5.0 vs Powerboost Engine

[BigJim]

Ok, Ill throw my .02 in. for those who call the 5.0 a 'dog' or underperforming. You are spoiled. Its not a bad thing, but you are. In 2006 the strongest engine in a 150 was 300 herspers. Thats it. Today trucks are stronger.(Your Powerboost is still a dog next to my 350, but that comparing Oranges and Tangerines, Similar but not quite the same). Ford has gone the way of the US military as far as half tons go. It has to compete with itself. The 5.3 GM or 5.7(now going extinct) Hemi are no competition for the venerable Coyote engine. Your PB benefits from a better factory tune and instant power from the electric motors. Great setup if its not your last truck. If it is your last truck, the 5.0 boasts some fantastic advantages that the PB just cannot offer. The 5.0 has 0 turbos to wear out. The 5.0 has a singular battery thats only 200 bucks to replace.(All batteries wear out, including the HVB batteries in all Hybrids and they are not cheap.) For the most part the 5.0 is a traditional engine which means when the time come will be cheaper to replace. Even with the 3.31 gears, I am not disappointed in the towing capabilities of my 150. Bikes, boats, even a dump trailer handles just fine. Not my powerstroke fine, but great for a half ton pickup. Throughout my history with 150s(only 6 or 7 of them from a base xl to a fully loaded 06) I have never had one that towed bad. They all did what they were meant to do right up to the max load. The 5.0 is no different. The PB is a fun truck to drive for sure, but its the hot one night stand you have fun with for a while. The 5.0 is the one you grow old and die with.

Love your analogy, but at my age that one night stand sounds better and better…….

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[SilverSpur]

Ordered my PB in April 2024 and took delivery in mid July. Started to read all I could on the forums about the F150 since it was my first. Of course, engine type came up repeatedly and I thought I made a mistake buying the Powerboost over the 5.0- the 5.0 fans ranted about it being ‘legendary’, of course better sound, better range with rpm’s, longer longevity, better highway mpgs, etc

A buddy of mine came to visit with a rental - a 2023 5.0 with 33K miles. He let me drive it and I could not believe how bad the engine performed vs the Powerboost. It was literally night and day. Just was wondering if any of the guys who espouse the 5.0 have ever driven the Powerboost?

As for the 5.0, I chose the 2.7 eco. Since I don't to much weight or often I got better mpg. The 2.7 has 325 hp and can put out 400 ft lbs of torque. The power boost cost much more and I couldn't see the added cost for what little I drive. 25,400 miles on 2021 F150.

 

[starcommtrey1]

Love your analogy, but at my age that one night stand sounds better and better…….

Hehehe....that funny.

 

[Samson16]

Your Powerboost is still a dog next to my 350, but that comparing Oranges and Tangerines, Similar but not quite the same)

GT350 or F350?
?

Keep the compliments rolling in boys!

 

[BMCGC]

"Turbos wearing out".

I gifted my sister my 2017 Fusion 2.0T. At 200k it has had one water pump, one master cylinder and one set of shocks/struts.

Not too shabby in my book.

 

[Samson16]

Love your analogy, but at my age that one night stand sounds better and better…….

I’m having a 31 year one night stand with this hot girl I married

 

[Polo08816]

"Turbos wearing out".

I gifted my sister my 2017 Fusion 2.0T. At 200k it has had one water pump, one master cylinder and one set of shocks/struts.

Not too shabby in my book.

I'm not sure about "wearing out", but turbos introduce additional complexity (ie. additional coolant plumbing and engine oil plumbing). Additionally, if turbos fail, it could cause catastrophic downstream failures such as taking out your engine.

All that is nearly impossible on a naturally aspirated engine because there are no turbos - this is coming from the perspective of someone who owns/DIYs 3 out of 4 vehicles that are turbocharged. Naturally, turbocharged engines have a more crowded engine bay so it's harder to get to stuff in a turbocharged vehicle.

 

[starcommtrey1]

GT350 or F350?
?

Keep the compliments rolling in boys!

Oh how I would love a GT350 with da voodoo engine.....but Ill settle for my 67 fastback with a Cleveland Cobra Jet!!!! And thats because I can say 67, Cleveland and Cobra Jet in the same sentence!!!!!!

 

[BMCGC]

I'm not sure about "wearing out", but turbos introduce additional complexity (ie. additional coolant plumbing and engine oil plumbing). Additionally, if turbos fail, it could cause catastrophic downstream failures such as taking out your engine.

All that is nearly impossible on a naturally aspirated engine because there are no turbos - this is coming from the perspective of someone who owns/DIYs 3 out of 4 vehicles that are turbocharged. Naturally, turbocharged engines have a more crowded engine bay so it's harder to get to stuff in a turbocharged vehicle.

I have owned N/A, turbo, super charged and hybrid vehicles. Zero issues other than normal wear items. The fear mongering on batteries and turbos are unfounded. I would be more concerned with picking a good dealer that will stand behind Fords warranty and their service department without giving you a hassle every time you need them.

One of my neighbors has a 2004 Prius that still charges to 95%, he added a 2020 Prius that is charging to 100%.

 

[Chili]

I'm not sure about "wearing out", but turbos introduce additional complexity (ie. additional coolant plumbing and engine oil plumbing). Additionally, if turbos fail, it could cause catastrophic downstream failures such as taking out your engine.

All that is nearly impossible on a naturally aspirated engine because there are no turbos - this is coming from the perspective of someone who owns/DIYs 3 out of 4 vehicles that are turbocharged. Naturally, turbocharged engines have a more crowded engine bay so it's harder to get to stuff in a turbocharged vehicle.

The argument keeps getting brought up, keep it simple! Yet the 5.0 reliability is in fact, worse.

I like the 5.0 but add 4wd and crew cab or supercab to it, especially with 3.31 gears... it's not going to give a lot of bottom end performance. 2wd regular cab with 3.73, probably a different story. Even the Mustang is known for being a bit soft down low and those weigh less and have more effective gear ratio.

 

[JExpedition07]

The argument keeps getting brought up, keep it simple! Yet the 5.0 reliability is in fact, worse.

I’m going to need a reputable source with data from Ford engineering on that. Not forum posts….I will wait.

 

[Boen]

Ok, Ill throw my .02 in. for those who call the 5.0 a 'dog' or underperforming. You are spoiled. Its not a bad thing, but you are. In 2006 the strongest engine in a 150 was 300 herspers. Thats it. Today trucks are stronger.(Your Powerboost is still a dog next to my 350, but that comparing Oranges and Tangerines, Similar but not quite the same). Ford has gone the way of the US military as far as half tons go. It has to compete with itself. The 5.3 GM or 5.7(now going extinct) Hemi are no competition for the venerable Coyote engine. Your PB benefits from a better factory tune and instant power from the electric motors. Great setup if its not your last truck. If it is your last truck, the 5.0 boasts some fantastic advantages that the PB just cannot offer. The 5.0 has 0 turbos to wear out. The 5.0 has a singular battery thats only 200 bucks to replace.(All batteries wear out, including the HVB batteries in all Hybrids and they are not cheap.) For the most part the 5.0 is a traditional engine which means when the time come will be cheaper to replace. Even with the 3.31 gears, I am not disappointed in the towing capabilities of my 150. Bikes, boats, even a dump trailer handles just fine. Not my powerstroke fine, but great for a half ton pickup. Throughout my history with 150s(only 6 or 7 of them from a base xl to a fully loaded 06) I have never had one that towed bad. They all did what they were meant to do right up to the max load. The 5.0 is no different. The PB is a fun truck to drive for sure, but its the hot one night stand you have fun with for a while. The 5.0 is the one you grow old and die with.

I have the 5.0 with the 3.73 and lov it ,

 

[Forumlurker24]

Realistically speaking the powerboost is better unless you plan on throwing a blower or some turbos to go fast.

Idk why people talk about reliability like 2 extra cylinders doesn't add complexity compared to a v6

 

[starcommtrey1]

Realistically speaking the powerboost is better unless you plan on throwing a blower or some turbos to go fast.

Idk why people talk about reliability like 2 extra cylinders doesn't add complexity compared to a v6

It doesnt. A V6 and a V8 NA are essentially the same in complexity and the big three have had them for a century. Pretty sure they got them down to an art. I cant believe someone would this a V8 is more complicated than a V6 although I would give you that on an I6 a B6 or a W6!

 

[missileboy]

" Idk why people talk about reliability like 2 extra cylinders doesn't add complexity compared to a v6 "

Because the smaller displacement motors are pushing that power via turbo's and the designs are a bit more complex, i.e. more things that can go wrong and as stated earlier turbo's do fail and it can be expensive. Stock 5.0 is naturally aspirated and as such, not as complex. It is a valid argument, not that a 5.0 can't have issues, they can, any motor can.

Personally, I'll take the 5.0 everyday of the week.

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