2.7 V6 vs. 3.5 V6 TT PowerBoost Hybrid

[SlammedZero]

That sounds about right. 800lbs makes a big difference in driving. Also, I think the extra weight primarily comes from the Lariat bells and whistles vs. STX. You can see that from the payload rating. I think the STX was like 17xx lbs, and my Lariat was just over 1500lbs.

Yes, the new 2024 Lariat actually surprised me with how many features it offered. I guess it "surprised" Ford as well, so they removed many of them from the 2025 model Lariat.

These include, but are not limited to, real leather seats (2025 got fake leather vegan seats), no electrically adjustable steering wheel, no lights around USB ports, no wired-in keypads, no wood trims, and they even removed some hard buttons on the 25s (that top row above the screen). I didn't know any of these until I bought my 24. Now I felt I was lucky doing it over a 25.

I got XL on both of my Mavericks, a hybrid and an AWD. Because I felt that's the best value. Even the $40k Lariat doesn't have 360 camera or seat ventilation (for 2024), and it has the base version of lane centering and ACC. But the XL actually offered a lot more features such as auto hold brake, and something you can activate with ForScan which made them extra value. But for F150, higher trim gives you a lot more. So guess I'm gonna make my butt a little happier living in the South.

You're making me happy I got a '24 as well. lol

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[JCsTruck]

Drive a 5.0 and you'll appreciate the torque of the 2.7 even more..

Read post #39.
https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...-ecoboost-or-wish-you-bought-5-0.21700/page-3

 

[ks54703]

Owned a 21 302a XLT PB / 7.2 KW 5.5'bed for a little over a year traded it off for a 22 302a XLT 2.7 EB payload package vehicle 5.5' Bed. 2.7 EB with a 6900# payload rating and 3.73 gearing which is the same as the 3.73 gearing in a PB evens the tables.

3 years into the 22 2.7 EB and still perfectly satisfied with my decision to DUMP the PB.

Live in central Wisconsin and late fall to lat spring a PB becomes a overweight 3.5 EB carrying around a heavy load with marginal help from electrification.

Low 20's YEAR ROUND for fuel mileage VS HUGH drop in cold weather for the PB. Basically it was the same in the cold as the 3.5EB 701 Platinum it replaced but way heavier to drive.

2.7 EB guy all the way.

 

[Lead Foot PowerBoost]

I think if you drive the PB in a suburban environment with stops every mile or so to recharge the battery you'll see a bigger mpg benefit. I'm getting 24 in my suburban commute, probably about 1/3rd is highway. I suspect it'd be more like 21 in the 2.7 based on the EPA ratings. I'll take the 10% bump along with the gobs of torque / effortless acceleration. Though I will say it does feel heavier than the Sierra 1500 5.3L I rented recently.

 

[CiTY HuNTeR]

You're making me happy I got a '24 as well. lol

Oh, and they changed the fog lights too. 25 lariat got the same 1 LED fog like XLT with the upgrade front facial. That wrap around DRL fog light only on KR and platinum now. Guess Ford trying to differentiate those lines even more

 

[CiTY HuNTeR]

Owned a 21 302a XLT PB / 7.2 KW 5.5'bed for a little over a year traded it off for a 22 302a XLT 2.7 EB payload package vehicle 5.5' Bed. 2.7 EB with a 6900# payload rating and 3.73 gearing which is the same as the 3.73 gearing in a PB evens the tables.

3 years into the 22 2.7 EB and still perfectly satisfied with my decision to DUMP the PB.

Live in central Wisconsin and late fall to lat spring a PB becomes a overweight 3.5 EB carrying around a heavy load with marginal help from electrification.

Low 20's YEAR ROUND for fuel mileage VS HUGH drop in cold weather for the PB. Basically it was the same in the cold as the 3.5EB 701 Platinum it replaced but way heavier to drive.

2.7 EB guy all the way.

Yes, EV system took most hit on efficiency when it gets cold, no matter if it's HEV or BEV. I too, would choose gas engine if I live in the north. Because as you said, HEV system makes no difference when it's cold from a regular EB. For heating, your engine will run continuously.

However, I live in the south. And we had about 9 months hot and hotter season, and 3 months of winter that temperature could vary from 40s to 80s. So for hot climate, EV system got its advantages.

Unlike heating, which is basically a byproduct of ICE engine. It's more efficient to run HVAC for cooling on electricity than using gas engine. You can have the unstopped cool air blowing when engine shuts down. Engine will only kick up for a few minutes when it need to charge the battery then shut again. This is huge for us living in the south. Also, batteries performed better in warm weather.

Another benefit of HEV is you do not have starter wear unlike the ICE version with start-stop. That's (one of) the most stupid feature pushed by EPA. It's why many people deactivate it in Forscan immediately. I did that on my gas Maverick as well. However, for HEV, the electric motor will run the vehicle first, then fired up the engine using the electric motor. This becomes a blessing in the hybrid.

 

[Eskram]

Read post #39.
https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...-ecoboost-or-wish-you-bought-5-0.21700/page-3

#40 is bester.

I still prefer the 2.7 over the 5.0 if forced to choose. Unless we're adding boost to the Coyote, then it wins.

 

[CiTY HuNTeR]

#40 is bester.

I still prefer the 2.7 over the 5.0 if forced to choose. Unless we're adding boost to the Coyote, then it wins.

Isn't that Raptor R?

 

[JCsTruck]

#40 is bester.

I still prefer the 2.7 over the 5.0 if forced to choose. Unless we're adding boost to the Coyote, then it wins.

Lol, #40 is bester and you are correct there .

I have driven the 2.7 briefly and honestly it felt just as powerful in normal driving but I know it gets better fuel mileage in those situations do it. I’m hoping I get the 2.7 in my next work truck soon so then I will be able to draw better comparisons. I think I would like that engine especially in 2WD form.

 

[JumboJVT]

Maybe because I'm not trying to be the most "terminology correct" person on the Internet? Most people get what I meant. This laminated acoustic glass is what's most luxury vehicles use, other than maybe the few 2 you've mentioned that most people probably would never buy.

I'm not getting into automotive industry so it doesn't matter of some terminology on some rare cases. Whatever it's called we're all defined by people, and terminology changes all the time. Ok, to make you happy, you are most correct person on the Internet. Happy?

No, we don't get what you mean. As Rush Limbaugh used to say "words mean things". Its fine not to know all the correct terminology. Its not fine to insist your right, when your not. And I'd suspect you'll find more people than you obviously think know the difference between laminated glass - enhanced acoustic layer or not - and dual pane. Buyer 2021 was willing to help educate you and others on this subject, and all he gets for the effort is grief. I on the other hand had decided to let you continue in your ignorance, which is exactly what not correcting your terminolgy amounts to.

 

[CiTY HuNTeR]

No, we don't get what you mean. As Rush Limbaugh used to say "words mean things". Its fine not to know all the correct terminology. Its not fine to insist your right, when your not. And I'd suspect you'll find more people than you obviously think know the difference between laminated glass - enhanced acoustic layer or not - and dual pane. Buyer 2021 was willing to help educate you and others on this subject, and all he gets for the effort is grief. I on the other hand had decided to let you continue in your ignorance, which is exactly what not correcting your terminolgy amounts to.

Bla bla, if you really don't care why you write this long of crap no one even read? LMAO. And it has nothing to do with my main post. It's less than 5% worth of what I wrote.

Some people, like you, just had to challenge everything people posted to show your existence. Can be easily told from your most recent posts. Every single one was questioning or challenging someone else. Troll elsewhere.

 

[Samson16]

Maybe because I'm not trying to be the most "terminology correct" person on the Internet? Most people get what I meant. This laminated acoustic glass is what's most luxury vehicles use, other than maybe the few 2 you've mentioned that most people probably would never buy.

I'm not getting into automotive industry so it doesn't matter of some terminology on some rare cases. Whatever it's called we're all defined by people, and terminology changes all the time. Ok, to make you happy, you are most correct person on the Internet. Happy?
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If you’re not trying to be correct, then why continually argue a point with someone who is?

We learned something about high end automotive acoustics

 

[jakearb]

I am currently driving a dealer courtesy 2025 STX RWD with 2.7, while my new 2024 Lariat PB is at service to fix that stupid fold-down shifter (won't come up after parked overnight). I've only had my Lariat for 1 week before I had to leave it at the dealer, so my experience with that is kinda limited. Mine had under 500 miles, but the courtesy vehicle only had just over 1k miles when I got it. So, despite they got different trim, drive train, etc., it's kinda Fuji to Honey Crisp comparison (i.e., apple to apple).

Acceleration: Definitely, the 2.7 is slower. Wife has a VW ID4 dual motor EV, and I drive that a lot. The PB, unlike my previous Mavericks, accelerates very close to the EV (some tested low 5s, while the EV is high 4s, 0-60mph). Of course, I haven't used the full potential of it, since it's still so new. But for the same regular acceleration, I need to step down more on the gas pedal with the 2.7.

Handling: 2.7 is better. Again, it's an STX, so it is less equipped and much lighter. Also, the RWD made it lighter, and the suspension is also closer to the ground. But you can feel the front and the whole truck is also lighter, having a lighter engine and no lithium batteries (only 1.5kwh, but still it's a big chunk). They do have the same-sized 20" wheels, the only difference is my Lariat is FX4, so it got AT tires and softer (maybe?) tuned suspension. I felt the 2.7 drives more like a smaller truck; sometimes I forgot I was driving a big 150, it felt almost like my Mavericks. Oh, and both of them are supercrew with short beds, so no variation there.

Fuel economy: Both are very new, so the number could probably be better once they exit the break-in period. On my way back from the dealer, 80 miles away, I drove about 20 miles on a country road (limit +10) and 60 miles on I-16 (75mph blue cruise). I got an average of 23 mpg with my PB. But once I got back and tested the generator function for a few hours, my displayed mpg dropped to around 16mpg. The 2.7, after driving for 2 weeks and 500 miles, gets me 18mpg (I reset trip 1 after getting it) for my daily commute to work, and weekend trips to my hunting club, if I ease a little bit on the gas pedal, and do not remote start to cool down cabin like I'd do with my PB.

Summary: The fuel economy and the engine's quietness, along with the handling of the lighter engine, make me think it could be a good choice for the cheaper trims. This STX was selling for just over 42k, and I got my Lariat PB for 58k. Saving about 16k is probably good money for many. And I felt I could happily drive this truck, just like how I enjoyed my 2 Mavericks. However, the extra feature on the Lariat, such as Blue cruise and seat ventilation, better material on interior and quieter cabin from laminated side windows, as well as extra power, extra 7.2kw capability, made me feel I'd be happier in my truck once it gets back.

I just got a '25 PB XL coming from a '23 2.7 XL. I drove the 23 for about 75K miles. Average mpg was about 23 or so, mostly highway. I'm seeing about the same on the PB so far. My XL was about 4,700 lbs dry, the PB is 5,600. These are both work trucks, so I'll take the extra power from the PB all day but if it was my own money I think i would stick with the 2.7. Still plenty there for most people unless you really need that towing capacity.

 

[JCsTruck]

I just got a '25 PB XL coming from a '23 2.7 XL. I drove the 23 for about 75K miles. Average mpg was about 23 or so, mostly highway. I'm seeing about the same on the PB so far. My XL was about 4,700 lbs dry, the PB is 5,600. These are both work trucks, so I'll take the extra power from the PB all day but if it was my own money I think i would stick with the 2.7. Still plenty there for most people unless you really need that towing capacity.

I thought the powerboost was only available on the XLT trim and up. I just checked now on Fords website to confirm this. How did you get an XL trim with Powerboost unless this is some kind of fleet option not available to the general public. .

 

[jakearb]

I thought the powerboost was only available on the XLT trim and up. I just checked now on Fords website to confirm this. How did you get an XL trim with Powerboost unless this is some kind of fleet option not available to the general public. .

You are correct, its a fleet only option. Package '104A'
Its still an XL trim, but its basically an XLT with what it adds. Center console, auto climate control, tinted glass, and fog lights. You can look on the 2025 order guide and see fleet only 104A options.
All of those things but I still have a manual key lol

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