PowerBoost 2.0 - We Need More Than Idiot Lights

[wyoming]

Okay so I got the network scanned, the PPOB PIDs are showing in the PID log in the DC/AC module now. This is all on the 2024 enhanced package PIDs on my 2024 PB.

But… now when I go to import the dashboard template, I can’t select it? It is now grayed out. Worked flawlessly 12 hours ago. Doesn’t matter if I save it in iCloud or in the files.

Must have had some strange glitch in my iCloud settings because it finally popped up under that import menu.

Works great on my 2024 using the 2024 enhanced package. Even PPOB popped right up after deleting the app and reinstalling (for some reason just doing a new network scan did not do the trick.)

Thanks @turbopilot !

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[turbopilot]

Must have had some strange glitch in my iCloud settings because it finally popped up under that import menu.

Works great on my 2024 using the 2024 enhanced package. Even PPOB popped right up after deleting the app and reinstalling (for some reason just doing a new network scan did not do the trick.)

Thanks @turbopilot !

Thanks. Be aware PPoB amp draw will show intermittent draw until it hits around 2 amps. Not an issue with OBDLink it seems to be a quirk of the PPoB Sync display as well. When pulling big loads like air conditioners the amp draw seems right.

Also suggest you get your 12 volt SOC above 85 or 90 percent. I always have a trickle charge on my PB 12 volt battery overnight. Between trickle charge and setting 5 or above on AC blower, I never see SOC less than 90%.

 

[wyoming]

Thanks. Be aware PPoB amp draw will show intermittent draw until it hits around 2 amps. Not an issue with OBDLink it seems to be a quirk of the PPoB Sync display as well. When pulling big loads like air conditioners the amp draw seems right.

Also suggest you get your 12 volt SOC above 85 or 90 percent. I always have a trickle charge on my PB 12 volt battery overnight. Between trickle charge and setting 5 or above on AC blower, I never see SOC less than 90%.

Thanks! I have a hard wired 5amp NoCo trickle that I use about once a week. I should bump up the SOC but was trying to get a better feel for how the system operates.

I’m not sure if it’s a 2024 software thing or something with my truck, but the fan 5 thing does not seem to change the amp push to the 12V system. It actually seems like the biggest factor on my charge rate is the outside air temp.

 

[GuinessDraft]

I finally had a chance to test this out today. Reinstalling the app was the fix for making the dashboards show up correctly. In fact, one telling difference when I did the *.stg import was this time it said "2 dashboards imported", and earlier I never received that message.

On top of that, it appears the 2024 For Enhanced PID's are working, at least to my uneducated eyes. I took a screenshot to show it measuring things while I was idling:

So I think this means the PIDs are working, correct? I can go figure things out if anyone thinks they are not working.

At least I have gotten this far - thank you to everyone who was helping!

First, I have not seen anyone confirm my .stg file will work on a 2024 PB. Maybe it will but nobody has confirmed it.

Since you have been messing with the app I suggest you delete the app then download it again to clear out anything previously entered.

Then go to the setting and set up your PB as a 2023 PB. PIDs in the .stg file were selected from the 2023 Ford Enhanced PID's.

Next download the 2023 Ford Enhanced PID's.

The goto "Settings", "Menu" and download the .stg overwriting everything when given the choice. You should be able to download the .stg file from "File System, iCloud or Dropbox". I have only used Dropbox so I know it works.

Good luck. Let us know if it works on your 2024 PB.

Most of us just drive pickup trucks we are not software engineers so you should be able to get it running.

 

[Hans Moleman]

Mine has a weird issue. Whenever I connect to my vehicle, the 12v and HV battery gauges will show 0 volts. I have to delete the gauges and re-add them to show voltage. Am I using the incorrect PIDs?

For the 12V battery I used: Ford Lincoln Mercury->BCM->Vehicle Battery Voltage

For the HV battery I used: Ford Lincoln Mercury->BECM->Hybrid Battery Pack Voltage

However the SoC gauges seems to work without re-adding them.

 

[ReverendQ]

Mine has a weird issue. Whenever I connect to my vehicle, the 12v and HV battery gauges will show 0 volts. I have to delete the gauges and re-add them to show voltage. Am I using the incorrect PIDs?

For the 12V battery I used: Ford Lincoln Mercury->BCM->Vehicle Battery Voltage

For the HV battery I used: Ford Lincoln Mercury->BECM->Hybrid Battery Pack Voltage

However the SoC gauges seems to work without re-adding them.

I would try the rescan PIDs with MX2 connected first. If still an issue and baring other advice from OBDLink Support, try starting from scratch.

 

[turbopilot]

I finally had a chance to test this out today. Reinstalling the app was the fix for making the dashboards show up correctly. In fact, one telling difference when I did the *.stg import was this time it said "2 dashboards imported", and earlier I never received that message.

On top of that, it appears the 2024 For Enhanced PID's are working, at least to my uneducated eyes. I took a screenshot to show it measuring things while I was idling:

So I think this means the PIDs are working, correct? I can go figure things out if anyone thinks they are not working.

At least I have gotten this far - thank you to everyone who was helping!

It appears all the gauges are working fine. In time as you watch them things will make sense.

 

[turbopilot]

Mine has a weird issue. Whenever I connect to my vehicle, the 12v and HV battery gauges will show 0 volts. I have to delete the gauges and re-add them to show voltage. Am I using the incorrect PIDs?

For the 12V battery I used: Ford Lincoln Mercury->BCM->Vehicle Battery Voltage

For the HV battery I used: Ford Lincoln Mercury->BECM->Hybrid Battery Pack Voltage

However the SoC gauges seems to work without re-adding them.

For 12 volt I used> Battery Energy Control Module> Control Module Voltage
For HV I used > Direct Current/Alternating Current Converter Module A > Hybrid Electric Vehicle (HEV) High Voltage Bus - Measured

 

[Hans Moleman]

I would try the rescan PIDs with MX2 connected first. If still an issue and baring other advice from OBDLink Support, try starting from scratch.

How do I rescan PIDs? I don’t see that option.

For 12 volt I used> Battery Energy Control Module> Control Module Voltage
For HV I used > Direct Current/Alternating Current Converter Module A > Hybrid Electric Vehicle (HEV) High Voltage Bus - Measured

Those PIDs work. Voltage readings show up right after connecting.

 

[Hans Moleman]

If the DC/DC Amp Out shows a current reading, does that mean the converter is charging the 12V battery?

This morning the 12V battery shows 81% SoC and the DC/DC Amp Out shows 20A.

 

[Snakebitten]

If the DC/DC Amp Out shows a current reading, does that mean the converter is charging the 12V battery?

This morning the 12V battery shows 81% SoC and the DC/DC Amp Out shows 20A.

Here's the way I have always understood the DC/DC converter PIDs: (image below)

Note: left/red is Low Voltage PIDs
Right/orange is HV PIDs

The HV input into the DC/DC converter is 1.7 amps of 277V current

While the low voltage output of the DC/DC converter is 29Amps of 14.4V current.

But with the Ford algorithm for Low Voltage SOC being 82%, there is only 3 amps of "charging current" being supplied to the AGM battery of batteries. ? (since those 2 batteries are not isolated from each other at the moment)

 

[Hans Moleman]

Here's the way I have always understood the DC/DC converter PIDs: (image below)

Note: left/red is Low Voltage PIDs
Right/orange is HV PIDs

The HV input into the DC/DC converter is 1.7 amps of 277V current

While the low voltage output of the DC/DC converter is 29Amps of 14.4V current.

But with the Ford algorithm for Low Voltage SOC being 82%, there is only 3 amps of "charging current" being supplied to the AGM battery of batteries. ? (since those 2 batteries are not isolated from each other at the moment)

Makes sense, thanks! I just got the OBLink MX+ so I’m still learning it.

 

[ReverendQ]

How do I rescan PIDs? I don’t see that option.



Those PIDs work. Voltage readings show up right after connecting.

See post #18

 

[turbopilot]

But with the Ford algorithm for Low Voltage SOC being 82%, there is only 3 amps of "charging current" being supplied to the AGM battery of batteries. ? (since those 2 batteries are not isolated from each other at the moment)

I have not heard this before though we have sure seen it in practice. So Ford only wants the AGM batteries to be topped at 80%? Every source I can find says that AGM batteries last longer if routinely maintained at 100% SOC between cycles. Why would Ford do this?

 

[Snakebitten]

I'm not sure that 3amps at 14.4V would indicate Ford isn't still intending to raise the SOC at that moment. But admittedly, it's not being aggressive about it, at that point.

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