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How much energy does it actually give back to the car? Can someone equate it to miles? Can the amount of braking be turned up or down besides changing the drive modes?

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The regenrative braking can if done properly easily bring the Hybrid cell from the low end of its operating range of 40% where the ICE would start to recharge it back to the peak 62-65% SOC. This equates to anywhere from .2-1.5 miles of EV mode depending on what conditions are present at the time for that charge cycle. The overall draw on the hybrid pack form HVAC and others, general speed of travel and if on a flat terrain or not all impact the total EV range for that charge cycle. As far as I know the selected drive mode makes no impact on regenerative braking. You hit the brakes and keep it within the regenerative zone with the EV coach monitor and you'll be fine.

Just let the truck to its thing and use light to moderate as well as early braking when in city driving to maximize MPG efficiency. There's no reason why you can't average 28-30+ mpg on surface streets in the PB. I do it all the time.
 

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As far as I know the selected drive mode makes no impact on regenerative braking. You hit the brakes and keep it within the regenerative zone with the EV coach monitor and you'll be fine.
My experience is a little different. I do get different regen braking responses based on mode. Eco seems the most aggressive. Slippery seems to be the least. Other modes somewhere in those ranges.....
 

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The regenrative braking can if done properly easily bring the Hybrid cell from the low end of its operating range of 40% where the ICE would start to recharge it back to the peak 62-65% SOC. This equates to anywhere from .2-1.5 miles of EV mode depending on what conditions are present at the time for that charge cycle. The overall draw on the hybrid pack form HVAC and others, general speed of travel and if on a flat terrain or not all impact the total EV range for that charge cycle. As far as I know the selected drive mode makes no impact on regenerative braking. You hit the brakes and keep it within the regenerative zone with the EV coach monitor and you'll be fine.

Just let the truck to its thing and use light to moderate as well as early braking when in city driving to maximize MPG efficiency. There's no reason why you can't average 28-30+ mpg on surface streets in the PB. I do it all the time.
The VERY BEST mileage I have EVER gotten with a '22 XLT 302A is under 23, on surface streets. I'm an old retired guy and drive like one...very slow to accelerate, loooong lead time to slow down, watch the behavior statistics like a hawk. 19-20 or so is much more usual. Again, that's around town.
Honestly, I am very skeptical of 28-30+ mpg.
 
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So far after two weeks, I am sitting at 20.9 mpgs. Coming from my diesel and 12 mpg, I’m super happy.
 

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My overall avg lifetime is 21.0 mpg currently with just over 20k miles driven. I’m capable of high 30’s and low teens depending on driving style and other factors.

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Notice how my mpg drops from 18.4 to 17.8 as I accelerate from 74mph to 102mph in 13 seconds. I eased my foot into it demonstrating the effortless nature of the PB in another thread but it shows the direct mpg hit driving style has trip to trip.

The bouncy nature is from my hand not the vehicle. I was concentrating on the road ahead lol.

 

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The VERY BEST mileage I have EVER gotten with a '22 XLT 302A is under 23, on surface streets. I'm an old retired guy and drive like one...very slow to accelerate, loooong lead time to slow down, watch the behavior statistics like a hawk. 19-20 or so is much more usual. Again, that's around town.
Honestly, I am very skeptical of 28-30+ mpg.

I employ a lot of hyper-mileage techniques to hit numbers like this. Staying below 45 mpg, regularly lifting off the gas to force it into EV mode more frequently, lightly pressing the brakes to switch into regen when exiting freeways, coasting in EV mode when approaching traffic lights that are red to try to conserve momentum and avoid having to come to a complete stop as much as possible.

This video really goes into a lot of detail about it. While a bit long there's a ton of info in it and he specifically uses the PB to demonstrate some of the principals.

 

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The VERY BEST mileage I have EVER gotten with a '22 XLT 302A is under 23, on surface streets. I'm an old retired guy and drive like one...very slow to accelerate, loooong lead time to slow down, watch the behavior statistics like a hawk. 19-20 or so is much more usual. Again, that's around town.
Honestly, I am very skeptical of 28-30+ mpg.
This was my average mileage yesterday, 27.1 mpg with a 70/30 mix of hwy/city driving. The only reason I was doing 60 in a 70 was that was the speed everyone was going. Hitting these MPG is attainable and can be done w/o pissing off other drivers in the process. Overall average for this tank is currently at 23.8 mpg.

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Nice. Yep, pretty easy to do with the bloated excuse for a truck we know and love ?

I think that oil pressure gauge is useless according to the gurus here. I choose boost pressure when filling out my gauges ?

This is a typical commute when I take it easy:

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This was my average mileage yesterday, 27.1 mpg with a 70/30 mix of hwy/city driving. The only reason I was doing 60 in a 70 was that was the speed everyone was going. Hitting these MPG is attainable and can be done w/o pissing off other drivers in the process. Overall average for this tank is currently at 23.8 mpg.

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That’s your average over 31.4 miles which is not far enough to be considered an accurate aberage. A 70/30 ratio of hey/city equates to around 21 miles Hwy and 10 city.
23.4 mpg over the course of a tank of gas is still very good.
 

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Nice. Yep, pretty easy to do with the bloated excuse for a truck we know and love ?

I think that oil pressure gauge is useless according to the gurus here. I choose boost pressure when filling out my gauges ?

This is a typical commute when I take it easy:

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Similar as with Porpoise Hawk, that’s an avg of 27.6 mpg which over a total distance of 24.8 miles means that “avg” was calculated over less than a gallon of gas.
 

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Similar as with Porpoise Hawk, that’s an avg of 27.6 mpg which over a total distance of 24.8 miles means that “avg” was calculated over less than a gallon of gas.
Oh sure. Very true. I only post individual trips to demonstrate what the vehicle is capable of.
There is a “Fuel Economy” stat our trucks maintain that is a rolling overall average which for me is over 20k miles now.

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I usually get 24-26
We do live in a rural area, most all roads are 55 or 60. So I drive 2-3 over the limit. Yeah I kind of drive like Opa……

**Forgot to state, I seem to get better mileage, especially in town, driving in normal va eco. I really don’t understand it because Eco is supposed to create a more efficient regenerative breaking. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?

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