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A before/after of the Unreal enabled (left is Unreal)
Richer deeper graphic rendering

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What I don’t understand is that if it’s better graphics, why isn’t it just the default? Why are there even 2 different renderers?
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What I don’t understand is that if it’s better graphics, why isn’t it just the default? Why are there even 2 different renderers?
Ford is very conservative with software changes, but very liberal with hardware changes. That’s how it’s been for about a decade now it seems
 

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What I don’t understand is that if it’s better graphics, why isn’t it just the default? Why are there even 2 different renderers?
I believe that the Unreal engine is the default on the Lightning & Mach E. It's possible development started on the ICE F-150 first and Unreal wasn't ready when the 21s we're released, but they were able to get it working for the EV platforms. Rather than have a big UI change after an update, it's easier to keep both rendering engines in the software and use a setting to switch between them based on model.
 

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I have nothing valuable to add except to say that this is all awesome. I’m getting ready to order a new F150 and honestly i was pretty worried I would end up hating all of the electronic presets.
Specifically, the “DO BEE DOO” Ford chime just for having your door open makes me feel kind of irate. Worst sound ever.

I come from a couple decades of doing this same kind of customization in Volkswagens, and wasn’t aware that it was possible in Fords. I suppose I am an anal retentive, OCD engineer, but it baffles me how most people never think to investigate making their vehicles work like they want them to, instead of just putting up with all the overbearing safety nannies.

So am I seeing correctly that anyone with the LED headlights can also set them to a smooth “anti-glare” system instead of the simple on/off auto high-beams? That’s incredible if so.
EDIT: no it looks like i am too poor and the LED reflectors cannot do this, only the LED projectors. Wish I could afford a lariat + options, but a 75,000 dollar truck is kind of ridiculous for me to even contemplate.

the cameras on at speed is also terrific.
 
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They stopped enabling it in Canada due what we believe was expected hardware shortages. That said everyone who has tried has been able to enable it.
Enabled last weekend have yet to be able to actually test it out though?
 

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The blue high beam indicator will only come on if you manually select high beams. In auto / glare free it does not illuminate. There are certain conditions where the action is more obvious. As @Thetoad30 said, a dark rural road with something lining the sides really highlights it. The high beams dim sections for traffic, you will notice the sides of the road are still well lit when the center sections dim.

To put it another way: from traffics perspective your high beams are off, from your perspective the high beams are only off in the area immediately around the other vehicle.
I have the Green A (glare free indicator) but I also have the blue high beam light come on too. I cannot quite tell if the glare free is operating as it is supposed to. It kinda seems like it, but then it also kinda seems like it's still just auto high beams.

I have a 501A that I swapped the projector headlamps into. I have no DTC's in the HCM (aside from auto level DTC's, but that is expected because I do not have ride height sensors yet) and there are no errors showing on the IPC when starting or running the truck
 
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Ryan got back to me and told me any of the 6 studs in the reverse L-shape would work fine. Even the ford wiring diagrams show a ground wire.
Also @JScaro I need to correct this post, it is a power wire, not a ground wire. Sorry for the confusion
 

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I have the Green A (glare free indicator) but I also have the blue high beam light come on too. I cannot quite tell if the glare free is operating as it is supposed to. It kinda seems like it, but then it also kinda seems like it's still just auto high beams.

I have a 501A that I swapped the projector headlamps into. I have no DTC's in the HCM (aside from auto level DTC's, but that is expected because I do not have ride height sensors yet) and there are no errors showing on the IPC when starting or running the truck
One of you setting must be off, also do you reset the APIM in FORScan after the changes?
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One of you setting must be off, also do you reset the APIM in FORScan after the changes?
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Well I drove it farther this time and I can definitely tell the high beam ramping is working and so is the glare free. I think I just didn’t have a large enough sample size before.

I think I may have misunderstood the previous post. When sitting still ONLY the green glare free indicator is on. The blue high beam indicator comes on only while driving at speed sufficient for the high beams to come on, the blue light shuts off when the glare free is working and comes back when the high beams are at full brightness again.

I was thinking that there was supposed to be no high beam indicator at all, ever. But now I think I just misunderstood.
 

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I have the Green A (glare free indicator) but I also have the blue high beam light come on too. I cannot quite tell if the glare free is operating as it is supposed to. It kinda seems like it, but then it also kinda seems like it's still just auto high beams.

I have a 501A that I swapped the projector headlamps into. I have no DTC's in the HCM (aside from auto level DTC's, but that is expected because I do not have ride height sensors yet) and there are no errors showing on the IPC when starting or running the truck
Just so I understand what you are seeing: you start the truck, headlamp switch is in auto, you have the green w/ A indicator. You do not touch the stalk and when the high beams activate automatically you see the blue indicator in addition to the green w/ A? Does that discribe your situation?

Did you have to install a HCM as part of your projector retrofit? If so, I think I know what’s going on.
 

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Well I drove it farther this time and I can definitely tell the high beam ramping is working and so is the glare free. I think I just didn’t have a large enough sample size before.

I think I may have misunderstood the previous post. When sitting still ONLY the green glare free indicator is on. The blue high beam indicator comes on only while driving at speed sufficient for the high beams to come on, the blue light shuts off when the glare free is working and comes back when the high beams are at full brightness again.

I was thinking that there was supposed to be no high beam indicator at all, ever. But now I think I just misunderstood.
Our posts crossed mid air. You answered most of my questions. Did you add the HCM as part of your retrofit?
 

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Well I drove it farther this time and I can definitely tell the high beam ramping is working and so is the glare free. I think I just didn’t have a large enough sample size before.

I think I may have misunderstood the previous post. When sitting still ONLY the green glare free indicator is on. The blue high beam indicator comes on only while driving at speed sufficient for the high beams to come on, the blue light shuts off when the glare free is working and comes back when the high beams are at full brightness again.

I was thinking that there was supposed to be no high beam indicator at all, ever. But now I think I just misunderstood.
Blue high beam doesn't come on anymore for me.
 

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Our posts crossed mid air. You answered most of my questions. Did you add the HCM as part of your retrofit?
Yes I did. Is there something wrong with it?
 

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If you can find yourself in just the right circumstances you can see something that your Antiglare headlights are doing that you have NEVER seen before.

I live down a 2.5 mile long dark rural road. No shoulder on the road, mildly deep drainage ditches on both sides, but it's the trees and forestry on both sides that are the tell tail for the amazing lighting.

So it's dark and I'm the only vehicle on the road, the LEDs are at full tilt and I am at 36-37mph. The asphalt is lit. The ditches on both sides are lit. And the tree line separating two property lines on the left side of the road are lit up say.... 50 yards to the left. If there's a similar tree line on the right, it would be equally lit. The whole scene is so much brighter and wide angle than any Ford truck I have ever had. It's a really good light pattern.

Suddenly an incoming car will turn onto the road at a considerable distance. I witness what appears as an automatic diminishing of forward lightning. What's actually obvious is that the light being cast down the straight asphalt road DID reduce the distance it was casting. Especially onto the oncoming vehicles side of the asphalt.
But! Look closely at a couple of things. Look at the tree line on the left side of the road! The light is still being cast just as far and just as high as it was when there was no car coming.
Look to the right side of the landscape. It's the same.

If you look carefully, you will see that everywhere except a pie slice is still being lit like the oncoming car isn't there. The point of the pie slice starts AT the left headlight, in this case. I'm sure it's also being participated in by the right headlight as well, but less obvious because it isn't "curtaining" as dramatically in this instance.

This road is very much the perfect environment to make what is happening obvious to the eye, once you notice that the headlights are still casting like a high beam to the LEFT of the oncoming vehicle. From then on you can't unsee it. :)

Having said all that, I'm sure this technology is in play everywhere I go, but it's far more subtle on most better lit roads. And all but unnoticeable on well lit roads. Ironically it's the driver in the oncoming vehicle that is noticing it the most, but to them it just seems like you are a courteous driver with no Glare in their eyes.
 

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Yes I did. Is there something wrong with it?
No not at all. Because you didn’t have a HCM OEM there are some slightly different settings in the IPC.

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