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Transmission re-learning? (Start fresh?)

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I really regret the nomenclature Ford (and others) give to the various drive modes. Especially the use of the word "Sport".
Scientifically speaking, it's nothing to do with driving the vehicle aggressively. Instead, it's simply a shifting strategy that is noticeably different than the near-lugging strategy labeled Normal or Eco or Slippery.

It all makes more sense to me when I imagine the truck being a standard transmission. Note that I have 2 vehicles that are standard transmission and so it's easy to relate. There is no Porsche or Miata shift strategy. I provide the strategy and it might be a spirited strategy that is legitimately Sport. But I might also just driving casually, yet I STILL would shift deeper into the rpm range than the EPA/CAFE influenced automatic transmission programming from modern oems.

I totally object to driving my Powerboost truck in the 3 overdrive ratios (8,9,10) at rpms below 1800. It's insane, to me, to subject the drivetrain, especially the transmission, to 1200 or 1400 rpms in overdrive for more than a few seconds. I instinctively lock out 8th and force the downshift to 7th if I'm just steady state cruising for any length of time. My daily commute has several miles of 45-55 mph cruising. It's exactly the speed that I think presents unnecessary strain on the components.
It would be SO easy to just use the Sport mode shift strategy. It's so much more representative of how I would shift the truck in manual. But I am not willing to forfeit the wonderful fuel economy of EV mode, which Ford, in their ridiculous decision to nix EV mode in Sport mode, prohibits.

I'd pay a Kings ransom to have EV mode enabled with Sport shift strategy! ?
I'd still drive at my normal old man pace most of the time, but never have to lock out overdrive on my daily driving.
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Click the wrench icon (service functions page) in Forscan and here is what shows up. The second procedure is stop use of transmission adaptive and the third is halt use of adaptive learning at least on my '22
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So I went to dinner last night and had a full truck. Was more focused on the conversations to and fro with family than thinking about the trucks shifting.
I'll pay attention this morning getting coffee.
 

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What's the difference between "stop use of transmission adaptive" and "halt transmission adaptive learning"?
 

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Just guessing, but one choice is to halt the transmission from populating the Adaptive Tables with values. (regardless of the current state of those tables?)

The other choice is stop using the values in the tables to influence/adjust shifting pressures/timing.
 

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Just guessing, but one choice is to halt the transmission from populating the Adaptive Tables with values. (regardless of the current state of those tables?)

The other choice is stop using the values in the tables to influence/adjust shifting pressures/timing.
Indeed; or to put it another way: "halt" is "pause", its companion is "resume". When halted, the current state of the tables is still used, but not updated. "Stop" results in the transmission operating without the tables (ignoring them). If you "stop" for a time and then want to use the tables again, I would start from scratch by then doing "clear" first followed by "resume".

its the "Reset" that I'm not sure about ?
 

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A few quick trips to dinner and coffee and noticing a difference. No more jerking or lunging between battery and ICE changes... Much much better.
 

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That's great news.
It's amazing how much software plays a role in the 10r80 shifting behavior.
 

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Does anyone know what Ford's adaptive learning actually is?

I'm assuming that there is a database table that is the default (as built) database. So a reset would default back to this table. Adaptive learning updates the default table or a separate table is used to collect whatever adaptive learning is.

I see there is a adaptive relearn driving sequence in the WSM but I feel that it's not that important to complete on a reset of values. When we all bought our trucks that procedure is not done so it just learns through normal driving. That makes sense to me and may only take longer than if we all would have driven the sequence.

I only know Dodge/Ram RFE adaptive learning and it appears that these newer 10R80 transmissions must do something different than I'm familiar with.

I'm half tempted to turn it off but I'd like to know what it does before I do. My assumption is it adjusts CVI and pressure values.
 
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So is it worth resetting then turning it off? Or just resetting it back every few months?
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