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Anyone have anything to say about the whack rear suspension? I can’t say that I have seen anything like it other than the front suspension on 70’s GM cars like a 2nd gen. F body. Were they going for rear wheel steering and then changed their minds?
The slot welded plates are something that you sometimes see on cabovers, busses and straight trucks that have had their wheelbases modified. The only problem with that is in certain climates; they will trap moisture and salt and rot out twice as fast.
I actually like the idea of the parallel/series scheme like on the original Chevy Volt. It makes sense for all those people who bitch about long highway trips and hybrids getting worse mileage. I always felt that for peak efficiency or even driving an EV long distances on the highway; something like the Wall Autowheel geared for highway speed and plugged into the tow hitch for propulsion would look goofy but work.
The real test will be whether warranty or parts supply is up to the task but unfortunately a lot of Chinese production operates on a bait and switch approach; where the early production is better but then once they find a market, the quality is dropped substantially. There’s a lot of Amazon and eBay off brand tools that take this approach and it sucks because it’s all a moving target.
I think a little competition is needed however and agree with some of the comments. The “I floored it in the parking lot.” and it was the slowest, or whatever was mentioned in the background is just ridiculous and is why instrumentation and telemetry has been in use since at least the 1960’s. What used to require a 40 pound reel to reel recorder and a bunch of custom electronics can now be accomplished with a cheap Bluetooth OBD dongle and your smartphone. It’s the 21st century, I don’t want to hear that nonsense.
The slot welded plates are something that you sometimes see on cabovers, busses and straight trucks that have had their wheelbases modified. The only problem with that is in certain climates; they will trap moisture and salt and rot out twice as fast.
I actually like the idea of the parallel/series scheme like on the original Chevy Volt. It makes sense for all those people who bitch about long highway trips and hybrids getting worse mileage. I always felt that for peak efficiency or even driving an EV long distances on the highway; something like the Wall Autowheel geared for highway speed and plugged into the tow hitch for propulsion would look goofy but work.
The real test will be whether warranty or parts supply is up to the task but unfortunately a lot of Chinese production operates on a bait and switch approach; where the early production is better but then once they find a market, the quality is dropped substantially. There’s a lot of Amazon and eBay off brand tools that take this approach and it sucks because it’s all a moving target.
I think a little competition is needed however and agree with some of the comments. The “I floored it in the parking lot.” and it was the slowest, or whatever was mentioned in the background is just ridiculous and is why instrumentation and telemetry has been in use since at least the 1960’s. What used to require a 40 pound reel to reel recorder and a bunch of custom electronics can now be accomplished with a cheap Bluetooth OBD dongle and your smartphone. It’s the 21st century, I don’t want to hear that nonsense.
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The truck is faster than the ranger raptor which is pretty potent both in stand alone and towing. The motor is geared via single speed, ratio not mentioned though I suspect a 1:1 ratio due to efficiency. They want to bring it to the US -- can be purchased in MX and some of them have already made it over the border. The gen 2 of this will likely be quite attractive. Uses the LFP blade battery (31kWh) and can operate in pure EV mode. The frame is e-coated so anywhere moisture can get in it's protected. Chinese are big on seeing any rust unlike ford. Even the seats are e coated unlike ford's rust-o-plenty bare stamped steel.
Looks like GVWR on this thing is just over 7700lbs w/ a payload of 1800lbs. Towing is only 5500lbs though.
Looks like GVWR on this thing is just over 7700lbs w/ a payload of 1800lbs. Towing is only 5500lbs though.
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You can keep it ... maybe in a few years or decades the Chinese can prove to me they are really building an honestly better mousetrap. But it is just a weird conglomeration of designs/ideas and available parts ... at the end of the day, yes it might be cheaper, yes it might be a good vehicle ... but NO I do not trust the Chinese in any way. BTW, in my corporate life I traveled to China frequently and can tell you that culturally they just want to copy and under sell you ... they don't care about their environment, the people, etc. just winning the business.
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The cell packing efficiency here is about as good as it comes. No end plates, no spacers, no busbar runs.
Uses 2 monolithic bricks, very simple in design and construction, no busbar mess to deal with. Cells are aluminum cased and then have a heat shrink applied to them. Configuration has no parallel cells, just 114 cells in series.
Contrast that to ford's approaching using ~4s100p pouch cells (varies by model and batt size) requiring hundreds of welds, foam spacers between cells, plastic cell holders, specialty end plates, long threaded rods holding them together, busbars between each cell group, specialty casing for each cell group, etc...
Uses 2 monolithic bricks, very simple in design and construction, no busbar mess to deal with. Cells are aluminum cased and then have a heat shrink applied to them. Configuration has no parallel cells, just 114 cells in series.
Contrast that to ford's approaching using ~4s100p pouch cells (varies by model and batt size) requiring hundreds of welds, foam spacers between cells, plastic cell holders, specialty end plates, long threaded rods holding them together, busbars between each cell group, specialty casing for each cell group, etc...
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