Is the Stillen power module legit?

[RocketFistMooga]

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[Eskram]

Haven't heard of it, but it seems similar to a Burger Motorsports JB4 - it's intercepting and modifying sensor data to 'trick' the ecu.

It's likely legit though - Stillen (at least in years past) has made good products.

 

[Buyer2021]

" Here's the icing on the cake - the TruControl by STILLEN Inline Power Module won't jeopardize your factory warranty! Simply remove the module before heading to the dealership for service, and your warranty remains fully intact." ​

In other words, lie by omission and your warranty remains fully intact.

Given that Stillen promotes that total lack of integrity, I wonder what lies by omission they've foisted on their customers?

No thanks, that's not the company ethic I care to do business with.

Integrity is doing the right thing even when no one is watching.​

 

[RocketFistMooga]

" Here's the icing on the cake - the TruControl by STILLEN Inline Power Module won't jeopardize your factory warranty! Simply remove the module before heading to the dealership for service, and your warranty remains fully intact." ​

In other words, lie by omission and your warranty remains fully intact.

Given that Stillen promotes that total lack of integrity, I wonder what lies by omission they've foisted on their customers?

No thanks, that's not the company ethic I care to do business with.

Integrity is doing the right thing even when no one is watching.​

I agree with you on this.

 

[powerboatr]

" Here's the icing on the cake - the TruControl by STILLEN Inline Power Module won't jeopardize your factory warranty! Simply remove the module before heading to the dealership for service, and your warranty remains fully intact." ​

In other words, lie by omission and your warranty remains fully intact.

Given that Stillen promotes that total lack of integrity, I wonder what lies by omission they've foisted on their customers?

No thanks, that's not the company ethic I care to do business with.

Integrity is doing the right thing even when no one is watching.​

That last line is what I used to tell my sailors that worked for me.
And commitment and involvement
Is like a plate of ham and eggs
The pig was committed, the chicken was involved.

 

[SonarChief]

That last line is what I used to tell my sailors that worked for me.
And commitment and involvement
Is like a plate of ham and eggs
The pig was committed, the chicken was involved.

I fully agree, yet at least Stillen is upfront with their “lies by omission “! Many posters have said they use other tunes such as Livernois, and in order to avoid any warranty issues, revert to as built during dealer service procedures.

 

[mxwrk]

I worked there many years ago in sales. Would never do that again…ever. Their products seemed quality though so who knows.

 

[Gros Ventre]

In all likelihood, the Ford Programming will detect and record that a mod was done to the engine, even if it is no longer present.

 

[Porpoise Hork]

In all likelihood, the Ford Programming will detect and record that a mod was done to the engine, even if it is no longer present.

These kind of performance mods act as a man-in-the middle device. They intercept the signals form the ecu and alters them to increase boost, adjust timing, fuel delivery, throttle response etc. under certain conditions such as full throttle. They then feed normal data back to the ecu essentially tricking it. As far as the ecu is concerned everything is operating within the OEM programming even when it's not. The ecu does not have extensive data logging capabilities, that falls to external devices to perform that task. All the ecu would do is log the DTC code if/when one occurs such as a misfire or bank too lean to name a couple, providing the mod device does not filter out that data as well.

 

[Gros Ventre]

I'd be surprised if Ford (or others) did not have the programming to detect and record an alteration of their system software and performance.

 

[Porpoise Hork]

The ECU's programming is encrypted. Ford dealership techs can tell if it's been re-flashed but not what it was flashed to. Nor can they tell if the re-flash was performed by a dealership or third party. Since this system does not overwrite the ECU code, it remains completely undetectable if removed prior to service.

Another thing to keep in mind is Ford is not going to spend the extra millions of dollars it would take to include the additional memory storage per vehicle ECU just to store data sets for anything more than DTC codes. If the ECU does not detect an error from any of the monitored sensors then nothing is stored only that the specified module is in closed loop / ready state. Even when a DTC is triggered and is a hard code only the code event is stored, not the actual conditional data that led to the DTC code in the first place. That's up to the techs with scan tools to diagnose in real time when actively working on the system after the fact.

 

[TheGoatman]

Given how complex these torque based modules are now, this concept still being a thing blows me away.

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