Ford OEM power running boards install a plug-n-play?

[HDHB]

Are the deployable running boards an option on the Tremor?

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[superfordman]

Are the deployable running boards an option on the Tremor?

No, would have to be added after the fact like mentioned here or aftermarket.

 

[HammaMan]

Are the deployable running boards an option on the Tremor?

If you have a 402 they're easier to add than with lower trims as you already have a DSM. You just need to populate the missing wires / add board connectors.

 

[FORDTEXAS]

i f*cking regret not getting the 502A when i ordered my truck.
doing this upgrade will cost me nearly half of the price had i opted for the 502A package ?‍ ?‍

 

[ReverendQ]

@superfordman , The F250 take-offs I acquired (ebay) did not come with the bolts for mounting the boards to the brackets/motors. I believe they are M6 but I am not sure of the length. I believe M6x25 or M6x27.5mm. Do you know what yours are/were?

Also, my MY23 302A has three motor/bracket bolts in each location of the frame, but the brackets/motors have four holes for them at each truck mounting location. Did you rig up anything for the fourth hole or just use the three as-is (maybe torquing the nuts a bit)? If the former, please advise your solution.

@Iceman2022 I ordered these Door Cap. Blanking Plug. | FordUS to use in place of the plugs currently in the floor. Did you do anything special for getting the wires through to the motors? I plan to use these and sort of fashion what Ford does as shown below but if you have a tip, advice, or better suggestion please share.

TIA

 

[FORDTEXAS]

@superfordman , The F250 take-offs I acquired (ebay) did not come with the bolts for mounting the boards to the brackets/motors. I believe they are M6 but I am not sure of the length. I believe M6x25 or M6x27.5mm. Do you know what yours are/were?

Also, my MY23 302A has three motor/bracket bolts in each location of the frame, but the brackets/motors have four holes for them at each truck mounting location. Did you rig up anything for the fourth hole or just use the three as-is (maybe torquing the nuts a bit)? If the former, please advise your solution.

@Iceman2022 I ordered these Door Cap. Blanking Plug. | FordUS to use in place of the plugs currently in the floor. Did you do anything special for getting the wires through to the motors? I plan to use these and sort of fashion what Ford does as shown below but if you have a tip, advice, or better suggestion please share.

TIA

you only use 3 of the 4 holes.

 

[Iceman2022]

the cab of my truck is covered in rubber sound deadener. I just cut a hole in the existing plug, stuck the harness through and put another piece of sound dedener over it.

Mine didn’t come with the nuts, I just used the ones off the original OEM sport steps. There were only 3 each.

 

[superfordman]

@superfordman , The F250 take-offs I acquired (ebay) did not come with the bolts for mounting the boards to the brackets/motors. I believe they are M6 but I am not sure of the length. I believe M6x25 or M6x27.5mm. Do you know what yours are/were?

Not sure on the size on those bolts, I've never had the boards off the brackets so will check if I can.
You only use three of the four holes, no issues doing it that way.

I actually just picked up a set of 15-20 F150 PRBs last weekend I had my eye on, so might be swapping those brackets over to my good boards and motors, but will see if I can get these working as it or not.

 

[Giosantana3]

Bring it to me in Dallas I’ll do it for you

I’ll be interested in doing the same, I’m in Dallas btw

 

[ReverendQ]

Looks great! Yes they do go a good amount lower and take some getting use to. Pretty much any power boards will work on any gen of truck, 2015+ of course, they all use the same connector and you may just need to reverse the motor wires like you found.

Hey @Iceman2022 @superfordman @Jesse-Infotainment @HammaMan, after installing cooled seats and being delayed by a wicked illness I just got around to installing the F250 PRB take-offs I got off eBay, but I need a bit of help and advice.

I tried using @superfordman spreadsheet as-is and sans kick-switch settings. When I run the DSM Self-Test in FDRS only the driver's side motor moved, see attached. Same for plugging in the passenger side motor into the driver's side harness, so it appears the motors are operable. I double checked continuity of the harness @HammaMan made for me. And the wiring of them into C311/315 appears consistent to the spreadsheet. Is it possible these settings are very different for the F50 bracket motors? i.e. are the 744-24-01 and 02 very different for the different hanging brackets?

Also, I do not see the options for PRB settings in my Sync Screen (APIM). Is it supposed to be under Features or Settings for the vehicle?

I believe I have the High Level DSM, see attached, please verify. It shows up in FDRS and FORScan. Do I need to PMI it or something else to get the truck to know it's there?

Any advice on how to go about troubleshooting this is appreciated.

Note, the DTCs shown below are for the seat motor sensors that I don' t have on my 302A BAP. The seats are working fine except for the driver's side seat fan is weak. If any of you have a way to suppress these DTC since I don't plan on changing seat motors, please advise.

 

[superfordman]

I tried using @superfordman spreadsheet as-is and sans kick-switch settings. When I run the DSM Self-Test in FDRS only the driver's side motor moved, see attached. Same for plugging in the passenger side motor into the driver's side harness, so it appears the motors are operable. I double checked continuity of the harness @HammaMan made for me. And the wiring of them into C311/315 appears consistent to the spreadsheet. Is it possible these settings are very different for the F50 bracket motors? i.e. are the 744-24-01 and 02 very different for the different hanging brackets?

Also, I do not see the options for PRB settings in my Sync Screen (APIM). Is it supposed to be under Features or Settings for the vehicle?

Did you swap the extend and retract wires? They are swapped between 21+ F150 boards and SD boards.

If the boards are moving you have the right DSM as without the right relays in the DSM board they wouldn't do anything.

Looks like there is a new option in the APIM I forgot to add maybe for newer trucks/software that wasn't there before. That will give you the PRB options under features.

7D0-09-02 xxxx xxx* xx--, enable Running Board Control Function (RBCF)

 

[ReverendQ]

Did you swap the extend and retract wires? They are swapped between 21+ F150 boards and SD boards.

If the boards are moving you have the right DSM as without the right relays in the DSM board they wouldn't do anything.

Looks like there is a new option in the APIM I forgot to add maybe for newer trucks/software that wasn't there before. That will give you the PRB options under features.

7D0-09-02 xxxx xxx* xx--, enable Running Board Control Function (RBCF)

Thanks @superfordman, Yep, enabled RBCF at 7D0-09-02 and controls for PRB now show-up in Features.

Yep, I figured I have a capable DSM by having the settings available in the DSM and the Left PRB moving but thought I'd ask; thanks for confirming.

I remembered threads between you and @Airborne_Ape about swapping STOW and DEPLOY so I suspected that may be an issue, but I assumed both motors should move even if the wrong direction if that was the case. Also, I hate depinning. So, before I swap pins 1 and 3 on both C3185 and C3186, I gotta ask, "In the following pictures is the 16-gauge yellow wire STOW or DEPLOY?"

I have wiring diagrams for F150 with totally different wire colors of course. I could not find a wiring diagram for the F250 motor side and hoping since you have them you may know. Did I say I hate de-pinning?

Thanks for your continued support.

 

[superfordman]

Thanks @superfordman, Yep, enabled RBCF at 7D0-09-02 and controls for PRB now show-up in Features.

Yep, I figured I have a capable DSM by having the settings available in the DSM and the Left PRB moving but thought I'd ask; thanks for confirming.

I remembered threads between you and @Airborne_Ape about swapping STOW and DEPLOY so I suspected that may be an issue, but I assumed both motors should move even if the wrong direction if that was the case. Also, I hate depinning. So, before I swap pins 1 and 3 on both C3185 and C3186, I gotta ask, "In the following pictures is the 16-gauge yellow wire STOW or DEPLOY?"

I have wiring diagrams for F150 with totally different wire colors of course. I could not find a wiring diagram for the F250 motor side and hoping since you have them you may know. Did I say I hate de-pinning?

Thanks for your continued support.

Good deal, easy fix there.

Capable DSM or not, you can still enable the PRB features, just nothing happens and no codes either. I tried this on my old non-PRB DSM when I was first trying to add them.

Below is the schematic for the SD PRBs and looks like the yellow wire, pin 3, is deploy. The schematic is mainly for the body side harness and back since the PRB motors is its own self contained unit.

If I remember right, when you do the DSM self test, it tests the drivers side then passengers side. But if the stow and deploy are swapped, it doesn't see the right feedback right off the gate on the driver side then stops the calibration.

That's exactly why I made my mid jumper connections 6-pin Deutsch connectors, I can almost depin those with my eyes closed anymore.

SD PRB

 

[ReverendQ]

Good deal, easy fix there.

Capable DSM or not, you can still enable the PRB features, just nothing happens and no codes either. I tried this on my old non-PRB DSM when I was first trying to add them.

Below is the schematic for the SD PRBs and looks like the yellow wire, pin 3, is deploy. The schematic is mainly for the body side harness and back since the PRB motors is its own self contained unit.

If I remember right, when you do the DSM self test, it tests the drivers side then passengers side. But if the stow and deploy are swapped, it doesn't see the right feedback right off the gate on the driver side then stops the calibration.

That's exactly why I made my mid jumper connections 6-pin Deutsch connectors, I can almost depin those with my eyes closed anymore.

SD PRB

Thanks @superfordman,

I did the STOW and DEPLOY swap and initially the self-test failed as shown before; it just stops after moving the driver's side motor about half. Not to be deterred I figure I would see if maybe the passenger side motor is seized up. I took the boards off and disconnected the rear brackets but still only the driver's side moved and only about half of what it should.

I then swapped the motor's sides and the passenger side now on the driver's side moved. I swapped them back and actually got them to "dance" as if calibrated during DSM Self-Test? See attached, both did this dance.

I mounted them back on the truck and they regressed back to the original behavior. I tried the swap again, no luck. I just cannot get the passenger side motor to be consistent. I suspect its operation is intermittent but mostly failing.

Any thoughts for troubleshooting or verifying indeed I have a bad motor bracket?
Could the DSM be at issue?
I kindof trust the harness as I did get both boards to do the "dance" a couple times, or could it be at issue.

TIA

 

[superfordman]

Thanks @superfordman,

I did the STOW and DEPLOY swap and initially the self-test failed as shown before; it just stops after moving the driver's side motor about half. Not to be deterred I figure I would see if maybe the passenger side motor is seized up. I took the boards off and disconnected the rear brackets but still only the driver's side moved and only about half of what it should.

I then swapped the motor's sides and the passenger side now on the driver's side moved. I swapped them back and actually got them to "dance" as if calibrated during DSM Self-Test? See attached, both did this dance.

I mounted them back on the truck and they regressed back to the original behavior. I tried the swap again, no luck. I just cannot get the passenger side motor to be consistent. I suspect its operation is intermittent but mostly failing.

Any thoughts for troubleshooting or verifying indeed I have a bad motor bracket?
Could the DSM be at issue?
I kindof trust the harness as I did get both boards to do the "dance" a couple times, or could it be at issue.

TIA

At you getting any kinds of codes now on the DSM for the PRBs?
When you had it sitting like you did in the cab, did opening and closing the door make it act like it should?
Hard to say what you have going on at this point. Too many different variables at play.

What are your values for the following addresses?

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