First tow and my auto leveling lights were blinding

[vidwiz]

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[vidwiz]

I have had my truck into 2 dealers now, they have done all sorts of things but have been unable to rectify the problem. A quick check on recalls now shows this new development however:


Reprogram light emitting diode led and headlamp control modules hcm Recall Incomplete, remedy not yet available

Campaign/NHTSA#
23C36/AWAITING#
Issue Date
2023-11-28
Description

Safety Risk

Remedy

Next Steps
Contact your local dealer and schedule a maintenance appointment. To find your local dealer, use the "find a dealer" feature below.

I'm going to piss on Ford now so tune out if you're not into that. I've been waiting over a year for a fix. The whole reason I went with a truck was to pull travel trailer. But it's too limiting to do the extensive trips I had anticipated unable to tow at night safely because of this. I risk a traffic ticket, road rage, and accidents. My trailer sits unused depreciating, the truck was losing a grand per month in value last time I checked. So I'm bailing, going to get out now, but it's going to cost me 10's of thousands and countless hours of research and consternation. FUF.

 

[fordtruckman2003]

I have had my truck into 2 dealers now, they have done all sorts of things but have been unable to rectify the problem. A quick check on recalls now shows this new development however:


Reprogram light emitting diode led and headlamp control modules hcm Recall Incomplete, remedy not yet available

Campaign/NHTSA#
23C36/AWAITING#
Issue Date
2023-11-28
Description

Safety Risk

Remedy

Next Steps
Contact your local dealer and schedule a maintenance appointment. To find your local dealer, use the "find a dealer" feature below.

I'm going to piss on Ford now so tune out if you're not into that. I've been waiting over a year for a fix. The whole reason I went with a truck was to pull travel trailer. But it's too limiting to do the extensive trips I had anticipated unable to tow at night safely because of this. I risk a traffic ticket, road rage, and accidents. My trailer sits unused depreciating, the truck was losing a grand per month in value last time I checked. So I'm bailing, going to get out now, but it's going to cost me 10's of thousands and countless hours of research and consternation. FUF.

Where did you find that information?

 

[vidwiz]

https://www.ford.com/support/recalls/

 

[fordtruckman2003]

Interesting, doesn't show up for my VIN but does show up for yours.

I have noticed mine stopped doing the startup "dance" but haven't looked into it further yet.

 

[J17GT]

I still have not gone back to Ford for my blinding lights while towing. I won‘t tow my setup until spring next year, but hopefully will get the truck in over the holidays.

I do not have that recall mentioned above under my VIN# either. Although I do have this new tailgate step handle customer service action listed now that I’ll have to look into.

 

[BAP84]

It would be interesting to know how widespread this issue is. No recall showing for mine either at this point. I feel it would be odd if it were just a few trucks here and there and it’s probably more likely to be a large percentage of the fleet equipped like those of us talking about it here, but a small percentage of people are actually noticing the issue and those that are seem to be having mixed luck getting a service center to believe or understand the actual issue and from there I’m guessing it’s even a smaller percentage of service centers willing to escalate the issue with Ford. Really unfortunate as an issue such as this really makes these trucks less than ideal and arguably unsafe to drive at night with your favorite sack lunch in the bed of the thing…

 

[uk_brewer]

I see this recall in the ford pass app for my truck.

 

[vidwiz]

Sold my truck because of this. FUF. Good luck to those of you hanging in there.

 

[J17GT]

Sold my truck because of this. FUF. Good luck to those of you hanging in there.

Bummer. A simple phillips screwdriver to manually adjust the lights down is a temp fix. But totally understand one should not have to do that on a truck that costs this much. Best of luck with whatever you get next. I don't tow this time of year, so haven't revisited it yet.

 

[DK4]

Bumping. My 2022 has this problem.

Luckily I have airbags that I can pump up to solve the problem but I don’t always like to run them up as high as when I’m not towing.

My truck does have the headlight recall, but I haven’t done it yet. I thought that was only for the flickering DRL’s which I don’t have.

Has there been anyone with this problem where recall 23C36/23V802 fixed it?

 

[J17GT]

Back from the dead! This continues to be an issue for me, but I have not gone back to Ford again. I have recently gotten into FORscan and looked at my as built data of the Headlamp Control Module (HCM) and noticed something interesting. Mine looks different than what I see posted by others.

For reference, my truck is a Lariat 502a with CCD.

Here is my as built data, the line in question is 734-01-01:

The FORscan spreadsheet provides this for line 734-01-01:

Pay attention to 734-01-01 ***-0201-***

If the FORscan sheet is correct, that shows my Dynamic Headlamp Leveling is set to "CAN Input" with High Beam Ramping set to "available"

Now look at what another member posted in this thread here for another 502a Lariat:
LINK TO POST HCM AS BUILT 502A

Notice that 734-01-01 reads ***-0102-*** which I guess references "Analog Input" and high beam ramping set to "not allowed" The question here is, not sure if that 502a truck referenced as CCD or not.

In that same thread referenced in the above link, there is one person with a Limited truck that chimed in. My understanding is all Limited trucks have CCD:

Their line reads 734-01-01 ***-0202-*** which according to the FORscan sheet means it set to "CAN INPUT" like mine, but High Beam Ramping "not allowed".

So what is the deal here? Does having CCD set the headlamp leveling on with "CAN INPUT" like my truck and the Limited truck show? The non-CCD truck have "analog input"? However, whatever Highbeam ramping my truck is set to "available" and the other trucks referenced are not allowed.

Anyone care to post their AS-BUILT HCM info on a 502a or higher trim truck to compare? With CCD or maybe without? Maybe my truck is set correctly, but thought it was worth asking about.

 

[J17GT]

Ignore all of what I just posted. I answered my own question digging a bit deeper. Appears CCD sends the height info over the CAN bus. So yeah, my truck is set correctly I guess, but still junk since it doesn't work!

Great post in this thread here: https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/installing-onboard-scale.7003/post-311751

 

[HammaMan]

Back from the dead! This continues to be an issue for me, but I have not gone back to Ford again. I have recently gotten into FORscan and looked at my as built data of the Headlamp Control Module (HCM) and noticed something interesting. Mine looks different than what I see posted by others.

For reference, my truck is a Lariat 502a with CCD.

Here is my as built data, the line in question is 734-01-01:

The FORscan spreadsheet provides this for line 734-01-01:

Pay attention to 734-01-01 ***-0201-***

If the FORscan sheet is correct, that shows my Dynamic Headlamp Leveling is set to "CAN Input" with High Beam Ramping set to "available"

Now look at what another member posted in this thread here for another 502a Lariat:
LINK TO POST HCM AS BUILT 502A

Notice that 734-01-01 reads ***-0102-*** which I guess references "Analog Input" and high beam ramping set to "not allowed" The question here is, not sure if that 502a truck referenced as CCD or not.

In that same thread referenced in the above link, there is one person with a Limited truck that chimed in. My understanding is all Limited trucks have CCD:

Their line reads 734-01-01 ***-0202-*** which according to the FORscan sheet means it set to "CAN INPUT" like mine, but High Beam Ramping "not allowed".

So what is the deal here? Does having CCD set the headlamp leveling on with "CAN INPUT" like my truck and the Limited truck show? The non-CCD truck have "analog input"? However, whatever Highbeam ramping my truck is set to "available" and the other trucks referenced are not allowed.

Anyone care to post their AS-BUILT HCM info on a 502a or higher trim truck to compare? With CCD or maybe without? Maybe my truck is set correctly, but thought it was worth asking about.

Didn't read your text wall, read you have CCD and read your raw values, they are correct. Try higher rear air pressures. Since you have CCD, you cannot override the height sensors like I did with a knob. I have a knob near my knee that allows me to turn the headlights up and down.

 

[J17GT]

Didn't read your text wall, read you have CCD and read your raw values, they are correct. Try higher rear air pressures. Since you have CCD, you cannot override the height sensors like I did with a knob. I have a knob near my knee that allows me to turn the headlights up and down.

Don't blame you for ignoring the wall of text. I ended up answer my own question (just posted above your reply).

I already have the rear tires at max pressure and use a weight distribution hitch for my enclosed car trailer. The truck is almost level, just a bit down on the rear. These lights are just so damn bright!(love them otherwise)

I'm stuck adjusting them with a screwdriver! Knob sounds nice!

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