Finalizing tire purchase

[Truckstuff]

Ok. I’m stuck between these two options


275/60/20
Nitto recon grappler E range

BFg K02 D range


I’d prefer the D range but the BFg tend to run a little smaller, weigh the same as the nitto E range, and are more expensive. We’ve owned both G2 and Ko2 in the past and have been happy with both.

nitto offers an XL in this size but I’m not super comfy towing with a 4 ply.


Thoughts to sway one way or the other?

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[12Lariat21]

That's a real toss up there...I think your pretty much looking at usage

Off road, mud you probably want Nitto.

On road, rain, snow, you probably want BFG

You really can't wrong with either, as these are very similar performing tires. Just the Nitto is slightly better off road, where the BFG is slightly better on road. If you are only considering the Nitto for the E load range, just bump your BFG up to a 275/65R20, that size is an E.

 

[dolsen]

Ok. I’m stuck between these two options


275/60/20
Nitto recon grappler E range

BFg K02 D range


I’d prefer the D range but the BFg tend to run a little smaller, weigh the same as the nitto E range, and are more expensive. We’ve owned both G2 and Ko2 in the past and have been happy with both.

nitto offers an XL in this size but I’m not super comfy towing with a 4 ply.


Thoughts to sway one way or the other?

The truck was designed to tow with 4 ply tires, I am not sure why you feel less comfortable than towing with 8 or 10 ply tires unless you're exceeding towing capacity/payload

 

[Graygoose2021]

Im a Nitto guy myself, always had good luck.

 

[Truckstuff]

I was thinking the opposite. BFg were better off road and the recon grapplers were prob better on road. I’d love to feel good with the xl rating. But even talking to discount tire they’re saying that 4 ply isn’t ideal. Trust me I’d prefer the lighter weight.

 

[dolsen]

I was thinking the opposite. BFg were better off road and the recon grapplers were prob better on road. I’d love to feel good with the xl rating. But even talking to discount tire they’re saying that 4 ply isn’t ideal. Trust me I’d prefer the lighter weight.

Don't get me wrong, I never fault people for doing/buying what they want, because at the end of the day, it is preference, BUT I wouldn't necessarily say you NEED 8-10 ply tires either. I sold tires for a living for a few years, at a place very similar to discount tire.

I know there are a lot of things that people shit on Ford about, but at the end of the day, they invested billions into developing these trucks and if they thought towing with 4 ply tires was unsafe, they would put more robust tires on.

Just a thought, it's your truck and your money and I'll support you spending that money however you choose.

 

[Truckstuff]

I appreciate the response. Help me understand these figures please
Tires are 2756 max
Front gawr is 3900
Rear gawr is 4150
Gvwr is 7350
Max tow is 12,300

how do I calculate where things should be

 

[Snakebitten]

I suspect "towing" means RV?

I don't think towing requires D or E for safety.
But towing an RV with a 100% oem F150 compared to one with "towing enhanced" upgrades can be a world of difference from the pilots seat.

Stiffer sidewalls isn't necessarily a subtle improvement.
Neither is a rear Antisway bar
And improved shocks

They all work together as an ensemble in additional stability over road irregularities and crosswinds and such.

 

[Truckstuff]

agreed. Fords much smarter than I am. I’ve just never had 4 plys on any truck. Just stuck with c or d. First time having 20s and even seeing sl and xl. I guess it’s a different set up

 

[wessermgm]

I suggest you look at the Toyo Open Country AT3, which is an E load at 275, 65 r 20 and only weighs 54 lbs. Best of both worlds. Max load 3750/3415 lbs

 

[12Lariat21]

I appreciate the response. Help me understand these figures please
Tires are 2756 max
Front gawr is 3900
Rear gawr is 4150
Gvwr is 7350
Max tow is 12,300

how do I calculate where things should be

Those figures are the upper limit of weight for each item. those tires are rated for up to 2,756lbs of load on the tire at the max tire pressure.
The truck GAWR and GVWR are the limits of the axles, so with proper loading you'll never max out a tire.
(4150 / 2 = 2,075 lbs per tire when evenly distributed) so you have almost 700lbs of margin for those tires.

You can't calculate it. You have to measure it with scales, if you want to know where you are at.
With the truck and trailer loaded and full of fuel you would get a weight at front axle, rear axle, trailer axle, and then you could do some math to figure out all the numbers you'll need. The only other number that is helpful to have is your tongue weight.

Otherwise you just compare you GVWR from the truck and trailer, and provided you aren't overloading or miss loading either of them, you should be in the ball park. Figure 10-15% of trailer GVWR on the tongue, for figuring out your trailer tongue payload effect on the truck.

Truck Payload - 13% of trailer GVWR = about how much people and cargo you can add to the truck (IF the trailer is maxed out).

 

[Truckstuff]

I sincerely appreciate all the helpful comments here. Part of me feels like I’m overthinking it, but I’m torn.
it’s either recon grappler XL or E.
the BFg is a great tire in D but ia slightly heavier than the nitto E. So I’m crossing it off the list.
From researching it seems like most are going wirh load range E

I really wish nitto had some D options available in this size. I’ve been a huge fan of our past nittos.

 

[Calson]

A big difference is the tire pressure needed. I had Nitto Grappler on my 2500 truck and they needed to be at 80 PSI. Impossible to get 80 PSI at the gas stations so I ended up buying a Viair air compressor.

The Nitto tires wore well and were quiet on the pavement at freeway speeds. They worked well on snow, dirt, gravel, and pavement. I never used them on sand. In general the tires that work best on mud are the worst in snow or sand where it is better to float on the surface and not dig down. I have seldom had a problem with avoiding mud and with deep mud a winch can be the best solution.

 

[Ranger621]

I know a lot of people don't like Goodyear tires but I put WRANGLER ULTRATERRAIN AT 275/70-18 125Q E1 from Discount Tire on my 2022 Lariat FX4 with heavy tow package and they are great for my needs. I tow a 22 foot boat and are totally please wit these tires. I did some off road driving in Northern Michigan, sand, gravel and mud and I thought they did really well in all situations. I'm not a rock crawler so they probably are any good there but I'm pretty happy with them. Road noise is also very minimal for a more aggressive tread.

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