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This guy recently hauled this load with the 3.5 EcoBoost and now the 5.0L V8. The key takeaways for the 5.0 were significantly better fuel economy than the 3.5 EcoBoost, but using more revs and downshifting to maintain the speed on the hills. His findings were similar to mine, this V8 is very efficient when put under load and it has a lot of power. All in all agree with his video.

On his wide open throttle pull with the load behind it both engines hit the speed in about the same time, no surprise since both are 400 horsepower when opened up. His summary at the end he states the 5.0 actually won him over and he changed his mind on the engine he’d choose. Good overall review.
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I definitely like my 5.0. I drove 2 2023's of the same XLT's. One with the 5.0 and one with the Ecoboost 3.5.

First one, 5.0. Felt good, lots of power.

Second one, Ecoboost. Lets just say, I knew I was driving a V6, punch it, though, and that motor gets up and moves! I really didn't want a turbo charged engine though.

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This guy recently hauled this load with the 3.5 EcoBoost and now the 5.0L V8. The key takeaways for the 5.0 were significantly better fuel economy than the 3.5 EcoBoost, but using more revs and downshifting to maintain the speed on the hills. His findings were similar to mine, this V8 is very efficient when put under load and it has a lot of power. All in all agree with his video.

On his wide open throttle pull with the load behind it both engines hit the speed in about the same time, no surprise since both are 400 horsepower when opened up. His summary at the end he states the 5.0 actually won him over and he changed his mind on the engine he’d choose. Good overall review.
More revs for the 5.0 is not really relevant to towing. The Coyote is designed as such. It loves the RPM. By design. Towing really does not have anything to do with it.
 

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The only big problem with naturally aspirated engines is when you’re at higher elevations. Then the turbos always win; otherwise, it’s just more shit to break.
 

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The only big problem with naturally aspirated engines is when you’re at higher elevations. Then the turbos always win; otherwise, it’s just more shit to break.
Yeah, TFL loves doing tests with the Ecoboost up in those higher elevations on I-70 in Colorado. What's that? About 11,000 feet?
 

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This guy recently hauled this load with the 3.5 EcoBoost and now the 5.0L V8. The key takeaways for the 5.0 were significantly better fuel economy than the 3.5 EcoBoost, but using more revs and downshifting to maintain the speed on the hills. His findings were similar to mine, this V8 is very efficient when put under load and it has a lot of power. All in all agree with his video.

On his wide open throttle pull with the load behind it both engines hit the speed in about the same time, no surprise since both are 400 horsepower when opened up. His summary at the end he states the 5.0 actually won him over and he changed his mind on the engine he’d choose. Good overall review.
I wonder how the power boost compares to the 5.0 towing that load. I'm thinking it would be most similar to the 3.5. But the hybrid system could help or maybe the extra weight could hurt. I'll have to check this guys channel and see.
 

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Yeah, TFL loves doing tests with the Ecoboost up in those higher elevations on I-70 in Colorado. What's that? About 11,000 feet?
With 3% power loss per 1,000’ of elevation; that’s a big hit to performance.

Despite not being a fan of turbos, if I lived in Mexico City, Johannesburg, Albuquerque, Denver or Flagstaff; I would probably consider it a must have.

What are some good twin turbo Coyote kits?
 

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I definitely like my 5.0. I drove 2 2023's of the same XLT's. One with the 5.0 and one with the Ecoboost 3.5.

First one, 5.0. Felt good, lots of power.

Second one, Ecoboost. Lets just say, I knew I was driving a V6, punch it, though, and that motor gets up and moves! I really didn't want a turbo charged engine though.

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Beautiful truck!
 

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Ok James, I'm going to watch this video.

First thing, he should measure squat from the center of the wheel hub to the fender. He's measuring from the ground which includes the tire make and model and the psi.

He knows the camera is on right?

Second, he immediately notices the lack of low end torque. Continuing to watch.

The 5.0 goes to 7000rpm and still can't keep up with the 3.5TT.

I'm just messing with you. The 5.0 is a wonderful engine and there's something about a naturally aspirated quick revving V8 that goes beyond numbers on a sheet of paper. That being said the Coyote's numbers are impressive to say the least.
 
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More revs for the 5.0 is not really relevant to towing. The Coyote is designed as such. It loves the RPM. By design. Towing really does not have anything to do with it.
Oh I know the 5.0 is made to rev and can do it all day long, I mean everything in the bottom end of todays F-150 5.0 is out of the BOSS 302 engine that could spin up to 8,000 rpm.

But if you are towing a big camper at the upper limit of the half ton through mountains I think there is something to be said for the relaxed experience of the 3.5 EcoBoost with the low revs and added boost.
 
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Ok James, I'm going to watch this video.

First thing, he should measure squat from the center of the wheel hub to the fender. He's measuring from the ground which includes the tire make and model and the psi.

He knows the camera is on right?

Second, he immediately notices the lack of low end torque. Continuing to watch.

The 5.0 goes to 7000rpm and still can't keep up with the 3.5TT.

I'm just messing with you. The 5.0 is a wonderful engine and there's something about a naturally aspirated quick revving V8 that goes beyond numbers on a sheet of paper. That being said the Coyote's numbers are impressive to say the least.
Haha, I thought it was an impressive showing on the wide open run. The motors were neck and neck with that load throttle mashed, but again that’s more a test of top end horsepower not so much grunt. What’s interesting is the 5.0 is 400 horsepower @6,000 rpm, so I am still unsure of why Ford lets it roll out to 7,000 rpm on the 2021+. My best guess is shift recovery, it likely better keeps it in the power band under wide open throttle shifts. I noticed the pre 14th gen F-150s can’t rev that high unless tuned where we get those revs out of the box.

Either way you can’t go wrong as long as it’s a Ford ;)
 
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Either way you can’t go wrong as long as it’s a Ford ;)
That's what we're all hoping for no matter the drivetrain choice 'cause we've sure put some money on it ?
 

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I like the rumblings of the 5.0L matted to a Mustang. I'm getting older and really appreciate the quiet sleeper 3.5L under my hood though. I really like the low end torque for towing with the whistling turbos as opposed to the loud 5.0L.

Anyhow, I like the comparison this guy did. I'm glad we all have the option to pick what engine best suites our needs.

I'm really looking forward to getting an F-350 crew cab; although, I'm torn between the 7.3L and the 6.7L. I know a guy with a '22 with the 6.7L and he can literally smoke both tires if he punches it. To me, that's just a crazy amount of power.

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My first F150 was a '13 or '14 Lariat scsb with the Coyote. Wonderful motor but back then it had a 6 speed and when towing our 7k pound camper I wished it had a 3-1/2 and a 4-1/2 gear. It would hold 60mph in 5th at about 3500 unless you went uphill at all. Then it would slowly lose speed until about 55 and then drop down to 4th and run at about 4k+ rpm working it's way back up to 60 when it went back into 5th gear. 4000 rpm sounds fantastic until you listen to it for a few hours at which point its simply loud. I often ran it as a manual and picked speeds it like to go. With the 10 speed I imagine it being much less intrusive.
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