'21 vs '22 --5.0 vs 3.5

[JExpedition07]

I don't, but my oil filter housing might need one!!

Considering there are a total of ~zero~ posts regarding that issue that I can find on any forum I think you are fine. My 2023 is dry as a bone. Do you want me to forward you the entire TSB list for this gen? Boy your head will spin . The likelihood you experience any of those issues is very slim. TSB’s are put out so dealer techs know how to address issues should they arise. It saves on diagnostic/wasted and non billable time, it doesn’t mean the sky is falling.

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[gregs150xlt]

Considering there are a total of ~zero~ posts regarding that issue that I can find on any forum I think you are fine. My 2023 is dry as a bone. Do you want me to forward you the entire TSB list for this gen? Boy your head will spin . The likelihood you experience any of those issues is very slim. TSB’s are put out so dealer techs know how to address issues should they arise. It saves on diagnostic/wasted and non billable time, it doesn’t mean the sky is falling.

I have the TSB list, but thanks for offering.. I might have been the one who posted the TSB about the oil porosity issue.

JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED it (which obviously you did) . . . . . Looks like more than -ZERO- posts.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...ne-block-tsb-23-2194.18297/page-3#post-358012

Posts on it on f150forums as well.

 

[JExpedition07]

I have the TSB list, but thanks for offering.. I might have been the one who posted the TSB about the oil porosity issue.

JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED it (which obviously you did) . . . . . Looks like more than -ZERO- posts.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...ne-block-tsb-23-2194.18297/page-3#post-358012

Posts on it on f150forums as well.

You linked to your own thread of the TSB in which everyone states “nope mine is dry”. What a troll lol.

Wait till you see the recent TSB’s for the 2022-2023 2.7 EcoBoost cylinder head knock and thumping. I don’t see many 2.7 owners with that issue either. SSM 51665 & 51542

I also see a 3.5 EcoBoost/PowerBoost coolant consumption TSB for 2023 models SSM 51485

Oh no! Everyone trade in for a 3.3 NA, it’s the only engine with no TSB!!!

 

[gregs150xlt]

First, I didn't create the thread (so its not my "own thread"), but I have commented in it. (sure looks like a lot more than ~ZERO POSTS~ on the issue). I never said anywhere that I had the issue.

You linked to your own thread of the TSB in which everyone states “nope mine is dry”. What a troll lol.

Wait till you see the recent TSB’s for the 2022-2023 2.7 EcoBoost cylinder head knock and thumping. I don’t see many 2.7 owners with that issue either. SSM 51665 & 51542

I also see a 3.5 EcoBoost/PowerBoost coolant consumption TSB for 2023 models SSM 51485

Oh no! Everyone trade in for a 3.3 NA, it’s the only engine with no TSB!!!

 

[JExpedition07]

Dude read the posts in the thread lmao. Nobody reported a leak. The entire thread is you begging for someone to have an issue.

Here is the 2.7 startup rattle TSB for 2020-2023 F-150 vehicles. Requires all 4 camphasers to be replaced. I have yet to see this issue posted about on here, perfect example of TSB does not equate to widespread issue.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10234137-0001.pd

Annnd the 2.7 cylinder head knock

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10236688-0001.pdf

 

[gregs150xlt]

I read every post there. I didn't say anyone reported a leak. I was asking questions.
I wasn't "begging" for anything, and I wasn't the only commenting in the thread (I see your comments as well, but earlier you stated " there are a total of ~zero~ posts regarding that issue that I can find on any forum ).....

Dude read the posts in the thread lmao. Nobody reported a leak. The entire thread is you begging for someone to have an issue.

Here is the 2.7 startup rattle TSB for 2020-2023 F-150 vehicles. Requires all 4 camphasers to be replaced. I have yet to see this issue posted about on here, perfect example of TSB does not equate to widespread issue.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10234137-0001.pd

Annnd the 2.7 cylinder head knock

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10236688-0001.pdf

 

[sbi]

Here's your answer

 

[zimmer0]

If they had kept cylinder deactivation OUT of the current 5.0, it would have been an absolutely awesome engine. Its annoying as f&&&!
I really don't prefer to drive around in tow/haul mode all the time to defeat it.

Regardless of engine it will be tuned so not concerned.

The new Platinum MSRP is in the mid 60s, I would think that with a little shopping you could get a new one for just a little bit more money say in the upper 50s. With new truck inventory increasing on dealer lots if you wait you might be able to get an even better deal on a new one especially if Ford ups the rebates.

I would suggest checking with Granger on the cost of new. Just a thought.

Granger, good idea - although i've been eyeing the smoked quartz and unfortunately no longer offered.
Mid 60's for a Platinum aint happening around here (DFW) - $73-76k is what im seeing stickers at.

 

[RobertD]

Regardless of engine it will be tuned so not concerned.



Granger, good idea - although i've been eyeing the smoked quartz and unfortunately no longer offered.
Mid 60's for a Platinum aint happening around here (DFW) - $73-76k is what im seeing stickers at.

I live in the Houston area. You are even closer to Granger than I am. In Houston the best I could do was MSRP so I ordered through Granger. Good folks to work with.

Getting it titled in Texas was very easy. Granger will get you a transfer title from Iowa and then you get the truck inspected in Texas and go to the county tax office and pay the Texas sales tax and license fees and you are done. I was surprised how quick and painless it was.

 

[RobertD]

Just remembered, since you live in Texas you can join the Texas Farm Bureau for about $50 and get $500 off a new F150

https://texasfarmbureau.org/membership/member-benefits/vehicle/#ford-benefit-container

Other states have similar farm bureaus with the same discount.

 

[TworkTruck]

Everyone obviously is gonna have their own opinion and even the reliability aspect is so debatable at this point here is my 2 cents from a 20+ car owner at the age of 29..
I went to the dealership with the sole purpose of buying a 23' F150 Regular Cab about 4 months ago . I knew i was gonna be in between the 5.0 and the 3.5 ecoboost but I wasn't sure which one . I have not owned neither engine options but driven them both in a bone stock 18? Mustang GT and a unknown MY SHO with meth kit and tune. And knew both these motors were very capable in essence ( i know the versions in trucks are a lil different yada yada ) .
First i drove the 5.0 short bed , to sum it up was smooth and felt strong and progressive with the 10spd .
Next was the 3.5 long bed ( since they don't come with short bed unfortunately ) , could feel the difference in body before I even got on the highway , once I started merging I stepped on the pedal, it downshifted and started lighting the tires up at 55mph .. Needless to say I have a long bed in the driveway XD.
Torque is immense , if I try really hard I can manage around 30mpg on highway and I'm patiently waiting on a tune and a better rear end setup which basically leaves any 5.0 in the dust unless they have a blower .. My goal wasn't to spend 10k+ in mods on a 40k truck but still smoke almost anything off the lot under 100k and 3.5 ECO REG CAB will do XD

 

[JExpedition07]

Your observations are the exact same as mine. I felt the 2.7 & 5.0 felt about the same around town (with sound advantage to 5.0), but the 5.0 pulled much harder than the 2.7 when I pushed the pedal to merge onto the highway. The 5.0 gets downright scary if you let it keep pulling, the 2.7 never quite gets there.

The 3.5 felt like it had more low end than both as well as the same top end as the 5.0. I took them both up to about 4,500 rpm on my test drive and the 5.0 and 3.5 feel about the same up there but definitely a low end advatage to the 3.5 EcoBoost. Ultimately for what I tow (a 20’ boat) the 5.0’s 410 lb ft is more than enough and I loved the sound so I took the 5.0 home. Nothing wrong with the 3.5 EcoBoost. It felt like an all around great performer and the imo is the best engine choice for camper towing in any half ton. Not losing power at elevation is a huge selling point for the 3.5 Eco.

As a 24 year old there is still a lot of kid in me, I am always up in the revs to have fun, so the linear power band of the V8 was definitely a winner for me.

 

[gregs150xlt]

That explains the content of some of your posts.....

As a 24 year old there is still a lot of kid in me,

 

[gregs150xlt]

Just remembered, since you live in Texas you can join the Texas Farm Bureau for about $50 and get $500 off a new F150

https://texasfarmbureau.org/membership/member-benefits/vehicle/#ford-benefit-container

Other states have similar farm bureaus with the same discount.

We have TN Farm Bureau here, but you must have insurance thru them to gain access to the portal for the $500. (The dealer has to verify your membership as well). Not sure it varies in other states.

 

[TworkTruck]

Your observations are the exact same as mine. I felt the 2.7 & 5.0 felt about the same around town (with sound advantage to 5.0), but the 5.0 pulled much harder than the 2.7 when I pushed the pedal to merge onto the highway. The 5.0 gets downright scary if you let it keep pulling, the 2.7 never quite gets there.

The 3.5 felt like it had more low end than both as well as the same top end as the 5.0. I took them both up to about 4,500 rpm on my test drive and the 5.0 and 3.5 feel about the same up there but definitely a low end advatage to the 3.5 EcoBoost. Ultimately for what I tow (a 20’ boat) the 5.0’s 410 lb ft is more than enough and I loved the sound so I took the 5.0 home. Nothing wrong with the 3.5 EcoBoost. It felt like an all around great performer and the imo is the best engine choice for camper towing in any half ton. Not losing power at elevation is a huge selling point for the 3.5 Eco.

As a 24 year old there is still a lot of kid in me, I am always up in the revs to have fun, so the linear power band of the V8 was definitely a winner for me.

With how smooth the 5.0 was and ofc that top end ! , it was a really hard decision , like you said can't go wrong with both ... Since you mentioned , I am at 4,000 feet and probably made the eco feel just a tad better for that reason , MY biggest push for choosing the eco was really the tunability , turbo vs NA needless to say much easier to pull power out for little bucks and I still get nightmares from the thirst of my 5.7 Ram back in the day XD My avg is 23 mixed now so I don't regret my choice . Both engines are fine and people need to focus on their priorities when choosing , not the BS accusations of how the engine they didn't choose is Soooo much worse than theirs..
5.0 in design is nothing short of a "low budget" race engine or street budget version of a race engine if you catch my gist .. And the D35 ( 2nd gen eco to be exact ) is put in the Ford GT , ffs that's a car right there and they won't just throw any engine on such sophistication .
Both these engines are proven with high mileage real world users and their trucks aren't holding together by magic or good wishes ...

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