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@BobWadd Bob, no, but happy to take a look at your .abt for those if you want. Upload fresh copies with a .txt on the end of the filename.

In the meantime, what do you have in the BCM for:
726-73-01xxx*xxxxxx--
In your case, please use the value currently in the truck, not from an .abt file.
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@BobWadd Bob, no, but happy to take a look at your .abt for those if you want. Upload fresh copies with a .txt on the end of the filename.

In the meantime, what do you have in the BCM for:
726-73-01xxx*xxxxxx--
In your case, please use the value currently in the truck, not from an .abt file.
I pulled the attached .abt's a little bit earlier today as backups and have not made any changes since. Please let me know if you need any others.

I'll check the BCM value requested in the morning.

Thanks for your offer to help. I've owned Ford trucks most of my life and have never run into an issue quite like this.
 

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@BobWadd Bob, can you confirm for me that you have 4 front sensors in the front bumper and 4 rear sensors in the rear bumper. That should be the case if you have copilot assist 2.0 as your window sticker says and from what I understand of your trim level. This is very important to get right before anything else is done.

I see from the other thread that you actually added the front sensors (hopefully 4 of them). If you know all is well with them (wiring etc.), apart from configuration which we're working on, then we can proceed.

Sorry for the change of post text @rugedraw Javier, but Bob's truck is configured as a 4-channel rear only system where I believe he should be an 8-channel; we'll find out.
 
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@BobWadd Bob, I'm clocking off for the night so I'll assume your front and rear sensors are functional but just not configured correctly.

If any of the following changes list a different "from" value, don't proceed and let me know. The following assumes that you have 4 front sensors in the front bumper and 4 rear ones in the rear bumper. That should be the case if you have copilot assist 2.0 as your window sticker says. It's quite possible that these modules don't know what to do when you have 8 properly wired sensors, but are only configured for 4 ?‍♂

In your IPC, it looks like your front park aid system isn't right. If you don't get any front park aid beeping or graphics when you're a foot away from an obstacle at the front of the truck on the sync screen, then:
Change IPC:
720-09-02xxx*xx--
from 9 to D, and:
720-10-02xxxx*x--
from 8 to 9.

Reboot the IPC in FORScan service procedures (the spanner icon) and test for front and rear parking sensors operation. Probably won't work.
If no effect, leave these changes in there for now.

In your IPMA, front parking assist is disabled.
Change IPMA:
706-02-01xxx*xxxxxx--
From 7 to B, and:
706-02-01xxxxxxxx*x--
From 0 to 4, and:
706-12-01*xxxxxxxxx--
from 0 to 1.

Reboot the IPMA. Test front and rear operation, front probably won't display yet but will be configured to.

Same issue for your APIM.
Change APIM:
7D0-08-01xxxxxxx*xx--
from 1 to 2, and:
7D0-09-03xxxxxxxxx*--
from 3 to 7, and:
7D0-09-04xxxxxxx*xx--
from 8 to 0 (we can change this back if needed, but it should be fine).

Reboot the APIM. Test front and rear operation; all should be good. If not, reboot modules in this order: APIM then IPMA then IPC. If it's still a problem, report back any issues explicitly.

You should also check for any DTCs, especially if the IPC displays park aid fault messages. You may also need to run the parking sensor calibration service procedure in order to correct sensor focal length and populate sensor homography data.
 

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In the meantime, what do you have in the BCM for:
726-73-01xxx*xxxxxx--
In your case, please use the value currently in the truck, not from an .abt file.
I have a "1" in that position.
Ford F-150 2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet 726-73-01


@BobWadd Bob, can you confirm for me that you have 4 front sensors in the front bumper and 4 rear sensors in the rear bumper. That should be the case if you have copilot assist 2.0 as your window sticker says and from what I understand of your trim level. This is very important to get right before anything else is done.

I see from the other thread that you actually added the front sensors (hopefully 4 of them). If you know all is well with them (wiring etc.), apart from configuration which we're working on, then we can proceed.
Yes, I have 4 front sensors. Received an error today but replacement OEM sensors were delivered Friday. I will change sensors as needed then update in a following post.

UPDATE: Just went to install new sensor and they sent the wrong ones.

Ford F-150 2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet Error


I'll return and reorder. I'd love to get the rear working in the meantime if possible.

@BobWadd Bob, I'm clocking off for the night so I'll assume your front and rear sensors are functional but just not configured correctly.

If any of the following changes list a different "from" value, don't proceed and let me know. The following assumes that you have 4 front sensors in the front bumper and 4 rear ones in the rear bumper. That should be the case if you have copilot assist 2.0 as your window sticker says. It's quite possible that these modules don't know what to do when you have 8 properly wired sensors, but are only configured for 4 ?‍♂

In your IPC, it looks like your front park aid system isn't right. If you don't get any front park aid beeping or graphics when you're a foot away from an obstacle at the front of the truck on the sync screen, then:
Change IPC:
720-09-02xxx*xx--
from 9 to D, and:
720-10-02xxxx*x--
from 8 to 9.

Reboot the IPC in FORScan service procedures (the spanner icon) and test for front and rear parking sensors operation. Probably won't work.
If no effect, leave these changes in there for now.

In your IPMA, front parking assist is disabled.
Change IPMA:
706-02-01xxx*xxxxxx--
From 7 to B, and:
706-02-01xxxxxxxx*x--
From 0 to 4, and:
706-12-01*xxxxxxxxx--
from 0 to 1.

Reboot the IPMA. Test front and rear operation, front probably won't display yet but will be configured to.

Same issue for your APIM.
Change APIM:
7D0-08-01xxxxxxx*xx--
from 1 to 2, and:
7D0-09-03xxxxxxxxx*--
from 3 to 7, and:
7D0-09-04xxxxxxx*xx--
from 8 to 0 (we can change this back if needed, but it should be fine).

Reboot the APIM. Test front and rear operation; all should be good. If not, reboot modules in this order: APIM then IPMA then IPC. If it's still a problem, report back any issues explicitly.

You should also check for any DTCs, especially if the IPC displays park aid fault messages. You may also need to run the parking sensor calibration service procedure in order to correct sensor focal length and populate sensor homography data.
All changes are as listed. Obviously, there is a data issue either due to a bad sensor, wiring (used OEM harness) or possibly this? Maybe due to chip shortage my IPMA cannot handle 8 channels?

Previous to the recent FDRS updates Rear Parking Aid functioned but never did not show the Rear Parking Aid distance bars as discussed here. Annunciator worked fine but no longer does.

Unfortunately, due to time constraints adding the Front Parking Aid has been a much to long drawn-out process. I really appreciate all that have help with these issues.
 

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I’ve run into an issue with the turn signal number of flashes. I added the heated steering wheel and enabled it in the SCCM. The problem is the enable digit is also the first digit for the number of turn signal flashes. The highest I can set the two digits to is 8C. Which only gives me three flashes. If I add 4 to 8C it bumps the first digit up to a nine and the HSW requires an eight for enable. My understanding of hex is minimal at best so maybe I’m missing something. Any help would be great.
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I’ve run into an issue with the turn signal number of flashes. I added the heated steering wheel and enabled it in the SCCM. The problem is the enable digit is also the first digit for the number of turn signal flashes. The highest I can set the two digits to is 8C. Which only gives me three flashes. If I add 4 to 8C it bumps the first digit up to a nine and the HSW requires an eight for enable. My understanding of hex is minimal at best so maybe I’m missing something. Any help would be great.
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9 is fine for that byte. The 8 just means that the highest value bit of the byte needs to be enabled. So that means to add 8 to whatever else your get in that byte. The lower 3 bits of that byte are the upper 3 bits of the 7 bits used for the cancel blink num.
 

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I have a "1" in that position.
726-73-01.jpg
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That's good.
I'd love to get the rear working in the meantime if possible...
As I mentioned before, having 8 channels physically connected but only 4 channels configured could pose issues. I don't know. I spent hours on this yesterday under the assumption that all hardware was functioning. You can revert all changes I've posted if you like, but I've got nothing more for you until you have 8 physically correct channels, or until you restore the truck back to its original, physically (including wiring) correct 4 channels.
 

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I pulled the attached .abt's a little bit earlier today as backups and have not made any changes since. Please let me know if you need any others.

I'll check the BCM value requested in the morning.

Thanks for your offer to help. I've owned Ford trucks most of my life and have never run into an issue quite like this.
I've been comparing some of your settings to my saved off values before I also added the front sensors and ACC a few months ago. Some things to note:

I think you need to add the adjustable chimes for rear sensors:
7D0-08-01 x*xx xxxx xx-- Change 0->8

I'm not sure exactly why, if the spreadsheet has the enabled/disabled swapped, or what, but there are some rear park aid settings that need to be set to disabled. This is how mine was before and after adding the front sensors.
7D0-09-04 xxxx xxx* xx-- Change 8->0
720-02-02 *xxx xxxx xx-- Change 5->4
720-02-02 x*xx xxxx xx-- Change A->8

Your front park aid long term disable isn't set in the IPC if you want those disabled right now.
720-10-02 xxxx *x-- Change 8->4

Last note, in case you were still needing to source the sensors. I had success with these from Wheeler Fleet, and they are the correct Ford sensors. I couldn't pass up the cost savings. LU5Z15K859AAPTM Park Sensor Ford Motor Co
 

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I've been comparing some of your settings to my saved off values before I also added the front sensors and ACC a few months ago. Some things to note:

I think you need to add the adjustable chimes for rear sensors:
7D0-08-01 x*xx xxxx xx-- Change 0->8
As my stock KR has working rear sensors, and this is disabled (0) on mine, I didn't mention changing it in my post.
I'm not sure exactly why, if the spreadsheet has the enabled/disabled swapped, or what, but there are some rear park aid settings that need to be set to disabled. This is how mine was before and after adding the front sensors.
7D0-09-04 xxxx xxx* xx-- Change 8->0
720-02-02 *xxx xxxx xx-- Change 5->4
Agreed, didn't think of those Two. They remove control of park aid where it's not supposed to be on our trucks. To explain "swapped", some modules have complementary (inverse) logic to implement functions; as you know it can never be assumed that a binary 1 equals "enabled" in all cases.
720-02-02 x*xx xxxx xx-- Change A->8
Removes the switch in the cluster which I didn't think was important at this point but I'm not sure so, good for it to be gone.
Your front park aid long term disable isn't set in the IPC if you want those disabled right now.
720-10-02 xxxx *x-- Change 8->4
This should definitely NOT be done. He has a diesel truck and this would change the IPC to thinking it's a petrol truck. In both cases, FPALTD is disabled already.
Last note, in case you were still needing to source the sensors. I had success with these from Wheeler Fleet, and they are the correct Ford sensors. I couldn't pass up the cost savings. LU5Z15K859AAPTM Park Sensor Ford Motor Co
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I'd like to thank everyone for their help and the time. I'll see what I can do this evening It will all depend on how work goes today.

New sensors should be here by Thursday.

Looking forward to getting this resolved :)
 

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As my stock KR has working rear sensors, and this is disabled (0) on mine, I didn't mention changing it in my post.
Agreed, didn't think of those Two. They remove control of park aid where it's not supposed to be on our trucks. To explain "swapped", some modules have complementary (inverse) logic to implement functions; as you know it can never be assumed that a binary 1 equals "enabled" in all cases.
Removes the switch in the cluster which I didn't think was important at this point but I'm not sure so, good for it to be gone.
This should definitely NOT be done. He has a diesel truck and this would change the IPC to thinking it's a petrol truck. In both cases, FPALTD is disabled already.
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Thank you for double checking me! I agree, that 720-10-02 is correct already and should NOT be changed.
 

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9 is fine for that byte. The 8 just means that the highest value bit of the byte needs to be enabled. So that means to add 8 to whatever else your get in that byte. The lower 3 bits of that byte are the upper 3 bits of the 7 bits used for the cancel blink num.
Thanks, that worked, HEX is still somewhat like voodoo to me
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will the forscan modes change your as-built data.. i was looking at my truck and everything i changed with for scan is reflecting in the as built as a new value.
 

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will the forscan modes change your as-built data.. i was looking at my truck and everything i changed with for scan is reflecting in the as built as a new value.
Eventually the changes you make will make their way up to the mothership and become your new permanent ab data.
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