Hurricane Debby

[RociPB]

Low risk high reward with breaker interlock backfeed.

Are you talking about using a GFCI ready interlock switch or are you saying clip the ground and use a non-gfci transfer switch?

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[HammaMan]

Are you talking about using a GFCI ready interlock switch or are you saying clip the ground and use a non-gfci transfer switch?

Discontinuous ground at the point it enters into the structure (via purpose-built discontinuous-ground dogbone) retaining the structures earthing system & N/G bond. 3 pole transfer switch w/ limited circuits is too limiting. Power the whole home, power down AC/WH while retaining everything else.

 

[RociPB]

Discontinuous ground at the point it enters into the structure (via purpose-built discontinuous-ground dogbone) retaining the structures earthing system & N/G bond.

You have a product you recommend? I assume you can’t post links here, but I’ll google that for sure.

 

[HammaMan]

You have a product you recommend? I assume you can’t post links here, but I’ll google that for sure.

I have instructions on here somewhere to make one. Do you already have a generator backfeed?

 

[My 2ND Ford]

We've learned a few things about hurricanes. Also, our electrical grid isn't held together with bubblegum and coat hangers, like Texas is.. ??

It's not just Texas, everybody's grid is suffering from mergers, deferred maintenance and trying to satisfy shareholders instead of plowing profits back into the company.

 

[HammaMan]

It's not just Texas, everybody's grid is suffering from mergers, deferred maintenance and trying to satisfy shareholders instead of plowing profits back into the company.

Ours is pretty damn good. Granted we did just turn on the world most expensive nuke plant. Granted I hate monopolies.

 

[RociPB]

I have instructions on here somewhere to make one. Do you already have a generator backfeed?

No Sir, I haven’t bought one because I just wanted to get one that worked with the GFCI in the power boost. But is it more involved than getting a magic fix it all gfci switch? Man this window unit is sounding better and better every time I research this. Or I’ll buy a new house that is more ready to accept this setup (currently a 1950s block house)

 

[My 2ND Ford]

Ours is pretty damn good. Granted we did just turn on the world most expensive nuke plant. Granted I hate monopolies.

Ours is getting better. They did a bunch of infrastructure improvements 2 yrs ago which really helped when we have bad storms. Our electric provider is 100% better than the other companies further upstate.

 

[fmdog44]

We've learned a few things about hurricanes. Also, our electrical grid isn't held together with bubblegum and coat hangers, like Texas is.. ??

I live in Houston and am anxious to learn how your power company responds to help in the recovery. Centerpoint here in Texas is shit. I understand the storm hit FL as a Cat 1

 

[Eskram]

I live in Houston and am anxious to learn how your power company responds to help in the recovery. Centerpoint here in Texas is shit. I understand the storm hit FL as a Cat 1

There are regional power companies - most of my adult life I've either had TECO or Florida Power. After the storms in 2004, most utility companies moved a lot of the infrastructure underground and make a routine effort to clean up trees around aerial lines, so wind/limbs don't take out the lines.

In 2004, I was without power for about two weeks after Charley. I lived in a different part of Florida and the lines to every house/street were aerial and got ripped out. It took forever for everything to physically be rebuilt.

Fast-forward, I haven't been without power for more than 5 hours or so, and that was a one-off. TECO is very quick to respond to 'normal' outages, and ramps up resources when storms are expected. They're also transparent and have a great live outage map, with actual details and expected time to fix.

 

[fmdog44]

There are regional power companies - most of my adult life I've either had TECO or Florida Power. After the storms in 2004, most utility companies moved a lot of the infrastructure underground and make a routine effort to clean up trees around aerial lines, so wind/limbs don't take out the lines.

In 2004, I was without power for about two weeks after Charley. I lived in a different part of Florida and the lines to every house/street were aerial and got ripped out. It took forever for everything to physically be rebuilt.

Fast-forward, I haven't been without power for more than 5 hours or so, and that was a one-off. TECO is very quick to respond to 'normal' outages, and ramps up resources when storms are expected. They're also transparent and have a great live outage map, with actual details and expected time to fix.

Thanks. The grid here is stupid because I lose power for two days in my condo unit while others in the same complex got for 3+ weeks and others in the Houston area go fora month, CenterPoint is being sued by everyone including the squirrels and birds.

 

[AndreB]

You have a product you recommend? I assume you can’t post links here, but I’ll google that for sure.

Hello, following are 2 products that I used at my place and my kids places. One with 30 amps maximum main breaker and the other with 60 amps maximum main breaker. These 2 Squade D panels not only switch the 2 120 volts line (making 240 volts), but also the neutral wire, which is the problematic wire for neutral/ground returns to the electricity utility. Also solves the GFCI tripping problem. Over here in Canada, this is the cheap legal way to go. Once installed and your electrical (emergency) circuits transferred to this pannel, the installation of and outdoor plug, makes hocking a generator or PB a breeze. *** Don't forget to limit/match your Pro Power capacity to the load in the pannel. Also, this is a manuel transfer from Utility to Generator/Pro Power (hence the low cost of the installation). Hope this helps.

https://www.se.com/us/en/product/QO...s-60a-main-breaker-pon-nema1-cover-with-door/

https://www.se.com/us/en/product/QO...s-30a-main-breaker-pon-nema1-cover-with-door/


https://www.amazon.com/Generator-Wa...sprefix=30+amps+generator+plug,aps,108&sr=8-5

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[ReverendQ]

It's not just Texas, everybody's grid is suffering from mergers, deferred maintenance and trying to satisfy shareholders instead of plowing profits back into the company.

They got it down in India.

 

[HammaMan]

Look, you can make an autonomous generator panel by using a pair of these 3P contactors

When utility power is out, the 3 pole utility fed contactor is open (w/ aux NC circuit enabled allowing generator coil to close). When you connect the generator and power it on, it energizes the generator contactor to power the panel while also opening the utility's coil power feed (so it can't close). This is very simple / cheap stuff that doesn't require but a $80 subpanel and maybe $120 in parts. This isn't rocket science. As soon as the generator power is cut, the contactor opens while closing the coil feed to the utility coil allowing it to close. These are essentially relays but for industrial applications. I use these to build load shed systems in generators.

Be sure to fuse coils w/ 5a fuses

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