Gorilla lugs marring when installing?

[mau47]

Well, if they fit- not sure how it can hurt then I guess, right?

Yeah, Not sure it's going to do a ton based on where it's at inside but better than nothing I guess?

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[nomarhits400]

Yeah, Not sure it's going to do a ton based on where it's at inside but better than nothing I guess?

Yeah, That’s interesting- it’s not on the side where all the torque is being applied- but does seem to help protect the corner edges where the marring is occurring (for the most part)- definitely looks like it might at least help!

 

[Hawk75]

Yeah, That’s interesting- it’s not on the side where all the torque is being applied- but does seem to help protect the corner edges where the marring is occurring (for the most part)- definitely looks like it might at least help!

I'll give them a try and report back to the group!

 

[Snakebitten]

I wonder if they are real Gorilla lugs?
There's so much counterfeit these days. At one time Gorilla earned its reputation for NOT marring easily.

 

[fordtruckman2003]

My gorilla chrome lugs had similar marks so I'm not surprised.

Amazon has lug nut condoms if you want to cover them up.

Sharpie sounds like a good idea to me.

 

[adyaro77]

Non-marring socket won’t do you any good on the lug side though- it’s obviously not coated there.

The Ford Performance lugs are extremely durable. When I first saw the price years ago I was like no way. Then halfway through winter and a couple tire rotations the lugs looked like hell. Get what you pay for.

And some regular sockets have grooves on the inside. So I think some of the "non-marring" sockets are a different metal and smooth inside. I use the Milwaukee version.

I attached a zoomed in picture of the lugs sitting on my workbench after one Michigan winter and several tire changes by the dealership. There are some extremely fine scratches. But to see them you have to be holding them up close. If you look close you can see a small scratch on the left lug.

 

[fordtruckman2003]

The Ford Performance lugs are extremely durable. When I first saw the price years ago I was like no way. Then halfway through winter and a couple tire rotations the lugs looked like hell. Get what you pay for.

And some regular sockets have grooves on the inside. So I think some of the "non-marring" sockets are a different metal and smooth inside. I use the Milwaukee version.

I attached a zoomed in picture of the lugs sitting on my workbench after one Michigan winter and several tire changes by the dealership. There are some extremely fine scratches. But to see them you have to be holding them up close. If you look close you can see a small scratch on the left lug.

Standard Ford two piece lugs or a solid one piece? That is the real appeal of gorilla over the years because the OEM two piece used by all manufacturers now suck.

 

[adyaro77]

Standard Ford two piece lugs or a solid one piece? That is the real appeal of gorilla over the years because the OEM two piece used by all manufacturers now suck.

I have yet to see black Ford OEM lugs. At $175 the Ford performance lugs are far superior. I wish I would have taken pictures of the gorilla lugs. They made my wheels look bad. I guess if you live in a warm climate like Florida. But here in Michigan once the gorilla lugs nick it's over.

Now I know some guys will oil the outside of their lugs kind of like rust prevention.

But again I wouldn't call Ford performance OEM. Not being argumentative, but I'm sure there's a lot of guys on here that have been modifying their trucks for decades. A lot of trial and error. A lot of trying to save a penny. My point is I have pissed a lot of money away on lugs. These have lasted through the winter and dealerships impacts and still look fantastic.

 

[nomarhits400]

I have yet to see black Ford OEM lugs. At $175 the Ford performance lugs are far superior. I wish I would have taken pictures of the gorilla lugs. They made my wheels look bad. I guess if you live in a warm climate like Florida. But here in Michigan once the gorilla lugs nick it's over.

Now I know some guys will oil the outside of their lugs kind of like rust prevention.

But again I wouldn't call Ford performance OEM. Not being argumentative, but I'm sure there's a lot of guys on here that have been modifying their trucks for decades. A lot of trial and error. A lot of trying to save a penny. My point is I have pissed a lot of money away on lugs. These have lasted through the winter and dealerships impacts and still look fantastic.

Yeah, those look like they are in pretty good shape. The gorillas pictured are the same as I have- and mine have been though two winters- and plenty of salt (I’m in Ohio) without issue- other than the nicked edges as mentioned.

Maybe you got a bad set- or maybe the Michigan winter eventually took its toll. It’s nice to know that there is an alternative if mine should start to rust as you described. Do you have a part number for the Ford performance lugs?

 

[adyaro77]

Yeah, those look like they are in pretty good shape. The gorillas pictured are the same as I have- and mine have been though two winters- and plenty of salt (I’m in Ohio) without issue- other than the nicked edges as mentioned.

Maybe you got a bad set- or maybe the Michigan winter eventually took its toll. It’s nice to know that there is an alternative if mine should start to rust as you described. Do you have a part number for the Ford performance lugs?

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-1012K-F15B

Yes and also I know the dealerships use an impact. I changed dealerships after I had to break off the locks. I think if I was the only one messing with the lugs they would have lasted a lot longer. These Ford performance are advertised as extremely durable and can be taken on and off several times without scratching.

 

[mau47]

The Ford Performance lugs are extremely durable. When I first saw the price years ago I was like no way. Then halfway through winter and a couple tire rotations the lugs looked like hell. Get what you pay for.

And some regular sockets have grooves on the inside. So I think some of the "non-marring" sockets are a different metal and smooth inside. I use the Milwaukee version.

I attached a zoomed in picture of the lugs sitting on my workbench after one Michigan winter and several tire changes by the dealership. There are some extremely fine scratches. But to see them you have to be holding them up close. If you look close you can see a small scratch on the left lug.

I have the Milwaukee as well, and never noticed until I looked today that they also have the nylon inserts in the bottom of them like the set from up thread Amazon.

 

[adyaro77]

I have the Milwaukee as well, and never noticed until I looked today that they also have the nylon inserts in the bottom of them like the set from up thread Amazon.

What's comical is I didn't really know what I was looking for. So I went to Home Depot and found the Milwaukee socket. I leave it in the glove box with the lock. It was a tech at the dealership that told me how good it was. I highly recommend.

 

[ReverendQ]

Hey all - looked at some threads here that recommended the gorilla black lug nuts for our black rims. I just attempted to install a few of them and every one ended up with some amount of black coming off and showing steel. I installed them with a manual torque wrench to try to prevent this. Thoughts on what I did wrong? Are these not the right gorilla lugs? Picture attached shows one with a small chip as an example.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/gorilla-nut-kit-factory-style-steel-black-f-150-raptor/p/WHLLN123/

Consider a sharpie now that they are showing thier metal.

 

[fordtruckman2003]

I have yet to see black Ford OEM lugs. At $175 the Ford performance lugs are far superior. I wish I would have taken pictures of the gorilla lugs. They made my wheels look bad. I guess if you live in a warm climate like Florida. But here in Michigan once the gorilla lugs nick it's over.

Now I know some guys will oil the outside of their lugs kind of like rust prevention.

But again I wouldn't call Ford performance OEM. Not being argumentative, but I'm sure there's a lot of guys on here that have been modifying their trucks for decades. A lot of trial and error. A lot of trying to save a penny. My point is I have pissed a lot of money away on lugs. These have lasted through the winter and dealerships impacts and still look fantastic.

It's hard to tell in pic if they are OEM design that will fall apart in few years or a solid real lug nut.

I have the black gorilla so I'll see if they fail as yours did in few Indiana winters. Glad Ford has an option that appears to be better.

 

[adyaro77]

It's hard to tell in pic if they are OEM design that will fall apart in few years or a solid real lug nut.

I have the black gorilla so I'll see if they fail as yours did in few Indiana winters. Glad Ford has an option that appears to be better.

What I noticed almost immediately with the gorilla was the amount of nicks even with a non-marring socket. Even being extremely gentle didn't seem to help. I've had a conversation with my dealership about Black lugs. They told me that you could paint the Chrome ones black and they would probably last longer than most ? They're the ones that recommended the Ford performance. The reason I didn't get them sooner was the cost. When you include Ford performance locks you're at almost $250.

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