Livernois eboost tune

[astrand1]

That’s quite a bit higher than my average. Do you remember your pre-tuned mpg? Comparing my low twenties to your high twenties involves too many variables to be relevant imo.
fyi I love this truck too ?. I was recently in the Blue Ridge and I found out why it can run hot under heavy loads and it’s because it is so incredibly strong it felt effortless accelerating to 90mph up and over a long 7% grade.

I’d say I’ve gone up maybe 1 maybe 1 1/2 mpg ish. This is not scientific by a long shot but just looking at the numbers and that after the tune I’m constantly above 800mte vs in the mid 700’s. And yeah these trucks are amazing. I love mine.

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[biorchang]

What about mpg increase while towing? Towing an Airstream and looking to increase MPG while towing it. Recently installed the CVF Titan V2 for an upcoming camping trip and considering the tune if I can squeeze out another 1 MPG...

 

[nitrobass24]

Does this modify the truck "modes" at all? I really like how the truck responds and shifts in sport mode, but it drives me crazy that it wont go into eletric when in sport mode. I find myself driving in Normal mode all the time as a result.

Also can you provide more details on how you are monitoring the SOC? Im a bit surprised the truck keeps it so low, figured it would charge up to 90% or so to facilitate more electric driving around town.

 

[Heavishot]

My guess is Ford set the battery charge and discharge levels so conservative to prolong battery health over the long haul. Kinda like Apple adding an 80% max charge setting to iPhone 15 to promote improved battery health.

 

[Suns_PSD]

I have a 22 PB with the livernois tuner. I have mine set on the 87-93 towing tune w/e-boost. So what it does is gives you the full battery from a dead stop (assuming it has charge). Normally that little bar that shows your ev threshold is very narrow from a stop. And as you speed up it gets bigger. Makes it hard to accelerate from a stop in electric. Their tune allows for you to have full electric power from a stop. So now I can go from a dead stop all the way up to maybe 40-50mph depending on state of charge of my battery in full electric. And not at a snails pace either. In stop and go traffic or in town it’s quite nice. I’ve gained better mileage this way. They don’t change the threshold of what ford allows for the useable amount of energy in the batt. But they just give you full use all the way down to 41% (I have a scangauge that shows percentage) on the stock tune ford starts pulling back at around 45% and then you can run it down to 41% but it’s hard to. I like it.

Can you safely run this tune on 87 Octane?

I've been on the Livernois tune for a good while now.

The Good: Well the truck is a pleasure to drive and so effortlessly gets right up to the required speed. I'd even call it quite fun.

The Bad: Well, I spend an extra $10 or so once a week on the Super unleaded fill up which is actually about $500/ year. I'm not certain the extra acceleration is quite worth that to me. The other Con is that Livernois is not pulling enough timing and/ or downshifting aggressively enough for very hot intake air and it'll knock, and I mean BADLY, on a hot Texas day going uphill. As in it'll throw a code and reduce power. Also, there was no mpg improvement running the tune, and honestly maybe a very slight drop of about .5-1 mpg. I mean I am doing more 'work' with a handful of brisk accelerations daily.

I might stick with running 93 Octane, but just run the tow tune if it has more margin in it due to less aggressive timing.

Thoughts?

PS. It's now winter here in TX and my gosh does this engine/ tune love a bit of cool air.

PSS. I called Livernois and the 'e-boost' option was added 1 month after I purchased my tune. Looks like I'll be adding that now.

 

[Samson16]

I truly don't understand the post. Paying hundreds of dollars to modify your truck with all the risk that entails, and then worrying about premium fuel prices?
Seriously, the PB is wicked fast for a nearly 6,000lb. truck in stock form. I must be missing something.

 

[HammaMan]

I must be missing something.

A solid 25% bump in power.

Plus it's boost season

 

[Samson16]

I get that part which is impressive to be sure. The premium fuel complaint after spending a grand on the tune was confusing.

Has anyone with Livernois gone ahead and dyno-tested and then ran it to get some times? I've seen the videos online, but some forum confirmation would be neat!

 

[Suns_PSD]

Guys, anyone tested the Tow tune vs. the Performance tune for mpg & driveability?

I did get some severe knocking 1x on the Performance tune on a very hot TX day on a steep hill that has made me a bit gun shy and to be cautious I've considered going to the Tow Tune full time.

Thoughts?

UPDATED: I only have 40 miles or so on the new Tune. Instead of running the old 91-93 octane Performance tune (on 93 Octane) I'm now running the Tow tune with e-boost (also on 93 Octane).

It's too soon to really assess much but I will say, it's got less pep. If I were to spitball it, I'd say it feels down about 35hp/ 40 tq. Enough to definitely be able to tell, but it's not a dog or anything.

At first it didn't go into Hybrid mode at all, they seem to do that after fresh programming I've noticed before. But on at least one occasion it felt as if the electric motor alone was definitely able to carry the truck further and to a higher speed than it would on the old tune.

As far as mileage, it was my average for this trip to work that I every day, or possibly a bit higher. I'll know more about this in a week or two.

Regarding the shifting, this can also me messed up by a new tune but a couple of times it seemed to shift more often, which I prefer. Sometimes on the old tune I feel like it bogs a bit because it tries to hang on to, to high of a gear and use the torque to pull through.

I intend to stick with the Tow tune because as I said before, I got some pretty heavy knocking 1x on the Performance tune and I don't care that much about the last little bit of power. I'd prefer some more margin. Am a bit torn on the Octane of fuel to use as it cost an extra $10 every time to fill up with Super. But I'll probably stick with the 93 Octane.

 

[Suns_PSD]

I'm about (edited) 480 miles in on the tow tune with 1-boost just driving normal.

For me, it never has taken long for mileage to settle in exactly at 20 mpg only occasionally dropping to 19.9 then eventually going back to 20.0.

I went from the Performance 91-93 tune to the Tow 87-93 e-boost tune. Same fuel as always, Costco 93 Octane.

On the old tune I typically had 11- 12% of driven miles on E. With the new tune, I'm sitting at (edited)about the same. I expected the addition of the e-boost option to make a difference in this percent, but it did not.

Also, my mileage that always went to 20.0 very quickly on the old tune, is sitting at 20.2 mpg on the new tune so I consider the mileage essentially the same. Weather has turned notably colder since I swapped tunes so that could be reducing economy a bit.

Regarding the Tune differences themselves, I'm sticking with the Tow tune. Yah, it feels notably slower but it's still plenty of power. But it also sounds softer and feels less 'panic-ed' if that's a thing. Also, I'm preferring the shifting. It's more eager to downshift now, pops through the gears a bit quicker and doesn't do that weird transmission hang up thing that the Performance tune does when you do a hard pull, and the RPMs remain artificially high when you chop the throttle.

Also, since I had the knocking incident on the Performance tune and will be traveling to the mountains for X-mas, I feel better about having a tune that can live on just 87 Octane if it has too.

 

[doolin64]

I have a 22 PB with the livernois tuner. I have mine set on the 87-93 towing tune w/e-boost. So what it does is gives you the full battery from a dead stop (assuming it has charge). Normally that little bar that shows your ev threshold is very narrow from a stop. And as you speed up it gets bigger. Makes it hard to accelerate from a stop in electric. Their tune allows for you to have full electric power from a stop. So now I can go from a dead stop all the way up to maybe 40-50mph depending on state of charge of my battery in full electric. And not at a snails pace either. In stop and go traffic or in town it’s quite nice. I’ve gained better mileage this way. They don’t change the threshold of what ford allows for the useable amount of energy in the batt. But they just give you full use all the way down to 41% (I have a scangauge that shows percentage) on the stock tune ford starts pulling back at around 45% and then you can run it down to 41% but it’s hard to. I like it.

Do you have any further updates? I'm really interested in this tune mainly for the e-boost mode. Your experience seems opposite of the Suns_PSD

 

[Suns_PSD]

I think there are a few folks on here with a Powerboost that have the 3.5 PB Livernois tune- but perhaps they just have the 3.5 and I am mis-remembering.

I have a 2023 PB and am frustrated a bit that the current tune offerings from Livernois/5 Star/SCT, etc. all seem to limit tunes for the 21-22 model years (for now). I am guessing at some point in the future this will change- especially if 24+ models pose the same challenges- but Livernois wasn't able to give me a timeline- or a promise that it would ever happen- the last time I spoke with them 3-4 months ago.

It's probably for the best- as I really don't need the power after driving this truck for the last 6 months- and I very rarely use Sport mode- but would definitely consider doing so if a Tuner could find a way to engage the electric drive- and allow for a little more liberal use of the OD gears at highway speeds for use as a daily drive mode....And I also would not be adverse to a little more sophisticated shift strategy- though I don't really have any real complaints about the stock transmission shifting- it's been very smooth over the first 7,000 miles.

One of the reasons that I cancelled my '24 order.

 

[HammaMan]

One of the reasons that I cancelled my '24 order.

24s and up go even crazier with their encrypted busses
Per indications from @Jesse-Infotainment the encrypted bus makes turning lower trims into higher trims much more difficult so you're stuck with whatever comes from the factory for most of the module swap options.

 

[Tank]

Well..a months have passed and new records have been set.
I've done a 3.5sec 0-60mph, and a 11.7 in the 1/4,mile...on the Livernois E50 tune with Eboost

Here's my video of the runs..

 

[Jerome10]

24s and up go even crazier with their encrypted busses
Per indications from @Jesse-Infotainment the encrypted bus makes turning lower trims into higher trims much more difficult so you're stuck with whatever comes from the factory for most of the module swap options.

I keep looking for just something to get better shifting out of my 23 powerboost. Don’t care about power or any of that. Just want a better shift.

With that said I keep hearing about the locked down systems.

My feeling? Do you own your car or do you not? I get the argument but at the same time should you not have full access to anything you want with your own property? Minimum I feel Ford should provide the encryption keys if requested.

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