Livernois eboost tune

[Diligenthunter]

Noticed in the other threads people talking about this “eboost tune”

Livernois has no documentation anywhere discussing this.

Called them and they put a support ticket in for more information but was told it would be awhile…

When I asked the rep why they have no information anywhere they said “oh it’s all over the Facebook group”. Well great but there’s still those of us that don’t have Facebook.

Does anyone have this tune? Does it just change how much load can be put in the electric motor?
Does it effect the discharge and charge levels of the battery?

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[nomarhits400]

Noticed in the other threads people talking about this “eboost tune”

Livernois has no documentation anywhere discussing this.

Called them and they put a support ticket in for more information but was told it would be awhile…

When I asked the rep why they have no information anywhere they said “oh it’s all over the Facebook group”. Well great but there’s still those of us that don’t have Facebook.

Does anyone have this tune? Does it just change how much load can be put in the electric motor?
Does it effect the discharge and charge levels of the battery?

I think there are a few folks on here with a Powerboost that have the 3.5 PB Livernois tune- but perhaps they just have the 3.5 and I am mis-remembering.

I have a 2023 PB and am frustrated a bit that the current tune offerings from Livernois/5 Star/SCT, etc. all seem to limit tunes for the 21-22 model years (for now). I am guessing at some point in the future this will change- especially if 24+ models pose the same challenges- but Livernois wasn't able to give me a timeline- or a promise that it would ever happen- the last time I spoke with them 3-4 months ago.

It's probably for the best- as I really don't need the power after driving this truck for the last 6 months- and I very rarely use Sport mode- but would definitely consider doing so if a Tuner could find a way to engage the electric drive- and allow for a little more liberal use of the OD gears at highway speeds for use as a daily drive mode....And I also would not be adverse to a little more sophisticated shift strategy- though I don't really have any real complaints about the stock transmission shifting- it's been very smooth over the first 7,000 miles.

 

[HammaMan]

I have a 2023 PB and am frustrated a bit that the current tune offerings from Livernois/5 Star/SCT, etc. all seem to limit tunes for the 21-22 model years (for now). I am guessing at some point in the future this will change- especially if 24+ models pose the same challenges- but Livernois wasn't able to give me a timeline- or a promise that it would ever happen- the last time I spoke with them 3-4 months ago.

Honestly I don't have much hope for easy future tuning. Things are getting more locked down, even with things that shouldn't be locked down like adding a module to a bus. It took a minute to get something on the 21s and 2s, ECU flashing may work for a couple years before the only thing left is a complete interception of engine modules which always seems to come with a bug or two.

I don't use any of zuck's products and FB groups / pages being used vs an information repository happens because they want ultimate control over the narrative being pushed.
"come to the place where we control the narrative and everything is rainbows and lollipops!"
no

 

[Diligenthunter]

I don't use any of zuck's products and FB groups / pages being used vs an information repository happens because they want ultimate control over the narrative being pushed.
"come to the place where we control the narrative and everything is rainbows and lollipops!"
no

That right here is my issue with that.


So I have the 5 star tune on my 2022 powerboost, power is good, 1-2 shift and 2-3 shift are kinda harsh. Would love to data log and get the tune updated but the hp tuners mpvi3 dongle seems to be defective and won’t stay connected to my phone for more than a minute.

Just ordered the Livernois tune and will report back with my findings on battery usage.

 

[nomarhits400]

Honestly I don't have much hope for easy future tuning. Things are getting more locked down, even with things that shouldn't be locked down like adding a module to a bus. It took a minute to get something on the 21s and 2s, ECU flashing may work for a couple years before the only thing left is a complete interception of engine modules which always seems to come with a bug or two.

I don't use any of zuck's products and FB groups / pages being used vs an information repository happens because they want ultimate control over the narrative being pushed.
"come to the place where we control the narrative and everything is rainbows and lollipops!"
no

Perhaps- but I experienced similar issues with my BMW as well; it took couple years to crack the PCM that folks said was impossible. I imagine it may just come down to the market for a tune on a truck.....In that case, I would tend to agree that maybe the money's not there- but I have never owned a platform that sells close to a million units a year, either- so maybe I'll be surprised.

 

[TheGoatman]

If the global b on GMs were cracked, I wouldn’t worry about these. Give it time.

 

[B3RG]

Honestly I don't have much hope for easy future tuning. Things are getting more locked down, even with things that shouldn't be locked down like adding a module to a bus. It took a minute to get something on the 21s and 2s, ECU flashing may work for a couple years before the only thing left is a complete interception of engine modules which always seems to come with a bug or two.

I don't use any of zuck's products and FB groups / pages being used vs an information repository happens because they want ultimate control over the narrative being pushed.
"come to the place where we control the narrative and everything is rainbows and lollipops!"
no

I just spoke with someone at livernois a couple days ago. They are able to tune the 23 3.5L EB, the catch is they are going to swap out your ECU and charge you $1100 before they can tune your truck. So you’re looking at almost 3x the price to tune your F150. If you could find a 22 that’s the tune, intercooler, exhaust and intake. I’m just ?? there’s a breakthrough soon.

 

[Diligenthunter]

Installed the Livernois tune.

Overall a much easier process then the 5 star hp tuners method.

Plugged tuner into laptop, downloaded, updated and registered tuner.

Plugged tuner into obd port recorded strategy codes and selected programming, unplugged unit.

Popped hood connected provided adapter to battery, removed the 3 ECU connectors, connected the one ECU adapter cable to programmer. Copied factory tune.

You then plug it back into laptop and it automatically uploads the tune , you then fill out a simple google form.

I sent mind in Sunday midday and got it back Wednesday afternoon. They did forgot to include the eboost add on but I simply responded to the tune email and the had it updated and sent back in a couple hours.

Tuning process is the same as reading factory tune.

5 Star tune definitely feels like it has more power especially in the top end, will compare when I get time to swap back and forth but I think 5 star runs a higher max boost.

Only drove for 10 minutes but didn’t notice any changes related to EV.

Does anyone have any specific Pids to monitor besides State of charge?

 

[PBoost]

Curious if anyone has heard of any new information on the 2023 flash tune progress from any of the vendors? Thanks

 

[Samson16]

It’s fascinating what you guys are able to do with programming. If I remember from youtube the experimental Livernois PB tune added 100hp 100ft/lb. At that power level how do you keep it cool? It’s already a factor when towing heavy with stock power. Tire/wheel choice and suspension become crucial. What about the 105mph speed limiter? That’s a joke at stock power. Balanced drive shaft needed? And to what end? Drag strip? Road performance? Desert runner? Rock crawler? Tow horse?

 

[astrand1]

I have a 22 PB with the livernois tuner. I have mine set on the 87-93 towing tune w/e-boost. So what it does is gives you the full battery from a dead stop (assuming it has charge). Normally that little bar that shows your ev threshold is very narrow from a stop. And as you speed up it gets bigger. Makes it hard to accelerate from a stop in electric. Their tune allows for you to have full electric power from a stop. So now I can go from a dead stop all the way up to maybe 40-50mph depending on state of charge of my battery in full electric. And not at a snails pace either. In stop and go traffic or in town it’s quite nice. I’ve gained better mileage this way. They don’t change the threshold of what ford allows for the useable amount of energy in the batt. But they just give you full use all the way down to 41% (I have a scangauge that shows percentage) on the stock tune ford starts pulling back at around 45% and then you can run it down to 41% but it’s hard to. I like it.

 

[Samson16]

I have a 22 PB with the livernois tuner. I have mine set on the 87-93 towing tune w/e-boost. So what it does is gives you the full battery from a dead stop (assuming it has charge). Normally that little bar that shows your ev threshold is very narrow from a stop. And as you speed up it gets bigger. Makes it hard to accelerate from a stop in electric. Their tune allows for you to have full electric power from a stop. So now I can go from a dead stop all the way up to maybe 40-50mph depending on state of charge of my battery in full electric. And not at a snails pace either. In stop and go traffic or in town it’s quite nice. I’ve gained better mileage this way. They don’t change the threshold of what ford allows for the useable amount of energy in the batt. But they just give you full use all the way down to 41% (I have a scangauge that shows percentage) on the stock tune ford starts pulling back at around 45% and then you can run it down to 41% but it’s hard to. I like it.

That's interesting. 100hp/100ft.lb. power increase and unfettered HVB use down to 41%?
I used to do the little tricks to maximize electric only propulsion and then I realized I needed to let it idle more on the back end in order to keep a nice charge on the HVB so I stopped tapping the brakes or accelerating carefully. I'm curious how much the increased boost pressures add to the heat load. Tow haul mode maximizes HVB SOC where the tune you describe minimizes it.

Perhaps the 87-93 towing tune w/e-boost is only mildly aggressive with regard to ignition and valve timing? More of a refined tune rather than trying to wring every drop of HP out of it?

You like it, and that's the bottom line for me. Thanks for sharing.

 

[DT444T]

My god I want this so badly. But I'm not doing ANYTHING to jeopardize my warranty. I've got the 140,000 mile warranty and I blew up my last truck at 78,000 miles with a tune on it. And the fear that a dealer could void it is enough to deter me.

 

[astrand1]

That's interesting. 100hp/100ft.lb. power increase and unfettered HVB use down to 41%?
I used to do the little tricks to maximize electric only propulsion and then I realized I needed to let it idle more on the back end in order to keep a nice charge on the HVB so I stopped tapping the brakes or accelerating carefully. I'm curious how much the increased boost pressures add to the heat load. Tow haul mode maximizes HVB SOC where the tune you describe minimizes it.

Perhaps the 87-93 towing tune w/e-boost is only mildly aggressive with regard to ignition and valve timing? More of a refined tune rather than trying to wring every drop of HP out of it?

You like it, and that's the bottom line for me. Thanks for sharing.

Well the strategy that the pcm uses to keep the SOC where it wants is unchanged. All this does is give you full use of whatever your SOC is from a stop. I watch my scan gauge while driving weather towing or just normal driving it really likes to keep the SOC pretty low. Like around 43-45% from what I can see. If I work it right I can get it up above 50% and then I will see mpg increase a little. I have this fancy tuner but I don’t drive it hard really ever. There are times here and there where I’ll put it to the rug and this thing is like a rocket. But I don’t race it or anything like that. I’m 90% driving it for mileage. And I’m usually above 800miles to a tank and in the 27-29mpg range which ain’t bad for a 6k brick that can tow 12k. ?

 

[Samson16]

And I’m usually above 800miles to a tank and in the 27-29mpg range which ain’t bad for a 6k brick that can tow 12k. ?

That’s quite a bit higher than my average. Do you remember your pre-tuned mpg? Comparing my low twenties to your high twenties involves too many variables to be relevant imo.
fyi I love this truck too ?. I was recently in the Blue Ridge and I found out why it can run hot under heavy loads and it’s because it is so incredibly strong it felt effortless accelerating to 90mph up and over a long 7% grade.

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