Speakers-best bang for the buck

[Graygoose2021]

If you have a factory upgraded system, sometimes even non-amplified, the manufactures put an EQ setting in there, you may not like. Like a rev limiter when you wanna go fast.
To flatten that, a term meant for flatten the curve so you can boost, to change the low mad/midrange/tweeter to your own likings.
Research bass roll off. Some manufactures add that to stop form blowing your speakers, by adding limits.
Kinda like GM's torque management, it pulls timing and power on hard accelerations, to reduce the shock to your transmission and rear-end, to not cause damages.
A flat signal allows you to tailor it the way YOU want it to sound.

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[F150Platinum22]

Thanks for the updated configs. After spending a few hours in the truck yesterday looking at houses it was made apparent that the Sync 4 alerts such as pre-collision are insanely loud with the flat output enabled. Had someone drift into my lane nearly clipping the bumper and the alert went off, startling the bajesus out of us. The welcome chimes while louder are not as obnoxious as the alerts are though. I also noticed that the mid and high ranges are significantly boosted causing it to sound rather tinny on the majority of songs played. I messed with the EQ from Spotify and on the truck sound but was unable to get it leveled out. It might be the due to the Kicker speakers I went with or just needed more time spent fiddling with it. Unfortunately I might not know as my wife requested I reverted the ACM back to the previous state because of how loud the alert was.

I am curious about changing the output of the center speaker to tweeter only to see what difference it makes with the ACM set to 901. I would be worried about long term damage to the voice coil for that speaker if this setting acts like a cross-over and blocks the 400-2K frequency range to that channel. If that is what this setting does then it might be worth just putting a 1" dome there if enabled or leave the setting along and put a two way coax there instead. As it sits now when on all speaker output you cant really hear the center at all. Sound is there and you can tell a slight difference when covering the speaker grill, but it's not much. Only when switching to front speakers only setting does it push more power to the dash so you can hear it.

Oh almost forgot, did you need a speaker adapter for the 3.5" and what harness adapter did you use for it?

I was checking your info about speakers, I have a 22 with the B&O unleashed, 18 speaker, I'm getting conflicting stories about weather changing out the factory door speakers alone would be a positive outcome with that system. The fronts are from the DSP/AMP, and the rears come off the head unit, all 4 ohm, and the A pillar tweeters are from the head unit and are 8 ohm, I'm told.
Is your system the same, any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Porpoise Hork]

I was checking your info about speakers, I have a 22 with the B&O unleashed, 18 speaker, I'm getting conflicting stories about weather changing out the factory door speakers alone would be a positive outcome with that system. The fronts are from the DSP/AMP, and the rears come off the head unit, all 4 ohm, and the A pillar tweeters are from the head unit and are 8 ohm, I'm told.
Is your system the same, any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.

Upgrading the factory speakers in most cases will improve clarity and mid-bass output. It mostly depends on if the replacement speakers are in the correct RMS power range for the system as well as having a decently high efficiency rating. Most aftermarket speakers suffer from lower efficiency ratings than OEM's, due to their higher power handling ability causing them to sometimes not sound as good as factory. Choosing speakers that have a wide power range but also work well in low powered systems will almost always sound better than stock once dialed in. The speakers I chose for the F150 have decently low RMS and minimum power requirements well suited to run off a factory head unit without an amp. Other things can also be done to improve mid-bass like adding sound mat and foam pads behind the speakers. That's what I did on my Ranger with B&O since it already sounded good but lacked mid-bass. Just adding sound mat mate a world of difference on that truck compared to the absolute crap sounding oem speakers in the base F150 sound system.

Since mine has the standard sound system in it the doors are 4 ohm, but I don't know about the pillar tweeters since I never messed with those.

 

[F150Platinum22]

Upgrading the factory speakers in most cases will improve clarity and mid-bass output. It mostly depends on if the replacement speakers are in the correct RMS power range for the system as well as having a decently high efficiency rating. Most aftermarket speakers suffer from lower efficiency ratings than OEM's, due to their higher power handling ability causing them to sometimes not sound as good as factory. The speakers I chose for the F150 have decently low RMS and minimum power requirements well suited to run off a factory head unit without an amp. Other things can also be done to improve mid-bass like adding sound mat and foam pads behind the speakers. That's what I did on my Ranger with B&O since it already sounded good but lacked mid-bass. Just adding sound mat mate a world of difference on that truck compared to the absolute crap sounding oem speakers in the base F150 sound system.

Since mine has the standard sound system in it the doors are 4 ohm, but I don't know about the pillar tweeters since I never messed with those.

Thanks for the quick response, so were your front stock 6x9's a coaxial type that run with the A pillar tweeters, and you added a 3 way to just the door?
I'm having install shops tell me all different shops, so I have been researching on here, and with Crutchfield, but they don't have a ton of research on the newer systems yet.

 

[Graygoose2021]

Im doing a 6.75" component set, mid in door and tweeter in A pillar.
You can do a 6x9 midbass, and tweeter as well.

https://www.kicker.com/47KSS690

 

[Porpoise Hork]

Thanks for the quick response, so were your front stock 6x9's a coaxial type that run with the A pillar tweeters, and you added a 3 way to just the door?
I'm having install shops tell me all different shops, so I have been researching on here, and with Crutchfield, but they don't have a ton of research on the newer systems yet.

All the speakers in the non B&O are single paper cone style. The B&O has coax in the front's only. Or at least that's how the Ranger was. Unfortunately Crutchfield still doesn't list 6x9's for the 21+ F150's despite it being nearly 3 years since the 14th gen was launched.

Im doing a 6.75" component set, mid in door and tweeter in A pillar.
You can do a 6x9 midbass, and tweeter as well.

https://www.kicker.com/47KSS690

I originally went with 6.75's in all doors but that resulted in practically no low end at all. Needless to say I was very unimpressed with that so I upgraded the fronts to KICKER DSC6930 6x9s and that made a HUGE improvement in the bass output. The increase in the mids and highs from this set was so impressive that I decided to leave the A-pillars alone.

 

[Mosey]

I can confirm the A-pillar tweeters, as well as the center dash, are 8 ohms. I installed Infinity Ref all around with 6x9s in the front doors. The OEM rears had magnets the size of a half dollar.

 

[F150Platinum22]

All the speakers in the non B&O are single paper cone style. The B&O has coax in the front's only. Or at least that's how the Ranger was. Unfortunately Crutchfield still doesn't list 6x9's for the 21+ F150's despite it being nearly 3 years since the 14th gen was launched.



I originally went with 6.75's in all doors but that resulted in practically no low end at all. Needless to say I was very unimpressed with that so I upgraded the fronts to KICKER DSC6930 6x9s and that made a HUGE improvement in the bass output. The increase in the mids and highs from this set was so impressive that I decided to leave the A-pillars alone.

Thank you for the info, I may check out the kickers.

I can confirm the A-pillar tweeters, as well as the center dash, are 8 ohms. I installed Infinity Ref all around with 6x9s in the front doors. The OEM rears had magnets the size of a half dollar.

Thanks, so did you put components in the front doors with matched a pillars? And are you on the 18 speaker unleashed, with no aftermarket amps, if so how is your new sound.
Thanks again for your responses, have been trying to find someone that’s done what I’d like to do.

 

[astrand1]

Got got these. Plug and play. And not expensive. Have not put them in yet as I was waiting for it to warm up a bit. Also going to dyno-mat the doors while panels are off.

Powerbass OE69C-FD 6x9 OEM... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DWHP1RM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

PowerBass OE652-FD - 6.5" Ford... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DWF9DX1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

 

[F150Platinum22]

Got got these. Plug and play. And not expensive. Have not put them in yet as I was waiting for it to warm up a bit. Also going to dyno-mat the doors while panels are off.

Powerbass OE69C-FD 6x9 OEM... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DWHP1RM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

PowerBass OE652-FD - 6.5" Ford... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DWF9DX1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Those look pretty nice, let us know how they sound, d you have the 18 speaker Unleashed?

 

[astrand1]

Those look pretty nice, let us know how they sound, d you have the 18 speaker Unleashed?

No. Standard non amplified. I figure these gotta be better than the paper crap the factory puts in. I have added the ford kicker sub and it hits pretty good. I wish I had a bit more control on it but I’m going to try some of these acm settings and see what changes.

 

[Mosey]

Thank you for the info, I may check out the kickers.

Thanks, so did you put components in the front doors with matched a pillars? And are you on the 18 speaker unleashed, with no aftermarket amps, if so how is your new sound.
Thanks again for your responses, have been trying to find someone that’s done what I’d like to do.

I did replace the tweeters, and center speaker as well. I have the standard 7 speaker non-amplified system. And yes, it does sound much better. But they only sound better for the first couple of days and then I just got use to them, so now they sound normal. Base, while not great, is much improved over stock.

 

[calibo12]

Got got these. Plug and play. And not expensive. Have not put them in yet as I was waiting for it to warm up a bit. Also going to dyno-mat the doors while panels are off.

Powerbass OE69C-FD 6x9 OEM... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DWHP1RM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

PowerBass OE652-FD - 6.5" Ford... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DWF9DX1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Have you installed these yet? I'm looking at the Kicker speakers or these. Base sound system is just plain awful

 

[astrand1]

Have you installed these yet? I'm looking at the Kicker speakers or these. Base sound system is just plain awful

Have had them for a hot minute. Got them a couple months ago but was waiting for weather to warm up to do the swap. I’ll probably do it later this next week. I also got some dynomat stuff to put in the doors. I’ll report once I get them in. I gotta imagine they will be better than the stock paper crap. Plus the rear door speakers are 2 way with a built in tweeter so that should help the rear area with better sound.

 

[calibo12]

Have had them for a hot minute. Got them a couple months ago but was waiting for weather to warm up to do the swap. I’ll probably do it later this next week. I also got some dynomat stuff to put in the doors. I’ll report once I get them in. I gotta imagine they will be better than the stock paper crap. Plus the rear door speakers are 2 way with a built in tweeter so that should help the rear area with better sound.

No worries. I had some money burning a hole in my amazon wallet...theyll be here this week. May try to install before I leave on Monday.
Now I need to order some dynamat/sound deadening to install at the same time. Anyone know if there is a big difference between all the different brands?

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