Ford accessories remote start to replace FordPass?

[Greg2561]

Has anyone bought the old fashioned remote start system? The Ford Pass app is complete hot garbage and only starts/works half the time. Need something more reliable. I see Ford sells a real remote start on the accessories site for roughly $200.

I bought this kit for my county F-150 and it works perfectly. Super easy to install, plug and play.

https://www.amazon.com/Start-X-Remo...mzn1.fos.18630bbb-fcbb-42f8-9767-857e17e03685

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[JExpedition07]

I messed with the plugs behind the rear seat after folding it down. Just pushed them together harder, truck came back online immediately after

 

[1985ns]

Try googling the website 12 volt solutions. They make sweet plug and play remote starters that use your existing key fob and NO wire splicing. Their customer service is also A1. Installed a couple systems. Highly recommend seeing if they make one for the F150. Their site has a lookup tool.

 

[780]

If you think FordPass is bad now, just wait. It’s about to get worse. . . .

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SSM 51379 2021-2023 F-150/Transit, 2022-2023 F-150 Lightning - Discontinued Features In FordPass

Some 2021-2023 F-150/Transit, 2022-2023 F-150 Lightning vehicles may experience issues utilizing the Smart Hitch, ProPower Onboard or Onboard Scales features (if equipped) in the FordPass app. Symptoms may include inability to connect, incorrect data displayed in the app, no weight displayed, unable to power on/off the feature, unable to turn on generator mode (gas vehicles only). The connection for these features has been removed from the Android version of the FordPass app, and will soon be removed from the iOS version. The Smart Hitch and Onboard Scales will also be removed in a future FordPass release expected no later than March 1st, 2023. Full functionality of these features will remain in vehicle, but will not be controllable from FordPass. Advise the customer of the FordPass changes and do not perform any repairs for this concern.

My smart hitch and onboard scales haven't worked on FordPass since day 1.

 

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My smart hitch and onboard scales haven't worked on FordPass since day 1.

It appears those have been removed, at least on mine. I never actually used them with the app, so I guess I'm not missing anything?

 

[780]

It appears those have been removed, at least on mine. I never actually used them with the app, so I guess I'm not missing anything?

I just checked after reading your message, and mine have been removed from FordPass as well.

 

[oncechance]

Unfortunately not for XL and lower XLT, the remote start resides in Ford pass. My vehicle constantly disconnects from the app and cannot make contact. They sell a single button remote start fob and I was wondering if I can override/ get rid of the Ford Pass and wire an old fashioned one into the truck.

I don’t trust FordPass, as soon as the software hits a few years old you know Ford will just stop supporting it. With a wired in remote start once installed you are good to go forever lol.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this but my 2022 XLT has a remote start button on the FOB.

 

[ReverendQ]

I had Ford’s “Perimeter Plus Security System” (ML3Z19A361A) installed on my truck by the dealer just last week so that I would have remote start from the key fob.

I had used the Ford Pass app to start the truck with no issues but I don’t usually carry my cell phone. I have an Apple watch that is connected to cellular networks. I can make and receive phone calls on the watch. I’m retired so I don’t get a lot of phone calls.

Ford Pass has a watch app that provides remote start but it doesn’t work unless I have the cell phone with me even though the watch is connected to the cellular network.

I bought the Perimeter Security Plus accessory from Waldorf Ford in Maryland. Waldorf had the lowest price. Total cost with shipping was $192.

I was going to install it myself but after viewing the installation procedure on YouTube () for a 2021 F150 I decided that dealer installation was a better option.

The installation procedure for 2021 trucks is different from previous models in that the module does not install at the ODBC port but on the APIM which is located behind the climate controls. This requires dismantling the dash in order to gain access the the installation location as the video shows.

The technician and service writer did not know that the installation had changed and told me that my dash camera, which is daisy chained to the ODBC, port had to be disconnected and that I would need to find other options for the camera.

I told the dealer reps that the installation location had changed. They told me that according to my VIN the module attached to the OBDC port. They would not even look at the YouTube video that was produced by a Ford Dealer showing the correct installation.

After three hours they came back and told me that the module was installed and the camera was working and maybe I was right about the installation.

I have no issues with the dealership. They have always made whatever I had problems with right and satisfactory.

While I was there, they did the wiper recall and found that the part number for my wiper motor was not one of the motors that needed replaced.

Total cost for the installation was $64.

Starting the truck with the key fob required a “lock” “unlock” “lock” key press on the fob. The truck starts immediately. Use the same key sequence to stop the engine.

I tested the system from in my house about 70 feet from the truck in the garage. The truck started. The Ford Pass app showed it as running with 10 minutes until shutoff.

@Tim, I installed it myself BUT I cannot get it working for the alarm. Does the alarm portion of yours work? And if so, do you happen to know how it was learned to the truck assuming you have push button start? And do you happen to know corresponding FORScan code changes? Allot I know but may you or somebody else on the forums can help me. Thanks.

 

[NH North Woods]

Today I installed a remote start module (Ford ML3Z-19A361-A) in my 2023 F-150 STX. I am used to having remote start on my fob and not a real fan of using FordPass. After installation, I can't get the remote start to work via the fob, lock, unlock, lock. The alarm part of it works, as I was able to get that to go off, it starts with FordPass, but not with the fob. I checked all modules via FORscan and there are 4 or 5 modules that have the remote start listed, in plain english formats, and remote start is enabled in all locations. Any ideas that I might be missing?

Thanks in advance!

 

[fordtruckman2003]

Today I installed a remote start module (Ford ML3Z-19A361-A) in my 2023 F-150 STX. I am used to having remote start on my fob and not a real fan of using FordPass. After installation, I can't get the remote start to work via the fob, lock, unlock, lock. The alarm part of it works, as I was able to get that to go off, it starts with FordPass, but not with the fob. I checked all modules via FORscan and there are 4 or 5 modules that have the remote start listed, in plain english formats, and remote start is enabled in all locations. Any ideas that I might be missing?

Thanks in advance!

That part number is an alarm not remote start.

 

[NH North Woods]

That part number is an alarm not remote start.

I bought from Fairway Ford on eBay and it says it's a remote start and alarm. The book that came with has all info for remote start.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185578758100

 

[JExpedition07]

The accessories site says the perimeter plus system is required so looks like you got at least a piece.

 

[tony72cutlass's']

Unfortunately not for XL and lower XLT, the remote start resides in Ford pass. My vehicle constantly disconnects from the app and cannot make contact. They sell a single button remote start fob and I was wondering if I can override/ get rid of the Ford Pass and wire an old fashioned one into the truck.

I don’t trust FordPass, as soon as the software hits a few years old you know Ford will just stop supporting it. With a wired in remote start once installed you are good to go forever lol.

Have you seen those OBD plug in jobbies that you hit lock 3 times or something and it starts? I’m also PO’d at the fordpass app especially when it’s 10F outside up here

 

[tony72cutlass's']

Mine doesn’t connect anywhere. Even the navigation has the no cloud icon and tells me it has no connection to the internet. Has not connected to the FordPass app in 2 days. This makes me believe the modem has went belly up based on my reading. I’ve tried resetting sync, logging out, restarting phone. Nothing makes it connect.

I was just mad because the day of a huge ice storm remote start wouldn’t work. Also really don’t want to leave the truck at the dealer for a week to get this sorted out while I have to pay for a rental car lol. I’m wondering if I should just give it a week and see if it sorts itself out.

try this, i noticed if I don’t completely close the app then it won’t work, if I shut the app down and restart it then it almost always starts

so if I remote start before work and leave the app open, if I then try to remote start at lunch it almost never works, shutting the app down and restarting then seems to start the truck

 

[JExpedition07]

Have you seen those OBD plug in jobbies that you hit lock 3 times or something and it starts? I’m also PO’d at the fordpass app especially when it’s 10F outside up here

I never chased after this, not that I won’t still. I think first things first we need to help NH Northwoods to see if it works!

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