Adding Co-Pilot Assist 2.0 with Forscan?

[superfordman]

So then it begs the question, if you were to add an APIM with nav could you get it to work. On another F150 Forum, I was reading and posting about adding nav to an xlt. It may work to get an APIM from a 21 that had nav, add the gps antenna to the roof, with a splitter and get it all to work.

I was going to suggest the same yesterday, but he has no interest in IACC, just wants to see everything work correctly more or less, so with that being said no reason to upgrade the APIM. It could be done though relatively easily, just need to add those components and get everything working.

Nice. Thanks for posting that chart. So hard to tell what the differences are in the different CP versions.

Now just to figure out what I need to do to get Blue Cruise and active Park assist functional

Under features you should have the cruise control menu and can enable things there if your truck is already equipped. Blue Cruise can be added, but not sure if it was here or on another thread, but those guys almost don't like it as much due to the nanny cams that watch you "all the time." Even when not using BC and just using lane centering, they are still watching, and judging...

I even considered adding it to mine and playing around with it, but once I learned that, it was an easy hard no. I just use lane centering with the weight hack whenever I can, and it is mind blowingly impressive. I was driving a Tesla all last week and the lane centering part is just as good as theirs, if not maybe a smidge better in certain situations, but I'm prly just being biased there. I actually considering taking my weight with me, and should have, because it always reminds you to nudge the wheel (yoke in my case ?), not as bad as the Ford does though luckily, ~45 second versus ~10 seconds it seemed like.

Active Park is another one we're working on and have a thread on it as well, mainly due to the guys that had it deleted as well, but in some instances all the hardware is there, just doesn't seem to be enabled.

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[BascoNate22]

I just noticed my auto high beams weren't working after enabling the speed sign recognition... Did y'all see this happen?

Just as @superfordman said above, my auto high beams are also working just fine. I would recommend finding the module that controls the auto high beams and start by simply resetting it to see if maybe that does the trick. Do you see any DTC's that are related to the lights?

 

[Doughecka]

Just as @superfordman said above, my auto high beams are also working just fine. I would recommend finding the module that controls the auto high beams and start by simply resetting it to see if maybe that does the trick. Do you see any DTC's that are related to the lights?

Well, I figured out that the headlights just weren't set to 'auto' (but just 'on'), which apparently turns off auto-high beams. I thought the light setting reset back to auto eventually, but I guess not.
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[XLT22]

Couple of questions I haven't seen answered:

Since I have a brand new CCM, is a PMI in FDRS required or will updating the VIN in FORSCAN be enough? Parts finally came in and I'll start on this tomorrow.

I'll be helping someone do this on another 22 XLT but it will require running a wire from the bumper to the cab. For those that have done this, what size wire did you use? I have 4-conductor 22awg jacketed available to use for free. Running it through the firewall shouldn't be an issue, but neither of us could get our neanderthal hands through the cavity or under the driver side dash to actually unplug that connector. Luckily had a mirror handy.

 

[PFXLT]

Couple of questions I haven't seen answered:

Since I have a brand new CCM, is a PMI in FDRS required or will updating the VIN in FORSCAN be enough? Parts finally came in and I'll start on this tomorrow.

I'll be helping someone do this on another 22 XLT but it will require running a wire from the bumper to the cab. For those that have done this, what size wire did you use? I have 4-conductor 22awg jacketed available to use for free. Running it through the firewall shouldn't be an issue, but neither of us could get our neanderthal hands through the cavity or under the driver side dash to actually unplug that connector. Luckily had a mirror handy.

pretty sure I read both of those can be accomplished with forscan. I believe the pmi involves driving around for a certain amount of time.

 

[superfordman]

Couple of questions I haven't seen answered:

Since I have a brand new CCM, is a PMI in FDRS required or will updating the VIN in FORSCAN be enough? Parts finally came in and I'll start on this tomorrow.

I'll be helping someone do this on another 22 XLT but it will require running a wire from the bumper to the cab. For those that have done this, what size wire did you use? I have 4-conductor 22awg jacketed available to use for free. Running it through the firewall shouldn't be an issue, but neither of us could get our neanderthal hands through the cavity or under the driver side dash to actually unplug that connector. Luckily had a mirror handy.

I used a brand new CCM eventually and just loaded my VIN through forscan and that's all I did. Those are the only values in the module so not much else to do. I didn't have FDRS yet at the time either so that's all I had to work with.

22 gauge is just right as that is what the factory size calls for.

 

[BascoNate22]

Couple of questions I haven't seen answered:

Since I have a brand new CCM, is a PMI in FDRS required or will updating the VIN in FORSCAN be enough? Parts finally came in and I'll start on this tomorrow.

I'll be helping someone do this on another 22 XLT but it will require running a wire from the bumper to the cab. For those that have done this, what size wire did you use? I have 4-conductor 22awg jacketed available to use for free. Running it through the firewall shouldn't be an issue, but neither of us could get our neanderthal hands through the cavity or under the driver side dash to actually unplug that connector. Luckily had a mirror handy.

I also used a brand new CCM. All that I had to do was update the VIN in the CCM and run the calibration of the CCM using forscan. It reqired me to drive around for about 10 minutes, but thats about it.

 

[personalt]

Functionally what is the difference between the intelligent and non intelligent version? Are we just talking about being able to change the set speed based on speed limit signs? Or is the differences more?

@XLT22 @superfordman
I appreciate all the feedback. Sounds like we are still mostly at the same point we have been for a little while now. I can confirm that lane centering, traffic jam assist, evasive steering assistance, speed sign recognition, adaptive cruise control are all possible. I have enabled them on my 22 XLT 302A and they work flawlessly.

The only thing I don’t have working yet is iacc. I don’t plan on using iacc so I have it turned off at the moment and am more than happy with acc and the rest of the suite of options. I am still trying to get iacc worked out though because I don’t like having codes in my truck. I haven’t had much luck with the variety of things I have tried, but if I find a solution I will update you all.

As far as I know, on MY22 trucks, the co-pilot assist 2.0 package was only offered as long as the vehicle had connected nav. Because of this, all as built data that can be referenced has the iacc working in conjunction with the connected nav. Currently my ipma error says that it is missing input data from my apim. This makes sense because the ipma is looking for a nav input from the apim to make iacc function correctly. Seeing as all 22 trucks with this package required nav I am on the fence whether or not iacc is possible.

Sorry for the long post, but I just figured I would update you with my experience and what I have discovered so far.

 

[BascoNate22]

Functionally what is the difference between the intelligent and non intelligent version? Are we just talking about being able to change the set speed based on speed limit signs? Or is the differences more?

You are correct. Functionally, the only difference is that the intelligent version adapts the truck's cruise control speed based on the speed limit signs that it reads. As far as I am aware that is the only difference.

 

[AdamsCoyote]

There is ALOT you need to change, you need to change certain addresses before the CCM will even power/show up usually. I'll message you my sheet.

Is it possible to get this as well? I'm attempting this and right now the module isn't showing in Forscan or FDRS

 

[PFXLT]

Still waiting on my adaptive cruise parts so I went ahead and enabled the speed limit function in the IPMA/IPC/APIM. It works the same as my wife's vehicle that has a nav system by updating the moment you go by a sign. Obviously when the IACC is enabled some of these values will need to change.

APIM changes
7D0-09-02 change 2nd digit 2nd column to 5 (TSR NCAP)
7D0-09-02 change 2nd digit 3rd column to D (TSR NCAP Enable)


IPC changes
720-09-01 change 1st digit 3rd column to 8 (SLIF)
720-03-01 change 2nd digit 1st column to 4 (TSR IOD)


IPMA changes
706-01-01 change 3rd digit 1st column to 4 (TSR)
706-02-01 change 1st digit 1st column to 5 (TSR Mode Camera Only)

thanks for this info, I too am waiting on installing the ccm but got my speed sign recognition working with these settings.
question I have though, you say change 706-02-01 to a 5 but that’s not even an option on the spreadsheet. What made you land on that value?

 

[superfordman]

Is it possible to get this as well? I'm attempting this and right now the module isn't showing in Forscan or FDRS

Do you have the CCM installed?

 

[superfordman]

thanks for this info, I too am waiting on installing the ccm but got my speed sign recognition working with these settings.
question I have though, you say change 706-02-01 to a 5 but that’s not even an option on the spreadsheet. What made you land on that value?

Look at my sheet. It's a combination address where it adds the next one as well. I.E. 4+1 = 5 for camera only.

 

[AdamsCoyote]

Do you have the CCM installed?

Yeah, new bumper harness and CCM installed, VIN entered into the CCM via FORScan, and I compared by (501a) as-built against a 502a from an Auto Trader ad, changed the things that made sense to me (I don't have things like the 360 camera, active parking aid, etc. that it has), and ran the CCM calibration. However at this point:

• Error message to service AdvanceTrac
• Error message that pre-collision assist unavailable
• Trying to turn on cruise control says adaptive cruse unavailable. Doesn't help to set the option under Driver Assistance to standard cruise (gives the same error, plus then warns me that standard cruise mode is on, adaptive braking is disabled)
• Can't change drive modes (I assume this is from the AdvanceTrac error)
• Two DTC's in the ABS module, FDRS says incompatible config

Ultimately I'm trying to get to IACC and lane centering

Thank you for your help! There's so much info in this thread

 

[superfordman]

Yeah, new bumper harness and CCM installed, VIN entered into the CCM via FORScan, and I compared by (501a) as-built against a 502a from an Auto Trader ad, changed the things that made sense to me (I don't have things like the 360 camera, active parking aid, etc. that it has), and ran the CCM calibration. However at this point:

• Error message to service AdvanceTrac
• Error message that pre-collision assist unavailable
• Trying to turn on cruise control says adaptive cruse unavailable. Doesn't help to set the option under Driver Assistance to standard cruise (gives the same error, plus then warns me that standard cruise mode is on, adaptive braking is disabled)
• Can't change drive modes (I assume this is from the AdvanceTrac error)
• Two DTC's in the ABS module, FDRS says incompatible config

Ultimately I'm trying to get to IACC and lane centering

Thank you for your help! There's so much info in this thread

Gotcha, good deal, you're well on your way then. Sounds like you don't have everything changed just right. Are you using my sheet or one you put together yourself? I posted mine a ways back and I'd compare and use that to what you have. If you don't have all the exact right values in the right places, even just one wrong, you'll get the errors you're describing.

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