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I've officially gotten information overload, while coming up with a new business venture.

Tire Rentals. That would allow me to try out a P tire to see if it solved my problem without committing $1000.
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I had similar ride issues with my 9.5” axle and 6.5 ‘ bed. I put belstein 5100 shocks on the rear and tire pressure to 40 psi front. It made a huge difference. No more rockin and rollin down (wallowing)the state roads. I think the fronts could be better too. Bang for the buck is absolutely Change the rear shocks. Got 3 mpg bump too.
My truck did come with the Goodyear c rated off-road tires.
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So, there are two camps out there. The put on softer tires camp and the replace the shocks camp. Is it possible they both work equally and I just need to chose one to obtain a more passenger like ride when I hit a pothole or bump in the road?





























































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Some tire manufacturers like Toyo do a 45 day satisfaction guarantee. That might help soften the blow a little on your wallet. I’d confirm with your tire shop tho before purchase
 

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Maybe I missed something, but unless you got optional Load Range C tires (6 ply) which would show on your Window Sticker your truck already has P rated tires on it. They all come with P rated tires. And the OEM tires are AWFUL quality and only get ~25k miles of wear. They may say Goodyear or Pirelli on them, but they are softer, quieter, and have shorter lugs than the same model you'd buy at the tire shop. They're specially made for Ford, or Toyota, Chevy, etc. I doubt you'll find a softer/quieter tire than your factory ones.
 
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Maybe I missed something, but unless you got optional Load Range C tires (6 ply) which would show on your Window Sticker your truck already has P rated tires on it. They all come with P rated tires. And the OEM tires are AWFUL quality and only get ~25k miles of wear. They may say Goodyear or Pirelli on them, but they are softer, quieter, and have shorter lugs than the same model you'd buy at the tire shop. They're specially made for Ford, or Toyota, Chevy, etc. I doubt you'll find a softer/quieter tire than your factory ones.
I thought the P tires always were noted on the tire itself, P265. It seems some tires have a P before the 265 and others just say 265, and then there are LT tires.

Perhaps the issue is nothing more than Hankook tires from Ford suck, but the tires my last F150 had, Michelin, went for over three years, 60,000 miles and were great.
 

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I lived them factory Michelins on my 2012 F150. Wish they still handed those out!

I still have the truck too! And it's still on Michelins, of course the second set. :)

But even that truck needed aftermarket shocks shortly after acquisition. Oem F150 suspension is great for smooth roads and short test drives.
 

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But even that truck needed aftermarket shocks shortly after acquisition. Oem F150 suspension is great for smooth roads and short test drives.
That really bites that a $60,000 truck needs to have shocks put on immediately after purchase to make it ride properly
 

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Not if you are fortunate to live where the roads you primarily use are Buick friendly. :)

Folks don't complain about a heavy-duty truck riding like a truck. I suspect that's because purchasers of 3/4-1 ton trucks are truck folks.
1/2 ton trucks became a 4-door family friendly hauler and won many SUV owners over when they took their first test drive and commented to the salesman "wow, this thing doesn't ride like I thought (or remember) my dad's/grandpa's truck did"

Which is true. It doesn't.
Ram and Chevy have their 1/2 tons softly damped too. In fact, Ram dropped the leaf springs altogether. That "nice ride" has won over many.
 

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1/2 ton trucks became a 4-door family friendly hauler and won many SUV owners over when they took their first test drive and commented to the salesman "wow, this thing doesn't ride like I thought (or remember) my dad's/grandpa's truck did"
Bingo. And the factory P rated tires are extra light and soft to enhance the old Buick feeling... 1) peak acceleration and pep and 2) extra quiet and smooth ride

Personally, I found the super soft factory tires and underdamped struts/shocks terrifying around corners with so much body roll and essentially skipping across the pavement if cornering was push too far. I put on LT tires and coilovers/shocks at 1k miles and love it. But yeah, another $3k to get it ride better (more like a TRUCK for me - just my personal pref) was sobering.
 
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Not if you are fortunate to live where the roads you primarily use are Buick friendly. :)

Folks don't complain about a heavy-duty truck riding like a truck. I suspect that's because purchasers of 3/4-1 ton trucks are truck folks.
1/2 ton trucks became a 4-door family friendly hauler and won many SUV owners over when they took their first test drive and commented to the salesman "wow, this thing doesn't ride like I thought (or remember) my dad's/grandpa's truck did"

Which is true. It doesn't.
Ram and Chevy have their 1/2 tons softly damped too. In fact, Ram dropped the leaf springs altogether. That "nice ride" has won over many.
Since this is my second truck, I compare from the first, and that F150 had a passenger like ride on my very well paved roads. This second truck is just harsher than the first and while I selected features the first did not have, long bed and Maxtow, I must say, the ride just ruins the drive. Every time I come across a bump or a pothole, which is inevitable, I cringe as I wait for the jarring attitude from the truck.

I see Bridgestone also had a satisfaction guarantee, so I'm thinking I will put a pair of Alenza AS Ultras on at Costco and take advantage of their satisfaction guarantee. If I don't achieve a proper passenger car ride from the new tires, I'll have them removed and buy the Bilstein shocks.
 

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If you cringe over potholes I'd definitely first start with the suspension. As I said above, when Ford, Chevy, Toyota, whomever contracts any tire manufacturer to build OEM tires, their priorities are soft ride (thin sidewalls), peak acceleration (thin sidewalks, lightest/thinnest possible materials), and quiet ride (slightly shorter lugs). I really don't think you can find a softer tire. The "jarring" is more likely from underdamped shocks and struts, which can deflect and chatter over anything other than brand new asphalt. Bilsteins, Fox, Eibachs, whatever are more refined and well-rounded products. The ride will be firmer (and less body roll), but I bet you'll feel a lot more noticeable change if you head straight to the suspension aisle.
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