3% Under Invoice 2022 F-150 Order - Granger Ford

[futuretrunks]

I wish you or @dealerinsider would offer 3-5% under invoice on Raptors for like a two day period and only message me so I can buy my dream truck ha ha ha I’ll keep dreaming lol

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[TN Rotty]

I called Chip at Granger and he gave me an order sheet with pricing, like he has for many others.

I then sent an email to the local dealer requesting pricing for the truck I had ordered. The initial agreement was left blank cause the “MY21 pricing is different than MY22 pricing.” The local dealership said MSRP was my price. I said that wasn’t good enough. They countered that I had agreed to an MSRP sales price when I signed the agreement. I don‘t remember that ever being discussed.

So I placed a separate order for the exact same truck with Chip at Granger this afternoon.

I understand I’ll be eating the deposit I put down with the local dealer. My only concern is that they might try and force me to buy the truck based on the purchase agreement. The truck is either already built or being built this week.

Am I on the hook for the original order other than losing my deposit?

I would think you would just lose your deposit. "I understood that if I didn't purchase the truck, I'd lose my deposit."

The dealership gains a truck at a much faster pace than stock orders, your deposit, and can now sell it to anyone they want at a marked up price, potentially. With F150s being so scarce now, it should not be a problem for them to sell the vehicle.

Of course I'm not a lawyer and anyone can charge anyone else for anything it seems these days. (Putting a hot cup of coffee between the legs while driving comes to mind.) Anyone else have any experience on this in CO or elsewhere?

 

[coloradobrandon]

I called Chip at Granger and he gave me an order sheet with pricing, like he has for many others.

I then sent an email to the local dealer requesting pricing for the truck I had ordered. The initial agreement was left blank cause the “MY21 pricing is different than MY22 pricing.” The local dealership said MSRP was my price. I said that wasn’t good enough. They countered that I had agreed to an MSRP sales price when I signed the agreement. I don‘t remember that ever being discussed.

So I placed a separate order for the exact same truck with Chip at Granger this afternoon.

I understand I’ll be eating the deposit I put down with the local dealer. My only concern is that they might try and force me to buy the truck based on the purchase agreement. The truck is either already built or being built this week.

Am I on the hook for the original order other than losing my deposit?

Who is your local dealer…just out of curiousity? If you’re in the Denver metro area I would expect you wouldn’t have any difficulties getting out of the order. Personally, I’d try to ask for the deposit back - if you think they have not acted in good faith (doesn’t sound like it if the price was blank) and see what they say. Vehicles are in such short supply now locally The dealers are looking for anything they can get on their lot….and sell MSRP or above.

I’ve done a few orders now across dkfferent makes / models and have always had some sort of pricing structure agreed up front, if not a specific price. Either % above invoice or in the case of Granger % below. For the Mercedes GLE 450 I ordered a few years back I agreed on % above invoice and when the car arrived the invoice price actually dropped as it was at the end of the MY.

Other Ford dealers around here were willing to quote a specific % above invoice up front. So, I’d take the approach of:

“the contract has no agreed price or way to calculate the price. Cars are in high demand. Keep it, and return my deposit.”

The exception I see to the above is if you have a very unique build that would not be appealing to most buyers and would sit on the lot….but it is unlikely in the current market.

I’m sure others may have different / better advice.

 

[Franger]

Who is your local dealer…just out of curiousity? If you’re in the Denver metro area I would expect you wouldn’t have any difficulties getting out of the order. Personally, I’d try to ask for the deposit back - if you think they have not acted in good faith (doesn’t sound like it if the price was blank) and see what they say. Vehicles are in such short supply now locally The dealers are looking for anything they can get on their lot….and sell MSRP or above.

I’ve done a few orders now across dkfferent makes / models and have always had some sort of pricing structure agreed up front, if not a specific price. Either % above invoice or in the case of Granger % below. For the Mercedes GLE 450 I ordered a few years back I agreed on % above invoice and when the car arrived the invoice price actually dropped as it was at the end of the MY.

Other Ford dealers around here were willing to quote a specific % above invoice up front. So, I’d take the approach of:

“the contract has no agreed price or way to calculate the price. Cars are in high demand. Keep it, and return my deposit.”

The exception I see to the above is if you have a very unique build that would not be appealing to most buyers and would sit on the lot….but it is unlikely in the current market.

I’m sure others may have different / better advice.

It’s a pretty vanilla order, in my opinion. Thanks for the advice. The sales person was pretty adamant that I didn't have to take delivery, but all that matters is what’s in writing obviously.

Id rather not speak negatively of a dealer publicly, but if you really want to know which one, send me private message.

 

[sbi]

I called Chip at Granger and he gave me an order sheet with pricing, like he has for many others.

I then sent an email to the local dealer requesting pricing for the truck I had ordered. The initial agreement was left blank cause the “MY21 pricing is different than MY22 pricing.” The local dealership said MSRP was my price. I said that wasn’t good enough. They countered that I had agreed to an MSRP sales price when I signed the agreement. I don‘t remember that ever being discussed.

So I placed a separate order for the exact same truck with Chip at Granger this afternoon.

I understand I’ll be eating the deposit I put down with the local dealer. My only concern is that they might try and force me to buy the truck based on the purchase agreement. The truck is either already built or being built this week.

Am I on the hook for the original order other than losing my deposit?

Can't see how they can "force" you to buy something, however even if somehow they pull a legal magic the forces you to buy it, buy it and immediately sell. You'll make a profit on it in today's market.

 

[Ericcc]

Glad to help. Dearborn stopped production for 3 days and started back up again today due to a number of parts being short. Hopefully they can continue production without interruption and not end up with a slow down like this summer.

Good luck with your build.

I did change the order on Monday afternoon with Chip. Chip is a super nice guy to work with.

This morning I received a email from ford saying the production date is 2/14/2022 and giving the VIN.

Thanks again for the information you provided.

 

[Another Ford]

Was there no scheduling today?
Thanks

 

[coloradobrandon]

Has anyone from the Denver metro ordered from Granger and had the truck shipped / completed paperwork remotely? I have a ‘22 Lariat PB on order with Granger and trying to decide if it is worth the two days of time to fly and drive back….or if I should just have it shipped. Interested in both experiences. Likely will be taking delivery mid-Feb which is not an ideal time to make that drive — especially with the two kids the wife will be sending along if I try to escape!

Thrilled with Granger so far, just trying to work out getting the truck home once it arrives at Granger.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Wolf Man]

Has anyone from the Denver metro ordered from Granger and had the truck shipped / completed paperwork remotely? I have a ‘22 Lariat PB on order with Granger and trying to decide if it is worth the two days of time to fly and drive back….or if I should just have it shipped. Interested in both experiences. Likely will be taking delivery mid-Feb which is not an ideal time to make that drive — especially with the two kids the wife will be sending along if I try to escape!

Thrilled with Granger so far, just trying to work out getting the truck home once it arrives at Granger.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not in CO but I had my truck shipped to me in Las Vegas. You will have to make all of the shipping arrangements yourself and keep Granger in the loop but they were great and had my truck ready to go when the guy got there to pick it up. Get a hold of Chip and he'll let you know what he needs from you which is basically the name of the auto transport company, the name of the driver and actual name of the company that is moving your truck if possible and what time the driver expects to arrive. FWIW 99% of the transport companies are not the actual mover of your truck, they're the middle man that makes all of the arrangements. For several reasons I chose to have my truck shipped to me instead of flying out to get it myself. You can DM me if you want more details.

 

[Steeler]

I'm not in CO but I had my truck shipped to me in Las Vegas. You will have to make all of the shipping arrangements yourself and keep Granger in the loop but they were great and had my truck ready to go when the guy got there to pick it up. Get a hold of Chip and he'll let you know what he needs from you which is basically the name of the auto transport company, the name of the driver and actual name of the company that is moving your truck if possible and what time the driver expects to arrive. FWIW 99% of the transport companies are not the actual mover of your truck, they're the middle man that makes all of the arrangements. For several reasons I chose to have my truck shipped to me instead of flying out to get it myself. You can DM me if you want more details.

This is great info Wolf and I just sent you a DM. I never actually thought of having the truck shipped. I'm on Long Island, NY and the cost of flying out to IA and then doing that 1800 mile drive back home was stressing me out a bit because of the cost and the wear and tear on a brand new truck. Thanks again!

 

[Wolf Man]

This is great info Wolf and I just sent you a DM. I never actually thought of having the truck shipped. I'm on Long Island, NY and the cost of flying out to IA and then doing that 1800 mile drive back home was stressing me out a bit because of the cost and the wear and tear on a brand new truck. Thanks again!

Hey Steeler,

Yep, I'm with you. It was actually more for me to have it shipped instead of me going to get it myself but other than missing the opportunity to meet Chip & Zach it was pretty much stress free, in fact the entire process from ordering the truck from Granger to delivery was pretty much stress free although I do have to say the most stressful part was contacting a bunch of shippers and then choosing one. ?

Reply to DM sent.

Good Luck on whatever you decide to do!

 

[Wolf Man]

Just want to add for anyone that has ordered from Granger and considering having your truck shipped to you. They really prefer that you have your truck picked up in 2 weeks or less. It took me longer than that but I was lucky they were patient and didn't charge me storage fees. ? Just keep in touch and let them know what's going on. Thanks Zach & Chip!

 

[Another Ford]

Did I miss something on scheduling this week? Is there none?

 

[coloradobrandon]

I'm not in CO but I had my truck shipped to me in Las Vegas. You will have to make all of the shipping arrangements yourself and keep Granger in the loop but they were great and had my truck ready to go when the guy got there to pick it up. Get a hold of Chip and he'll let you know what he needs from you which is basically the name of the auto transport company, the name of the driver and actual name of the company that is moving your truck if possible and what time the driver expects to arrive. FWIW 99% of the transport companies are not the actual mover of your truck, they're the middle man that makes all of the arrangements. For several reasons I chose to have my truck shipped to me instead of flying out to get it myself. You can DM me if you want more details.

This is awesome info — really appreciate it! Thank you. Will likely send you a DM for some further details.

 

[smyph]

Has anyone from the Denver metro ordered from Granger and had the truck shipped / completed paperwork remotely? I have a ‘22 Lariat PB on order with Granger and trying to decide if it is worth the two days of time to fly and drive back….or if I should just have it shipped. Interested in both experiences. Likely will be taking delivery mid-Feb which is not an ideal time to make that drive — especially with the two kids the wife will be sending along if I try to escape!

Thrilled with Granger so far, just trying to work out getting the truck home once it arrives at Granger.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I'm in CO and in the same boat. Not sure what I will do yet.

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