Request VIN Lookup Thread

[rugedraw]

When the OTA expires....the theory is that my truck then gets tossed back into some queue...for an undetermined amount of time...?

And, so far, there seems to be not much rhyme or reason to "how to get an update pushed to my truck". In the past, I've gotten them parked in my garage (Ford cellular? Wifi? dunno), and other times when on vacation camping (had to be Ford cellular) in another state.

Can a dealer force the truck to update?

Thank you for the info!!!

(when I say "Ford cellular" I mean the over the air that is not via WiFi. I have no idea what carrier, etc. And I don't mean having an activated Hotspot, that's different.)

There are very few systematic deployments on OTA's that I have been able to see. Dealers can update the truck manually, but Ford does not pay them to do so, so they don't do it. Some of these updates can take hours, and no tech wants to work for free.

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[rugedraw]

Seeing as how I've gotten 3.5.3.2 and 3.5.4 in the last few days, what do I expect next OTA and what is the update going around that we do NOT want to install?

The 1009 BCM update we are talking about is the one you don't want to do with FDRS. Performing the one in FDRS reverts it back to the faulty one that 1009 gets you out of. It's crazy to me that Ford hasn't pulled it from FDRS yet.

Edit: I got mine for days after updating manually to 3.5.4. Many other owners reported it within days of 3.5.4, as well. Many people have reported getting in less than 4 days and some longer, too. There are also other updates people are seeing after 3.5.4 like 1010 and 1007. They all report them coming in right after 3.5.4.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/new-ota-update-after-3-5-4.15325/

 

[JEB]

The 1009 BCM update we are talking about is the one you don't want to do with FDRS. Performing the one in FDRS reverts it back to the faulty one that 1009 gets you out of. It's crazy to me that Ford hasn't pulled it from FDRS yet.

I still don’t think this is quite right. Or I am misreading it. I’ll try another way. In late August/early September 2022, Ford released to FDRS (only) a 2-part BCM update. It was defective. It blew up the HCM on trucks that had reflector headlights (trucks at or below the 501a Lariat trim). Ford did two things in response. It withdrew the BCM update and it reissued an earlier BCM update (again, to FDRS only) that would reverse the faulty BCM update if you applied it—even for trucks for which the faulty BCM update went through just fine.

Recently, Ford started deploying OTA Priority Update (PU) 1009. It is the exact same BCM update as the faulty one released last August to FDRS except this one appears to be fixed—no reports of it blowing up HCMs. Unfortunately, due to what is a screw up on Ford’s part, this OTA triggers the re-release (to FDRS only) of the reversing BCM update that is no longer needed, because OTA PU 1009 seems to work fine.

1009 “gets you out of” nothing. It simply is the fixed BCM update that Ford intended to release last August and has just now finally gotten right.

 

[JEB]

You did not get 3.5.4 via OTA, so I assume you updated the TCU with FDRS to get you to the equivalent of 3.5.4. If so, did you get 1009 before or after the TCU update? I have checked a lot of trucks recently and based on what I have seen, it only comes after 3.5.4 gets installed; regardless of whether the TCU was updated OTA or FDRS. This was the case with my own truck, as well. I had zero OTA's since 3.5.2 in October and then as soon as I updated the APIM and TCU on Sunday, I got the BCM update OTA 4 days later.

I still think we are talking at cross-purposes. I never said that you didn’t need the equivalent of what was in 3.5.4 in order to get PU 1009. I just said you didn’t need 3.5.4 itself if you get your updates in a different way.

I last updated my TCU in mid-October, well before PU 1009 started deploying.

 

[trojandawg3]

I still don’t think this is quite right. Or I am misreading it. I’ll try another way. In late August/early September 2022, Ford released to FDRS (only) a 2-part BCM update. It was defective. It blew up the HCM on trucks that had reflector headlights (trucks at or below the 501a Lariat trim). Ford did two things in response. It withdrew the BCM update and it reissued an earlier BCM update (again, to FDRS only) that would reverse the faulty BCM update if you applied it—even for trucks for which the faulty BCM update went through just fine.

Recently, Ford started deploying OTA Priority Update (PU) 1009. It is the exact same BCM update as the faulty one released last August to FDRS except this one appears to be fixed—no reports of it blowing up HCMs. Unfortunately, due to what is a screw up on Ford’s part, this OTA triggers the re-release (to FDRS only) of the reversing BCM update that is no longer needed, because OTA PU 1009 seems to work fine.

1009 “gets you out of” nothing. It simply is the fixed BCM update that Ford intended to release last August and has just now finally gotten right.

In my case all updates have been OTA, so nothing to worry about at the moment?

 

[rugedraw]

1009 “gets you out of” nothing. It simply is the fixed BCM update that Ford intended to release last August and has just now finally gotten right.

Agreed on everything you said before the quote above. We're on the same page. "Gets you out" is probably not the best choice of words, but we are on the same page with this.

I still think we are talking at cross-purposes. I never said that you didn’t need the equivalent of what was in 3.5.4 in order to get PU 1009. I just said you didn’t need 3.5.4 itself if you get your updates in a different way.

I last updated my TCU in mid-October, well before PU 1009 started deploying.

We are on the same page on this, too. Somehow the communication wires got crossed in the convo.

 

[rugedraw]

In my case all updates have been OTA, so nothing to worry about at the moment?

Nothing to worry about. The only way you can go backwards on the update is with FDRS.

 

[JEB]

In my case all updates have been OTA, so nothing to worry about at the moment?

Correct. At least nothing to worry about as far as the BCM is concerned. I can’t speak to the current status of your other modules that may or may not have been updated via the OTA mechanism.

 

[TJSam]

No OTA history in your truck in the past 60 days. The last OTA your truck got was in November of last year. Because it was over 60 days ago, I can't see which update it was, but based on your Sync version, you are very behind on updates. Those older updates you need to not get pushed out very often, so you have to just wait it out.

@rugedraw Can you see what version of Power Up is loaded?

The truck was built in late August 2022 and then sat for almost 3 months waiting for chips. The November OTA must have been installed in the factory when they finished the final steps of building the truck. I didn't take delivery of the truck until 1/6/23.

 

[Nideda24]

Hoping someone can help check my truck.

VIN: 1FTEW1EP7MKE19649

Sync Version 20312 Rev 243
Power Up 1.4

Took it to the dealer for them to update manually since it’s so far behind on updates. They factory reset and sent me on my way - no changes to software versions.

Now just planning to teach myself to do it all through FDRS.

 

[rugedraw]

@rugedraw Can you see what version of Power Up is loaded?

The truck was built in late August 2022 and then sat for almost 3 months waiting for chips. The November OTA must have been installed in the factory when they finished the final steps of building the truck. I didn't take delivery of the truck until 1/6/23.

I cannot, but if you have a 2022, it would come out of the factory with up to 2.8.3 already on it. 3.5.2, 3.5.3.2 and 3.5.4 would be the only power-updates the truck is missing.

Hoping someone can help check my truck.

VIN: 1FTEW1EP7MKE19649

Sync Version 20312 Rev 243
Power Up 1.4

Took it to the dealer for them to update manually since it’s so far behind on updates. They factory reset and sent me on my way - no changes to software versions.

Now just planning to teach myself to do it all through FDRS.

Holy sh*t you are far behind. The last OTA you got was last month for 1.4.0 and your truck is on the dreaded Sync 20301 where there trucks are known to get stuck. The next update you are due is 1.6.0 which when you get it, it will most likely install. However, the one after that is 1.7.1 which is the update that is known to possibly break the OTA process on your trucks. It is possible that it will update correctly, but you are so behind on updates, that even it does install correctly, it will take you a year or more to get all the updates you need and be up to date. FDRS is your best bet.

Look up the thread that I have started and look for my "community mongoose thread" and see if that interests you or if you prefer to buy your own. I just got a second Mongoose that I will be adding to the rotation so I will be able to help people who want to update their trucks get a Mongoose quicker.

 

[rugedraw]

@JEB @Kanuck

I just had a member PM me to check their VIN privately. This truck's latest power-up update was 2.6.0 they it received last month. Since then, the truck got the two patches 2021's get before they get 3.5.2, it got a TRM update, and most important to note, it got the 1009 BCM update 3 days ago.

So while there is definitely something about 3.5.4 (OTA or FDRS) that seems to trigger 1009 to come in soon after, you can get this OTA even if your power-up updates are behind.

Just wanted to share that since it was a topic of discussion yesterday.

 

[Nideda24]

I cannot, but if you have a 2022, it would come out of the factory with up to 2.8.3 already on it. 3.5.2, 3.5.3.2 and 3.5.4 would be the only power-updates the truck is missing.



Holy sh*t you are far behind. The last OTA you got was last month for 1.4.0 and your truck is on the dreaded Sync 20301 where there trucks are known to get stuck. The next update you are due is 1.6.0 which when you get it, it will most likely install. However, the one after that is 1.7.1 which is the update that is known to possibly break the OTA process on your trucks. It is possible that it will update correctly, but you are so behind on updates, that even it does install correctly, it will take you a year or more to get all the updates you need and be up to date. FDRS is your best bet.

Look up the thread that I have started and look for my "community mongoose thread" and see if that interests you or if you prefer to buy your own. I just got a second Mongoose that I will be adding to the rotation so I will be able to help people who want to update their trucks get a Mongoose quicker.

Thanks for the lookup! I was pretty sure FDRS was my only/quickest option at this point. I ordered the Mongoose plus cable from Amazon last night. Should be here tomorrow.

 

[JEB]

@JEB @Kanuck

I just had a member PM me to check their VIN privately. This truck's latest power-up update was 2.6.0 they it received last month. Since then, the truck got the two patches 2021's get before they get 3.5.2, it got a TRM update, and most important to note, it got the 1009 BCM update 3 days ago.

So while there is definitely something about 3.5.4 (OTA or FDRS) that seems to trigger 1009 to come in soon after, you can get this OTA even if your power-up updates are behind.

Just wanted to share that since it was a topic of discussion yesterday.

I don’t think the OTA pathway is systematic enough to make reliable predictions about triggering events. We can do it to some extent in FDRS. For example, you can occasionally see a GWM or TCU or IPMA update and when you apply it an APIM update pops up. Then you know what the trigger is. It doesn’t seem like you can be that precise with OTAs. If you’re relying on OTAs exclusively for software updates, you get what you get, whenever Ford decides to send it to you, and there’s nothing you, your dealer, your priest, your witch doctor or your astrologer can do about it.

 

[rugedraw]

I don’t think the OTA pathway is systematic enough to make reliable predictions about triggering events. We can do it to some extent in FDRS. For example, you can occasionally see a GWM or TCU or IPMA update and when you apply it an APIM update pops up. Then you know what the trigger is. It doesn’t seem like you can be that precise with OTAs. If you’re relying on OTAs exclusively for software updates, you get what you get, whenever Ford decides to send it to you, and there’s nothing you, your dealer, your priest, your witch doctor or your astrologer can do about it.

lmao Agreed. I have been trying to see patterns for months to no avail. However, all these owners reporting 1009, 1010 and 1007 days after getting 3.5.4 cannot be coincidental. I can confirm dozens of people between this and f150forum that have reported one of these updates coming in after 3.5.4.

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