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I have the 7500 interval plan with full synthetic. Almost 70,000 mile in, and the only thing I've paid for is tires. I had the spark plugs changed at 60,000 (per the service schedule). I do have to ask for the wipers each time, but they are covered.
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How much is this plan?
The quote I received from a Cassie at Granger was $2,510 for the 10yr - 100k mile Premium Maintenance Plan with 5k intervals. If I opted for the full-synthetic oil option it would be an additional $500.
 

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I looked into it. If you do your own oil, air filters and plugs to me it’s not worth it.

I figured it cost 50 percent less with me changing oil with full synthetic every 3k.
 

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Hey all,

I am wanting to get the opinion of some the Ford experts in here regarding purchasing a premium maintenance plan after I take delivery of my order.

I am going to get a maintenance plan.. Most likely a 10yr, 100k mile premium plan with 5k intervals. My main question is, should I opt for the full synthetic oil option for $500? I have ordered a Powerboost. Is synthetic oil significantly better for the truck?


Secondary questions... Within the Premium Maintenance plan will it cover all scheduled maintenance items in the maintenance book that comes with the truck?


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Yes to the Premium plan with full synth change out. My oil tests show on my 3.5L show accelerated sheer oil viscosity, sheering out or 30 to 20 in as little as 2300 miles for a mid cycle oil lab test. With that, go with full synth as a prudent and reasonable choice.
 

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Yes to the Premium plan with full synth change out. My oil tests show on my 3.5L show accelerated sheer oil viscosity, sheering out or 30 to 20 in as little as 2300 miles for a mid cycle oil lab test. With that, go with full synth as a prudent and reasonable choice.
What kind of driving are you doing when citing that test. Are you towing heavy loads?
 

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What kind of driving are you doing when citing that test. Are you towing heavy loads?
Just the normal city/highway driving. No towing and I am showing the motor sheered both Pennz Ultra P and Valvoline R&P in about 2500 miles out of 30 and down to 20 weight. Sheering the viscosity package down at the halfway point of a 4K cycle is something to note and keep an eye on. The real key is what is the metal wear per 1000 miles to keep an eye on.
 

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Do you mind explaining what you mean by the oil shear being reduced from 30 to 20? Do you mean that the viscosity which is designed to be at SAE 30 at operating temperature is now more like SAE 20 oil because the viscosity improvers have diminished? Are they indicating that the oil is getting thinner as it wears?
 

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Do you mind explaining what you mean by the oil shear being reduced from 30 to 20? Do you mean that the viscosity which is designed to be at SAE 30 at operating temperature is now more like SAE 20 oil because the viscosity improvers have diminished? Are they indicating that the oil is getting thinner as it wears?
Yes, 30 weight is sheering down to 20 weight. Some of this might not be as concerning as one would think as long as metal wear indicators stay low enough. The history of the 3.5L going back in 2011 was that it was originally specified with 5W-20, where sometime thereafter they bumped that up to 5W-30. The real indicator of concern is the metal wear indicator number per 1000 miles. If that is ok, going to 4K miles is ok as long as the viscosity doesn't dip down below 20. I will have more information on that performance profile for Valvoline R&P when I test and drop the oil at 4k miles. In any case, full synthetic change out at 4k or 5K interval max seems like a good idea with a Premium Plan to me.
 

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Yes, 30 weight is sheering down to 20 weight. Some of this might not be as concerning as one would think as long as metal wear indicators stay low enough. The history of the 3.5L going back in 2011 was that it was originally specified with 5W-20, where sometime thereafter they bumped that up to 5W-30. The real indicator of concern is the metal wear indicator number per 1000 miles. If that is ok, going to 4K miles is ok as long as the viscosity doesn't dip down below 20. I will have more information on that performance profile for Valvoline R&P when I test and drop the oil at 4k miles. In any case, full synthetic change out at 4k or 5K interval max seems like a good idea with a Premium Plan to me.
I wonder if that has to do with the higher shear loads imposed by the turbocharger on that V6 engine? obviously cylinder pressures would be much higher and piston side loads and piston ring loads also higher.
 

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Many Blackstone reports have been posted here and don't show that shear in at least triple those miles. Post a report showing shear at 3k.
 

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I wonder if that has to do with the higher shear loads imposed by the turbocharger on that V6 engine? obviously cylinder pressures would be much higher and piston side loads and piston ring loads also higher.
Yes to what you cited. Forced induction motors are hard on oils. I am actually a pretty mild driver so it’s not like I am stomping on and building up boost very much, eg, on ramp speed up and certain passing situations but from looking at my boost pressures on the turbo, I am actually a very mild driver
 

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Many Blackstone reports have been posted here and don't show that shear in at least triple those miles. Post a report showing shear at 3k.
After rereading a few of the blackstone threads, it does appear that the 3.5's fuel dilution causes the viscosity to decrease in shorter interval samples. My previous statement was incorrect.
 
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After rereading a few of the blackstone threads, it does appear that the 3.5's fuel dilution causes the viscosity to decrease in shorter interval samples. My previous statement was incorrect.
So am I understanding correctly that with that information, utilizing full synthetic oil should be recommended? Full synthetic will help mitigate that viscosity issue?
 

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So am I understanding correctly that with that information, utilizing full synthetic oil should be recommended? Full synthetic will help mitigate that viscosity issue?
I'm not a tribologist nor have I done any used oil analysis myself, so can't answer that specific question, but I have been using only full synthetic for a couple decades.
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