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lol oh boy…where to begin. So…sand and rocks…on the road…kicked up by other cars as well as your own versus a blower, which is handheld, and not being fed sand and rocks unless you’re actually tossing them into the blower motor. How does this not make sense to you?

Did I say anything negative about MF towels? Nope, sure didn’t. I use them, and they have their place in specific processes.

And wax vs coating? There’s no comparison. When it comes to making your car easier to maintain the ceramic coating wins every time. Wax lasts 1-3 months at best on a daily driven car that is washed on a regular basis. Coated cars last 1-8 years depending on the solids content of the coating you use.

Wax has its place, but it’s old school tech and doesn’t stand up against quality ceramic coatings. I’ve been a detailing hobbyist doing this over a decade now. I’ve taken plenty of professional classes, tested may products, and educated myself with multiple sources of information…not just buying wholesale what others say.

I’m sorry to break it to you, but the current process of cleaning and maintaining cars is light years ahead of your old-school mentality. It’s time to catch up to the present.

And your “competition” comparison is laughable on its face and as a premise. I can maintain a scratch-free process just fine with my method and have so for years on daily, highway-driven cars. Parking it next to yours would prove nothing to anyone other then your easily brusied ego.
So now wax is no good. Could it be some are too lazy to address the paint every three months instead of 6 months. Please show some picture of junkyards stacked with rides that used wax and polish. Like most homemakers buying the latest and greatest is a must. Where are all the leaf blowers in auto parts businesses? "light years" you say. Well Captain Kirk that is laughable like your post. I guess sheep have their place since if everyone is buying into it then it must be true!!! HINT: Drive after washing and save the price of a leaf blower.😂
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So now wax is no good. Could it be some are too lazy to address the paint every three months instead of 6 months. Please show some picture of junkyards stacked with rides that used wax and polish. Like most homemakers buying the latest and greatest is a must. Where are all the leaf blowers in auto parts businesses? "light years" you say. Well Captain Kirk that is laughable like your post. I guess sheep have their place since if everyone is buying into it then it must be true!!! HINT: Drive after washing and save the price of a leaf blower.😂
Who said wax wasn’t good? I certainly didn’t…I said ceramic is better, by a long shot. You not wanting to believe it doesn’t make it less true. I’d put up my detailing skills and knowledge against yours any day of the week. And what does “auto parts” stores have to do with detailing? That’s not their bread and butter. I can find detailing products at Lowe’s and Home Depot, does that make them authorities on car detailing? Hardly.

And your ad-hominem attack at calling people lazy or “sheep” for wanting a smarter process vs a more labor-intensive process tells me you are a close-minded individual and this discussion is now a waste of my time. Enjoy your “stuck in the past” process however you like, and I’ll enjoy having better results with less work.
 
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Who said wax wasn’t good? I certainly didn’t…I said ceramic is better, by a long shot. You not wanting to believe it doesn’t make it less true. I’d put up my detailing skills and knowledge against yours any day of the week. And what does “auto parts” stores have to do with detailing? That’s not their bread and butter. I can find detailing products at Lowe’s and Home Depot, does that make them authorities on car detailing? Hardly.

And your ad-hominem attack at calling people lazy or “sheep” for wanting a smarter process vs a more labor-intensive process tells me you are a close-minded individual and this discussion is now a waste of my time. Enjoy your “stuck in the past” process however you like, and I’ll enjoy having better results with less work.
Actually I'm stuck in the present. If it's a waste of your time then you, not me is wasting your time. Get it?!
 

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Actually I'm stuck in the present. If it's a waste of your time then you, not me is wasting your time. Get it?!
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Guys its ok to have difference option of keeping cars clean.

As long as they are clean :D

Ive used both methods, neither is "wrong".
 

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Guys its ok to have difference option of keeping cars clean.

As long as they are clean :D

Ive used both methods, neither is "wrong".
You’re absolutely correct. Either way works. What my disagreement on was the misinformation pushed by those obviously lacking knowledge of the subject.
 

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Thanks for the conversation. As a hand car wash fanatic, I like to read others thoughts on the subject and consider other techniques.

For decades I've used a synthetic Chamois for drying. I nozzle rinse it off after every panel or two just like I do my hand wash mitt. (it's cleaner than the often promoted two bucket method)

The key to preventing micro scratches is maintaining clean tools and applying only the very least amount of pressure.

I've seen a lot of questionable washing / drying techniques offered up on YouTube videos that look to me like they would cause micro scratches. Usually on newer low mileage vehicles, so of course they still look great for now. Long term results may or may not be so favorable.

I'm able to keep my year round daily drivers looking like new for years with only mild auto specific cleaners and careful hand washing/drying. Along with the occasional clay bar and/or quick wax jobs. I often get compliments on how great they look even when they are 10 plus years old.

If one uses high pressure washers and strong cleaners (or any auto wash) modern ceramic coatings are probably the way to go... those tools quickly strip off traditional coatings.
 

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Thanks for the conversation. As a hand car wash fanatic, I like to read others thoughts on the subject and consider other techniques.

For decades I've used a synthetic Chamois for drying. I nozzle rinse it off after every panel or two just like I do my hand wash mitt. (it's cleaner than the often promoted two bucket method)

The key to preventing micro scratches is maintaining clean tools and applying only the very least amount of pressure.

I've seen a lot of questionable washing / drying techniques offered up on YouTube videos that look to me like they would cause micro scratches. Usually on newer low mileage vehicles, so of course they still look great for now. Long term results may or may not be so favorable.

I'm able to keep my year round daily drivers looking like new for years with only mild auto specific cleaners and careful hand washing/drying. Along with the occasional clay bar and/or quick wax jobs. I often get compliments on how great they look even when they are 10 plus years old.

If one uses high pressure washers and strong cleaners (or any auto wash) modern ceramic coatings are probably the way to go... those tools quickly strip off traditional coatings.
Your process is tried and true and if it works for you, no reason to change.

I only have one correction to make. No one should be using a “high pressure” washer. 900-1100 PSI is the standard acceptable pressure range for car washing. The key here is gallons per minute. Most of the big box stores like Lowe’s and Home Depot sell high PSI washers which are great for cleaning decks, driveways, siding, etc but are no bueno for automotive use.
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