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Anyone have any experience worth sharing in buying out your lease? Was it a fair deal? I’m torn between this option vs buying outright. Like the idea of not paying for the depreciation like I would if I were to just buy it. It would be my first time-so I assume leveling the truck would be a no-no throughout the lease? I would have to wait until I bought it? Is that right?
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You're paying for depreciation either way, so I'm not sure what you mean there. Your lease payment will be based off the agreed selling price of the car, residual value expected after 3 or however many years, and the money factor (APR). In Georgia you will owe taxes on the amount of the total lease payments, and then if you buy it out after the lease is up you will pay taxes again on the residual value that you buy it at.

I bought out my BMW in 2021 during the supply shortage because I was able to trade it for more than the residual value. Taxes ate up a lot of that though and in normal times the RVs are usually pretty close to what it will be worth at the end of the lease.

IMO, benefit to leasing continually is if you want a new vehicle every three years, and in GA, you save a decent amount on taxes.
 

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When I've looked at lease to buy previously on other vehicles, the overall cost was ~10% higher than just buying/financing from the start. That was back before interest rates went up significantly, so I can't imagine it's gotten any better.
 

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Anyone have any experience worth sharing in buying out your lease? Was it a fair deal? I’m torn between this option vs buying outright. Like the idea of not paying for the depreciation like I would if I were to just buy it. It would be my first time-so I assume leveling the truck would be a no-no throughout the lease? I would have to wait until I bought it? Is that right?
leasing rarely can work out for a buyer. We have a quickly depreciating asset. Buy with cash and avoid any kind of financing whether it be leasing or a loan, neither of those is a good plan.
 

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I’m 5 months out from buying my lease 22 Screw, and I leveled it before I had 200 miles on it, and a few other mods, I just wish the rates were better, but not in our control now is it?
 

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For me.. I figure it will cost me ~$2000 more to lease and buy after lease, vs buying up front (cash for both buys). That said, many factors come into play (see after my current truck example).

Here is how my current "bought after lease ended" is working out...

2019 RAM Rebel, $62K Sticker (back in 2019), I get supplier discount.
Leased for $472/month ($3K down) x 36 months = ~$20K (including lease fees)
Purchased at 3 year lease end for $28,500 (not including taxes)
So ~$48,500 total $$$ spent (not including tax on the purchase) for a $62K truck.
Now... I am selling/trading in the RAM for my F150. Dealer will give me $35K, retail I can probably quickly sell for $37K (truck only has 27K miles, garaged, etc.)

In the end.. it will have cost me $12K - $14K to own this truck for 4 1/2 years... pretty good (thank you market explosion and low mileage).

In return for leasing, I can:
- Return the truck at the end of the lease if I don't like it, it is unreliable, I'm spoiled and want another truck (lol)
- If you're less on miles, or if values increase (or prices increase), you get some equity at the end of the lease (can buy and then sell to recoup some $$$ or just drive it for a bit and then sell for what you bought it for.)
- If I know I'm not going to buy it after the lease, save $$$ on maintenance and just do the recommended oil changes at obnoxiously high recommended intervals.
- I've never had to replace tires/brakes/anything because I'm always under warranty and tires last long enough for how much I drive.
 

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I had to make this decision recently as to whether to buy out (what was my 1st ever) lease but a number of factors came in to play that made it (for me) a straight forward decision....

The payout on the lease on my truck was approx $40k at the end of the lease, and mine was in immaculate condition. Oil changed every 5000 miles, regular services at the local dealer, hand washed it's entire life etc... The guy coming to do the end of lease inspection told me the dealer was going to love a truck in such pristine condition ( obviously no wear and tear charges).... yet when I handed it in, during the process I found out that ford was just going to send it straight to auction "as they want full retail".... in effect I didn't need to have looked after it as well as I did.... (but that's the way I roll so it's not going to change :))...

I looked at trading it, but the dealers were trying to stiff me $4k in the swing, and on top of a mileage/usage penalty of another $4k ( I elected 12k miles and used 18K miles) I could not justify trading it so it became a choice of handing it back and starting again on buy only or another lease.

I'm a builder and could have paid the lease out and owned the truck, but I don't agree with tying up that much capital in a depreciating asset as I could make that $40k work so much better.... and financing the buyout of a 3 year old truck and paying interest all over again on the same asset isn't something I wanted to do either.

Once I found Granger and their pricing was real and they are who they say they are through this forum, buying it at a more than fair price without the games dealers play made it a no brainer. Not only do I get a lower starting point in my cost of ownership, it's now brand new although pretty much identical to what I handed back, has enough little extras that I'm happy.

I financed my new one, it took all of 10 minutes to get approval and deal is done minimum of fuss while I no longer have to keep worrying about how much my annual mileage is and whether any mods can or can't be done....

When it gets to a mileage that I think is enough then I will either trade it or sell it privately or keep it but now that date is in my hands, not the lease terms.

So for me.... it's a buy new....
 

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I had to make this decision recently as to whether to buy out (what was my 1st ever) lease but a number of factors came in to play that made it (for me) a straight forward decision....

The payout on the lease on my truck was approx $40k at the end of the lease, and mine was in immaculate condition. Oil changed every 5000 miles, regular services at the local dealer, hand washed it's entire life etc... The guy coming to do the end of lease inspection told me the dealer was going to love a truck in such pristine condition ( obviously no wear and tear charges).... yet when I handed it in, during the process I found out that ford was just going to send it straight to auction "as they want full retail".... in effect I didn't need to have looked after it as well as I did.... (but that's the way I roll so it's not going to change :))...

I looked at trading it, but the dealers were trying to stiff me $4k in the swing, and on top of a mileage/usage penalty of another $4k ( I elected 12k miles and used 18K miles) I could not justify trading it so it became a choice of handing it back and starting again on buy only or another lease.

I'm a builder and could have paid the lease out and owned the truck, but I don't agree with tying up that much capital in a depreciating asset as I could make that $40k work so much better.... and financing the buyout of a 3 year old truck and paying interest all over again on the same asset isn't something I wanted to do either.

Once I found Granger and their pricing was real and they are who they say they are through this forum, buying it at a more than fair price without the games dealers play made it a no brainer. Not only do I get a lower starting point in my cost of ownership, it's now brand new although pretty much identical to what I handed back, has enough little extras that I'm happy.

I financed my new one, it took all of 10 minutes to get approval and deal is done minimum of fuss while I no longer have to keep worrying about how much my annual mileage is and whether any mods can or can't be done....

When it gets to a mileage that I think is enough then I will either trade it or sell it privately or keep it but now that date is in my hands, not the lease terms.

So for me.... it's a buy new....
I agree.. I think the situation matters.

For me, a basically "brand new" condition, still current design with 27K miles for $28.5K vs. a brand new, same design (basically identical truck) for what had become over $70K just didn't make sense. And to buy that truck up front would have been over $1100/month for 5 years (vs. my 472/month lease).

As for outlaying the $$$ up front, to finance a used vehicle when I bought the lease out would have been around 8% interest (top-tier credit/income and no debt). If you've got an investment that can guarantee me more than 7% each year for 3+ years in a row (whatever term loan someone would be), please let me know! (seriously).
 

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Basically when you lease your just paying the depreciation on the vehicle plus a little bit more.Its ok to level and do some other mods when you lease just don’t go too crazy.What I usually do is trade my leased truck into the dealer before the lease is up so I don’t have to have to possibly pay for tires or anything.A couple of times I actually got an extra couple of grand out of the trade in to start my lease up with zero out of pocket.But I like getting a new truck every 3 years.
 

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Basically when you lease your just paying the depreciation on the vehicle plus a little bit more.Its ok to level and do some other mods when you lease just don’t go too crazy.What I usually do is trade my leased truck into the dealer before the lease is up so I don’t have to have to possibly pay for tires or anything.A couple of times I actually got an extra couple of grand out of the trade in to start my lease up with zero out of pocket.But I like getting a new truck every 3 years.
Don't get me wrong.. this is usually what I do. In fact, my current truck is my first 3 year lease.. I've done 2 year leases for every other lease so far.

My point was just that it's up to the situation, and I was giving an example of where it made sense for me to buy that one out (if anything just to sell it.. I paid $28.5K and it was valued at $47K trade-in).

EDIT: Re-reading.. I didn't need to respond to this. lol Oh well.. I'll leave it.
 

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I have leased vehicles that did not qualify for Section 179 treatment. After Reagan ones ability to depreciate a business vehicle was limited to something with a GVWR of more than 6,000 lbs.

With a lease the entire payment could be written off as a business expense. At the end of the lease I could decide whether to buy out the lease and keep the car or get something else.

Buying a vehicle coming off a lease can be good buy as the truck was under warranty and had any maintenance performed as required by the leasing company. Much of the depreciation is during the first 2 years and so the prior owner took most of the hit.
 

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I can offer this advice..Speck out a 2024 send it to Granger in Iowa and the cost of financing that amount. Then go to your local Ford dealership and see what kind of lease deal you could get. If you take great care of your vehicles and don't run up a lot of miles I bet it would make more sense to order and buy because in 2 or 3 years your truck would bring a premium price. Just don't go overboard with options and pick a great color.
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