Icon 2.5 CDCV and Raptor Leaf Pack Fitment Confirmed

[DHBPhoto]

Hi there,
Thanks for the write-up.

I just installed a FWC Project-M on my 21 SuperCrew 3.5eb — pretty much the same but as your tremor. I have fox 2.5 on all 4 corners and SPC up arms. I added a 1.5 own factor ad-a-leaf long before the install to help with an Smart cap and Alu-Cab RTT, plus a moto hitch rack and 160lbs emoto. Figured the Project-M would weight about the same, but it's clearly a WAY heavier setup. Back to the shop we go...

I see you installed gen2 raptor packs. Looks like it may eliminate the riser? Also, you used dropper shackles too? I'm considering the hd +2 deaver pack for the gen2 raptor, but didn't realize icon made some as well. And honestly, I've heard mixed reports if it will fit or not.

What would you recommend for a pack to give me 1.5"/2" of rake over the front to accommodate roughly 1100lbs of weight?

Also, do you have any experience with the deavers? Would those fit?

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[TheGoatman]

Awesome!
Thanks for this.

can you share the full droop measurement or even better, what the shock length would be to get to full droop?

 

[Hotshot Offroad]

Hi there,
Thanks for the write-up.

I just installed a FWC Project-M on my 21 SuperCrew 3.5eb — pretty much the same but as your tremor. I have fox 2.5 on all 4 corners and SPC up arms. I added a 1.5 own factor ad-a-leaf long before the install to help with an Smart cap and Alu-Cab RTT, plus a moto hitch rack and 160lbs emoto. Figured the Project-M would weight about the same, but it's clearly a WAY heavier setup. Back to the shop we go...

I see you installed gen2 raptor packs. Looks like it may eliminate the riser? Also, you used dropper shackles too? I'm considering the hd +2 deaver pack for the gen2 raptor, but didn't realize icon made some as well. And honestly, I've heard mixed reports if it will fit or not.

What would you recommend for a pack to give me 1.5"/2" of rake over the front to accommodate roughly 1100lbs of weight?

Also, do you have any experience with the deavers? Would those fit?

Pic for reference:

Nice rig! And yeah... She's SQUATTY. Just with that I can see (plus the specs I pulled from the FWC site) you're running at a minimum 700lbs, and that is assuming you have nothing else in your cab or the bed of the truck. I think that 1000lbs mark is probably pretty accurate as far as your estimations go.

The Icon RXT raptor packs that we installed allowed us to get rid of the 4" block that came on the Tremor which is great! We installed drop shackles in the rear not because we wanted things lower, but because if we didn't run a shackle with a longer arm the Icon pack would make contact with the shackle during compression cycles. It was just a concession that we had to make in order to make things work together. The other piece of this is the design of the eyelets themselves. The Icon packs wrap around the bottom of the eyelet by design, whereas on something like a Deaver the longest leaf intersects the eyelet in the center of it which makes a little more clearance at the shackles.

As for pack selection I am going to say that the Icon is not the pack for you. You simply just have too much weight! If you want to get your ride height back and have the confidence that comes from not having your load throw you all over the place I think that a Deaver pack is going to be the way to go. Deaver doesn't list their packs as compatible with anything but the Raptors per se, but it's a ride height and load carrying capacity puzzle, and one that I am confident that I can solve. Shoot us a direct message with your full gear list out back as well as your intended ride height and we can put something together. Alternatively, you can always give us a buzz here at 406-936-0206.

Awesome!
Thanks for this.

can you share the full droop measurement or even better, what the shock length would be to get to full droop?

We unfortunately didn't take any measurements of just the leaf pack at full droop to see what that full distance is. I'm sure we could pull things apart again to see what those values are, but unless you are looking for a one-off build (shock relocate) I can pretty confidently say that the RXTs will droop further than most any shock out there that fits the F-150 or Raptor. If you're running your truck hard is it a bad idea to get limit straps in the rear? Nope!

If we do decide to pull it apart here any day soon I'll make sure to report back with full RXT droop numbers as long as the brake lines allow it. If you have other questions though please let me know.

 

[MaxMaster1]

Good afternoon members!

Now that we are here as one of the Sponsors we want to make sure were are here to help everyone out the best we can. Not just for parts but also for technical details and assistance. Since we have our own 2022 Tremor shop build we are able to get on our hands on different products as well as share our mindset of the build. And even if anyone has a different goal for their build we hope to be able to assist in any way possible.

Our Tremor build is an overland inspired build. Although the Tremor is more than capable from the factory to handle the outdoors, we couldn't possibly leave such a nice vehicle stock So the first thing we dug into was the suspension. A lot of you already know (or may not know) that there aren't too many Tremor "specific" kits out there currently. And even a lot of manufacturers state that kits do not fit on the Tremor model. But knowing what we knew in terms of other trim levels and the Tremor we had a hunch things could work out just fine. So we hit the ground running and went straight for the Icon CDCV 2.5 kit.

The install was just like any other install. Everything bolted up just fine. We did have to take a few extra steps for our specific build to make things work which we have highlighted in our write up. We then swapped out our UCA's which were the easiest UCA install we have ever done. Once all that was done, came the rear. Now for the rears we still used the Icon CDCV 2.5 shocks, but we wanted to swap out the leaf packs as well. As many of you may know, there are no Tremor specific leaf packs on the market. This was not something that just any ol' kit would work. We had to do some digging and make a few phone calls. The answer to our hopeful idea was the Icon RXT leaf packs for the 2nd Gen Raptors. From the specs of the pack they seemed to align with the Tremor OEM packs. We spoke to Icon and they mentioned the idea was being tested, but did not confirm fitment guarantees.

To our knowledge, we were the first shop to attempt this set up on a Tremor and to our joy, the kit worked. Everything fit as it should, but we did have to modify a few things. To start, we needed drop shackles. We knew this going into the build so we decided to install the MaxTrac shackles. Next we knew the OEM bump stops would end up being to short due to the new open space we had from the RXT's. So we swapped out the OEM ones for the Timbren SES Bump stop kit. All simple and easy bolt on products.

For those interested; we have a full write up on our website! Or you can follow the link below for more details. We also give some tips and tricks on how we went abut this specific install. You can use Icons install directions to get the install done, but we found a few snags that we tackled and addressed on the write up. Let us know what you think or if you have any questions! We've added a few images below after the install to show some of the items used.

Hi!
Can you tell me if you have any experience using these leaf springs with factory suspension on a very ordinary truck? Without any changes to the suspension, when everything is factory-installed, the factory shock absorbers are without CCD.
Thanks!

 

[MaxMaster1]

I really don't like the way the truck drives through bumps and holes on the roads. The rear part, which is not loaded, is very bouncy, even when braking, it is very noticeable. I read somewhere that these leaf springs significantly reduce the fluctuations of the rear axle. I don't want to lift my truck off the ground, as this will greatly change the stability on the roads for the worse. And it also entails changing the factory wheel size to a larger one, which will lead to a significant reduction in comfort, which is not available at the moment.

 

[Hotshot Offroad]

Hi!
Can you tell me if you have any experience using these leaf springs with factory suspension on a very ordinary truck? Without any changes to the suspension, when everything is factory-installed, the factory shock absorbers are without CCD.
Thanks!

Unfortunately, we have not tested this leaf pack out on just a stock suspension. Most of the time when we are testing things we are testing full kit components and this was one that we were testing to see if it would even fit a Tremor at the time as well as standard F150s which is where we discovered what and did not work.

in terms of ride quality, they certainly will stiffen up the rear end of these trucks. But we have also found that just upgrading your rear shocks to a better shock over factory makes a significant difference as well. We found the stock suspension on these trucks to be very sloppy on the backend even on our Tremor build. Which is sad to say when it is a Offroad designed vehicle. Just swapping your rear shocks out would make a good difference for you and you will not gain any height in the rear either which I know you stated you did not want. Something to keep in mind with the leaf pack is that you are going to gain some height in the rear unless you plan to run some sort of payload.

 

[MaxMaster1]

On the contrary, I read that these leaf springs will make a softer ride, similar to riding on a spring suspension.

 

[MaxMaster1]

By the way, I've been looking at the Fox 2.5 Performance Elite adjustable suspension for a while, but after talking to the guys who are retrofitting factory Raptor suspensions in the 2nd and 3rd generations, I realized that this suspension is not worth the money, to put it mildly, and it won't add any comfort to everyday life. On the contrary, it's as tough as possible, but I want a smooth and comfortable ride, which, as it turned out, is only suitable for Fox Factory Race 3.0.

 

[MaxMaster1]

I was also advised to change the factory leaf springs to Deaver leaf springs, I could only find your post on the forum with the replacement of leaf springs with ICON. That's why I decided to ask you.

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