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And here is the excerpt from the factory service manual. IMHO it doesn’t really clear up the confusion either. Note that it says the BCM knows the location by the training order and further states that the BCM does not automatically know the new order. So this leads me to believe that it won’t know the new locations. But it’ll still tell you that a tire is low just maybe not the correct one. IDK.



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And here is the excerpt from the factory service manual. IMHO it doesn’t really clear up the confusion either. Note that it says the BCM knows the location by the training order and further states that the BCM does not automatically know the new order. So this leads me to believe that it won’t know the new locations. But it’ll still tell you that a tire is low just maybe not the correct one. IDK.
This tracks with my experience. Without resetting, it would still read the tire that rotated into the spare position (5 tire rotation), which would obviously remain at a constant pressure while the others warmed up.
 

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And here is the excerpt from the factory service manual. IMHO it doesn’t really clear up the confusion either. Note that it says the BCM knows the location by the training order and further states that the BCM does not automatically know the new order. So this leads me to believe that it won’t know the new locations. But it’ll still tell you that a tire is low just maybe not the correct one. IDK.



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I cited this in the past on my 2020, but everyone insisted I didn't need to do the training procedure when I rotated tires. I tried it once by filling tires to significantly different pressures, rotated, drove a few miles, and watched them all switch to their correct locations. It does happen automatically even though it apparently isn't supposed to.
 

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I cited this in the past on my 2020, but everyone insisted I didn't need to do the training procedure when I rotated tires. I tried it once by filling tires to significantly different pressures, rotated, drove a few miles, and watched them all switch to their correct locations. It does happen automatically even though it apparently isn't supposed to.
My issue may be throwing a 5th sensor into the mix that has to be identified as active. I didn't necessarily pay attention to whether the other sensors rotated to their correct position.

@hotrodmex I used an aftermarket TPMS in my spare, if yours is OEM, that may play a bit nicer with the system.
 
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I cited this in the past on my 2020, but everyone insisted I didn't need to do the training procedure when I rotated tires. I tried it once by filling tires to significantly different pressures, rotated, drove a few miles, and watched them all switch to their correct locations. It does happen automatically even though it apparently isn't supposed to.
That’s good to know. Thanks for sharing.
 

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Every TPMS I've ever used is self-calibrating and corrects on their own. I've never had to do anything to any of my vehicles, even with after-market tire/wheel packages and new TPMS sensors. Just drive it.
This has been my experience as I have a set of summer wheels and tires (with aftermarket TPMS sensors installed,) wheels are rotated every 3500 miles and then once the winter weather Is upon us I swap the stock wheels and tires back on and the truck reads the wheels properly
 
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@hotrodmex I used an aftermarket TPMS in my spare, if yours is OEM, that may play a bit nicer with the system.
It was OEM. I had the tire shop verify that it was transmitting when I had the 5th tire installed, but they did not pair it to the truck (truck wasn't even around at the time).

When I rotated it in 5K later, the truck picked it up and read it with no action on my part.
 

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Having just gone through this....

If you are doing a 4-tire rotation the truck figures it out all on it's own b/c it already knows each of the TPMS sensors (each TPMS sensor has a unique ID and the truck tracks where it went).

The spare (if it is one where it (rim and tire) matches the 4 down wheels) does not have a TPMS sensor. If it doesn't match, it's truly a spare and putting in a TPMS sensor really isn't of any value.

If you are doing a 5-tire rotation (and the fifth tire now has the correct TPMS sensor installed) the first time the spare tire is introduced you have to relearn the four "new" down tires while the "new" spare (i.e., the front left tire that moved to the spare position) goes to sleep. When that spare goes back into rotation the truck should remember it. But I keep one of those Motorcraft activation gadgets on hand and do the relearn just in case/as a matter of habit.

(As an aside I was able to pick up an XTool TP150 at a really good price and it's easy to use that to make sure of the proper frequency (315 Mhz or 433 Mhz; kind of a big deal these days b/c Ford has been using both in the same model vehicle in the same MY so it's not as easy as it used to be when you were 100% certain what you had), reads each unique ID, programs the sensors to the truck, etc.)
 

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If you are doing a 5-tire rotation (and the fifth tire now has the correct TPMS sensor installed) the first time the spare tire is introduced you have to relearn the four "new" down tires while the "new" spare (i.e., the front left tire that moved to the spare position) goes to sleep.
I didn't have to do this either, BUT my sensor was a Ford sensor previously on an F150. Maybe it being an OE Ford sensor means the truck didn't have to "learn" it.
 

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All you have to do is drive, no reset needed. In a few miles it will learn where the wheels are by the sensor mounted near the individual wheel. It doesn’t matter if you do a 4 or 5 wheel rotation. I bought a fifth wheel and put my best in as spare when I bought new tires at Discount Tire. Ended up educating them as to the nuances of the TPMS and how they are dormant until rotating on the truck.
 

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I had a TPMS sensor added to my spare so I could do a 5 tire rotation. I can confirm that the truck automatically learns what tire is where after driving for a few mins. Have done a few rotations, including just this past weekend.

Dont over think it. It works. Vehicles have been able to determine what tire is in what location for over a decade automatically.
 

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Keep the rear tires at different PSI setting than the front tires. When having the tires rotated the service department is told NOT to adjust my tire tire pressures as they are WARM from driving to the point of the work and am sick and tired of having UNDER inflated tires a couple of days after the work has been done.

Being different pressures front to rear one can verify that the tires have been rotated. Have heard of way to many reports of wheels that have been rotated that are fully seized on the axle requiring extra work to get the rims to release from the centering ring an the axle.

Simply balance out the pressures to my specs when the tires are COLD.
 

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I ran a 5th spare on my Nissan and Hyundai before my Ford. Nissan was a little slow to link with aftermarket sensors, and the Hyundai dropped the aftermarket sensors after a month or two, but both of them worked great with OEM sensors.

My Ford has been great with OEM and aftermarket sensors, so I guess I will say it is actually better/less picky........for now.
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