Front Sensor System confusion

[2THXTRM]

Copilot 360 includes all of these as far as I'm aware (BLISS, LKA, Anti collision). For 23 ford included more 'base' options now, some of which is codified like backup cams have been for a while. Copilot 360 includes 5 radars, 8 ultrasonic sensors, and 2 cameras (road watching one not accessible to drivers, other is backup by law), and is on every model except lower trim XL...

I've got this on my XLT high and my MME has bluecruise which is all of this, but includes the eye watching IR sensor deals. Personally the 'full' bluecruise isn't worth the $ IMO.

It's no smarter than the copilot system, and simply resting your leg against the wheel to create drag, or resting hand on the bottom of the wheel both serve to keep the system happy unless it's a straightaway (stupid) --- which requires you to torque the wheel a bit. They really need to patch that out already.

In '22 you had to have Co Pilot assist to get adaptive cruise, is that still the case? Not seeing adaptive listed above

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[HammaMan]

I agree. A better way to put it might be that it only needs or at minimum needs.



This would still be limited by the radar range being about that distance too, though, wouldn't it? The front BLIS sensors the BC trucks have are like the rears, and those max out at 33 ft for trailer coverage.

It shouldn't, it's radar, not ultrasonic.

 

[hotrodmex]

There's no line item on my sticker, truck has LKA / radar cruise

I'm super curious like others here. Are you willing to share your sticker? I also can't see how a truck would get Adaptive Cruise without Assist 2.0 from the order guide.

It shouldn't, it's radar, not ultrasonic.

Derp, yeah. My little Garmin Varia can show multiple cars in a line at 450 ft when off axis just a little bit. Ford's limit on BLIS is for some other reason like range accuracy, or liability, or something.

 

[HammaMan]

I'm super curious like others here. Are you willing to share your sticker? I also can't see how a truck would get Adaptive Cruise without Assist 2.0 from the order guide.

I bought 2 PB's last year, just double checked the current one's and found that is in-fact a line item. My bad, it's a blue sticker as you can see aka not a custom order..... I had the 1st ones sticker in this truck when I checked it There's also a $250 discount for it on the price portion making it a $500 option (verified vins)

 

[GregBC]

If anyone is wondering, I think the sensor is on the front logo. On mine with 360 camera, there’s a small rectangle sensor to the right of the camera.

I’m curious if anyone has had spurious alarms with Front Collision? I had set sensitivity to “High” and had 3 cases where it went off with nothing in front of me in my lane (all cases had a vehicle approaching in the other lane, which the Ford video says should not trigger it). I’ve reset sensitivity to “Low” and will try to pay attention to other conditions.

I’ll say this - it scares the heck out of ya! Especially when you’re driving along, paying attention just fine, and it makes you think “what did i miss???”

On my XLT, “PRE-COLLISION ASSIST W/AEB” is standard. I have 302A but don’t have Co-Pilot anything AFAIK (unless it’s part of 302A; don’t have any other sensors on the front bumper that I can tell).

 

[wrgrimes]

If anyone is wondering, I think the sensor is on the front logo. On mine with 360 camera, there’s a small rectangle sensor to the right of the camera.

I’m curious if anyone has had spurious alarms with Front Collision? I had set sensitivity to “High” and had 3 cases where it went off with nothing in front of me in my lane (all cases had a vehicle approaching in the other lane, which the Ford video says should not trigger it). I’ve reset sensitivity to “Low” and will try to pay attention to other conditions.

I’ll say this - it scares the heck out of ya! Especially when you’re driving along, paying attention just fine, and it makes you think “what did i miss???”

On my XLT, “PRE-COLLISION ASSIST W/AEB” is standard. I have 302A but don’t have Co-Pilot anything AFAIK (unless it’s part of 302A; don’t have any other sensors on the front bumper that I can tell).

I don’t know about the rectangle being a sensor. Some say the Forward Collision system is guided by a camera. The Forward Sensing System is different- it uses button like ultrasound sensors for near objects primarily for parking (possibly only active at low speed).

 

[HammaMan]

That's supposed to be the camera

If anyone is wondering, I think the sensor is on the front logo. On mine with 360 camera, there’s a small rectangle sensor to the right of the camera.

I’m curious if anyone has had spurious alarms with Front Collision? I had set sensitivity to “High” and had 3 cases where it went off with nothing in front of me in my lane (all cases had a vehicle approaching in the other lane, which the Ford video says should not trigger it). I’ve reset sensitivity to “Low” and will try to pay attention to other conditions.

I’ll say this - it scares the heck out of ya! Especially when you’re driving along, paying attention just fine, and it makes you think “what did i miss???”

On my XLT, “PRE-COLLISION ASSIST W/AEB” is standard. I have 302A but don’t have Co-Pilot anything AFAIK (unless it’s part of 302A; don’t have any other sensors on the front bumper that I can tell).

That's where the camera spray nozzle / cleaner is supposed to be. Keep it set to low if you're having issues. I keep it on low myself as I'm more aggressive. The warning triggers but it's never braked as it wasn't needed. Braking should only occur if it calculates collision is imminent.

Even "low" has safety margins outside of collision.

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