Ford EV

[CND Supercrew]

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ford-ditches-plans-electric-suv-industry-continues-backpedal-evs

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[INADAZE]

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ford-ditches-plans-electric-suv-industry-continues-backpedal-evs

Just opened it as well and was curious if someone was going to post it. Nice to see a fellow ZeroHedger on the forum. The first "news" site I hit every day.

 

[powerboatr]

Kamala the giggle monster will step in....demand we turn in our ice vehicles....
I love seeing companies actually starting to say no and stop the nonsense

 

[HammaMan]

Just opened it as well and was curious if someone was going to post it. Nice to see a fellow ZeroHedger on the forum. The first "news" site I hit every day.

Old news -- they'd said this a few weeks back about focusing more on hybrids and ICE because of buyer demand / weak EV demand.

As for first news site, I use X to catch it before it's in the "news". The ai scraping posts / making suggestions is entertaining. Sometimes it picks up on trending jokes and creates its own headline that's not accurate (really gives traditional media a run for its money in that department).

The real time data scraping makes its Ai quite useful. Instead of clicking to a paywalled article you can just tell it to give you 2 paragraphs with the important points of the headline and it will. Ask it to summarize critical / complementary posts about the topic and it provides. Plus unneutered image generation is hilarious.

Now that's how I like my "news". No bloviating, word salad, just the information. Been busy and hadn't heard about it but there's the news.

 

[hatallica]

I love seeing companies actually starting to say no and stop the nonsense

Part of the ebb and flow. Remember 2011, when Ford and Toyota were collaborating on a hybrid truck? One of my customers was working with Ford to design motor drives. Ford's CEO concluded that the project wasn't viable and shelved it. It took another decade to realize PowerBoost.

There has always been a mantra in the EV space - "we are 5years out". GM was 5 years out with the EV1. Every manufacturer that I spoke with in 2011 was 5 years out. Some of it is executives that want to be seen as doing something. Some of it is government policy ("free" money, fleet efficiency, etc.) creating transient pushes. Ultimately, market dynamics yield to the value of the problems being solved.

So, here we are in 2024 and we are 5 years out. We were promised that billions were being spent on charging infrastructure, but what are we at - 8 new charging stations? My experience has been that half of those are probably not working correctly. The fingers of blame keep getting pointed and decision-makers still don't know how to solve problems for the buyers that might otherwise be motivated.

 

[powerboatr]

Part of the ebb and flow. Remember 2011, when Ford and Toyota were collaborating on a hybrid truck? One of my customers was working with Ford to design motor drives. Ford's CEO concluded that the project wasn't viable and shelved it. It took another decade to realize PowerBoost.

There has always been a mantra in the EV space - "we are 5years out". GM was 5 years out with the EV1. Every manufacturer that I spoke with in 2011 was 5 years out. Some of it is executives that want to be seen as doing something. Some of it is government policy ("free" money, fleet efficiency, etc.) creating transient pushes. Ultimately, market dynamics yield to the value of the problems being solved.

So, here we are in 2024 and we are 5 years out. We were promised that billions were being spent on charging infrastructure, but what are we at - 8 new charging stations? My experience has been that half of those are probably not working correctly. The fingers of blame keep getting pointed and decision-makers still don't know how to solve problems for the buyers that might otherwise be motivated.

Very well stated
Many forget about access to charging stations
Urban areas not so much
But more suburban and rural it's an issue
In my area 50 mile radius nets you 2 stations , split between 2 ford dealers
And 3 together at a city building , with impossible parking unless your the size of a smart car .
Then look at Houston area last month, from a baby hurricane
Power out for weeks...no body had charge access
For our normal weekly needs here a ev would work...we don't go much more than 30 miles once or twice a week
So using one as the grocery getter would work.
But anything outside that I want a ice or hybrid

 

[HammaMan]

So, here we are in 2024 and we are 5 years out. We were promised that billions were being spent on charging infrastructure, but what are we at - 8 new charging stations? My experience has been that half of those are probably not working correctly. The fingers of blame keep getting pointed and decision-makers still don't know how to solve problems for the buyers that might otherwise be motivated.

Indeed -- 40 years on, and we're still just 2 decades away from fusion power plants

 

[powerboatr]

Indeed -- 40 years on, and we're still just 2 decades away from fusion power plants

Omg I remember grade school
Teachers in science talked about fusion reactors would change the world by 1990
This hmmmm was early 70s. For me

 

[Kodiak]

I want my flying cars! I was promised flying cars! I don't see any flying cars!

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