Continuously Controlled Damping (CCD) Experiences

[Snakebitten]

The truck will operate if the system is in fail state.
I'd unplug one and drive around a few days and see how the truck feels with what is essentially an aftermarket damper with an increased (firmer) damping rate.

Removing them would be similar to unplugging them, right?

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[Polo08816]

The truck will operate if the system is in fail state.
I'd unplug one and drive around a few days and see how the truck feels with what is essentially an aftermarket damper with an increased (firmer) damping rate.

Removing them would be similar to unplugging them, right?

I would imagine that would throw a fault code.

 

[Snakebitten]

It's a soft code.

Similar to the the one I get from removing the louvers in front of my Intercooler.

These trucks throw softcodes on a high percentage of start-ups that most folks are not even aware of. But I understand if someone would be uncomfortable with that.

I guess their MIGHT be some edits that could be done with Forscan that would address the disabled CCD.

 

[oneinch]

I have CCD. I never noticed the ride. Better? Worse? I couldn't tell. I said noticed because right now the ride height sensors think my empty truck is overloaded. I installed lowering shackles so to the sensors the truck is squatting. I can't tell a difference at all between before and after lowering. I would like to know if there is a way to re-zero the ride height? If I look at the onboard scales it is as red as red can be.

It was relatively inexpensive, but if I could have a do over I wouldn't order CCD/onboard scales/smart hitch. No value for me.

 

[Polo08816]

It's a soft code.

Similar to the the one I get from removing the louvers in front of my Intercooler.

These trucks throw softcodes on a high percentage of start-ups that most folks are not even aware of. But I understand if someone would be uncomfortable with that.

I guess their MIGHT be some edits that could be done with Forscan that would address the disabled CCD.

If that's the case, then that's fine. I would consider aftermarket suspension such as Bilstein 6112/5160 or the Fox 2.5 and just want a way to be able to disable CCD.

 

[Snakebitten]

If that's the case, then that's fine. I would consider aftermarket suspension such as Bilstein 6112/5160 or the Fox 2.5 and just want a way to be able to disable CCD.

There's considerable difference between a Bilstein 5100 and a Fox/Icon/King 2.5 series.
Just my opinion. I've been a suspension nerd all my life because in my youth nothing came with a suspension. ?

Again, if the underdamped CCD in Normal mode isn't satisfying enough, and it's NOT for me, there's things that you can do in an attempt to "dial it in" before you give up on it. One thing for sure is it responds to tweaking no differently to any other analog damper system.

@oneinch I think there's a calibration routine you can run against your height sensor/scales to reset the zero point. I too have scales but only consider them a vague indicator. It's not capable of being scientifically significant to me, so I don't fret much. However zeroing it out can make you feel better at least.

 

[oneinch]

I think there's a calibration routine you can run against your height sensor/scales to reset the zero point

I would think so, but I have no clue. I've never used the scales, but it kinda sorta bugs me the feature is useless now. I like the lowering shackles more than the CCD/scales. The choices we make.

I'll be getting an oil change soon. I was going to test the dealer's knowledge and willingness to help out. From the get-go they won't know, but will they try to find out? I'll see. If it can't be it's no big deal to me.

EDIT: I checked out scale mode on my truck. I can't use it because my payload limit has been exceeded. I can raise the truck with a floor jack under the hitch and the weight goes down. I can play around with this and maybe I can reset my scale.

 

[oneinch]

I just tried jacking up the truck from the hitch. Sure enough and as I already knew, the truck scales reads this as weight being taken out. I switched to scale mode and zeroed the scale. As soon as I returned the weight of the truck back on the suspension it went to overloaded mode. I'm pretty sure the ride height sensors on the shocks need to be zeroed. Hopefully this is possible by the dealer or better yet with FORScan. ?

 

[Snakebitten]

I am almost 100% sure FDRS has the calibration procedure available.
But I think I've read that Forscan now has the ability to calibrate too?

Don't take that to the bank though.

 

[Polo08816]

There's considerable difference between a Bilstein 5100 and a Fox/Icon/King 2.5 series.
Just my opinion. I've been a suspension nerd all my life because in my youth nothing came with a suspension. ?

Again, if the underdamped CCD in Normal mode isn't satisfying enough, and it's NOT for me, there's things that you can do in an attempt to "dial it in" before you give up on it. One thing for sure is it responds to tweaking no differently to any other analog damper system.

@oneinch I think there's a calibration routine you can run against your height sensor/scales to reset the zero point. I too have scales but only consider them a vague indicator. It's not capable of being scientifically significant to me, so I don't fret much. However zeroing it out can make you feel better at least.

I agree with that. Fox 2.5 series is a step up from the Bilstein 6112/5160 combo.

However, this may be a non issue because the 2024 F150 order guide seems to indicate that CCD is only included on the F150 Platinum High 702A package.

 

[DBL R]

One issue with unplugging is that you will lose drive select function. If popping between sport, normal, and tow is important to you for the transmission vs ice changes then it’s a headache.

 

[Snakebitten]

One issue with unplugging is that you will lose drive select function. If popping between sport, normal, and tow is important to you for the transmission vs ice changes then it’s a headache.

I did NOT realize that.
That's a deal breaker long term for sure.
Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[isthatahemi]

I am almost 100% sure FDRS has the calibration procedure available.
But I think I've read that Forscan now has the ability to calibrate too?

Don't take that to the bank though.

My truck....somewhere in the scale mode, it is very easily reset to 0, and it will ask how much weight in accessories are present during the procedure. No manual, software or hardware required. I can't recall the exact steps but it was a simple case of looking at what the other symbols on the screen do.

 

[ValpoMike312]

I would like to know about your experiences with CCD and towing a camping TT or any fairly heavy trailer really. Around 7,000 lbs or so. Does the CCD system help with controlling trailer sway?
My current 2021 KR does not have CCD and I was thinking of ordering a new KR with CCD but I am curious what you guys think of that idea, real world experiences !
Thanks

 

[wessermgm]

Man, reading through this thread has me spooked. I have a 2024 KR on order with CCD standard. Didn't want it, but comes with it. My current truck is FX4 so I have never had it. Didnt realize you couldn't put coliovers on it. Now I am thinking about changing my order to add FX4 just to delete CCD.

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