Blue cruise 1.4 issues?

[Spiffy]

That's funny you mentioned the pscm. I saw a few codes but they cleared. Then it came back.
Becides Jesse who else can help me with side loading?

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[rugedraw]

Further developments with my truck and ford. This update from ford's engineers sounds like they are throwing darts.


"""Hey Jeff, directly from our Ford Engineer, "With the testing completed so far, I'd double check connector C423 for pin fit concerns and for sufficient drag. If no pin fit concerns, ensure splices S417 and S418 are in good condition. If no concerns are noted, I'd recommend replacing the rear parking aid sensors and retest. If the concern remains, replace the IPMA again as it could be defective. If the concern is still present after this, it is possible that a software concern is present and will require further research."


They talk about checking connectors that are not even related and talk about replacing the rear sensors. Then they talk about replacing the new ipma they put in with yet another one. THEN they touch on a possibility that the software could be to blame.

I talked to the head of the shop to confirm they weren't trying to resorect the bad ipma I brought in. It would calibrate but had errors with sensors. It's a internal problem.

We discussed the possibility that the new 1.4 update has bugs.
1. My ipma that Jesse programed me a year ago worked great. It had 1.2 and APA that my original didn't have and couldn't have because it lacked the lin chips. I was fat and happy until I ran updates. After the update, my CMR bricked and my ipma died. Sent to Jesse to confirm. He got the CMR working but not the ipma.

So I bought a new ipma from ebay. Jesse sent the link. When I installed it and had Jesse remote in we did a PMI from server. The new ipma wouldn't calibrate. Jesse had no other suggestions other than possibility if a bad cable. At that point I took it my dealer. Instead of replacing the cables ford started with a new ipma. My dealer let me put in my old original ipma that was useless anyway. It also was damaged.
They didn't care as it was going to go back as core. They released my truck so I could swap the ipmas. So I keep the ipma that Jesse and I just programed.
Lo and behold the old damaged ipma was compatible. Note,, it had not been updated.

How my dealer and I left it was they have to do what ford's engineers suggest, check connectors, replace sensors then order a new ipma. If they stray from what the engineers say to do they will not get paid. If that doesn't work then I sit until they find a software bug. That could be weeks.

My service guy and I discussed that when they do the PMI , that they pull the image off the original. Do not say "no" to the question if the original is available. Don't pull data from the servers. The Ford servers will have the newest ipma software that could be buggy. We were spitballing.
He also said I he could release my truck while waiting on parts and support my effort to try the new cables. They won't cover the costs because it's not in the engineers plan.
But at this point having my truck sitting in the shop for days on end is costing me money.

My service manager and I both agreed that it's one of two things.
Bad cable or bad software. My dealer can't address those because ford hasn't authorized them.
So I have to sit and wait until the idiots at ford do there thing.

I'm asking the same thing. Can a older version of the ipma be side loaded or can a new PMI be done using the original non updated ipma?

Yes, you can side load an older version of the IPMA software. However, that won't fix anything if the issue is hardware related. Seeing as countless people are running the newer IPMA software, I doubt that's the issue. I can get you the files when I get back in a few days if you want to try that.

 

[Spiffy]

Yes your right about hardware.
I got a text this afternoon from my dealer. He said ford engineers are going to try a third ipma.
Wtf!!!
So I went to another big dealer. I sat down with the service manager and discussed moving my truck over. He looked at my pts and shook his head.
He askd if they followed the service bulletin. I said no. He said he has a wizard of a tech that has fixed this issue b4. He thought the same thing that the as built data could have bugs when it came to pmi a new ipma. They have seen it on another truck.
He asked if they went straight to the as built server data or took the files off the original. I said they skipped the old module and went straight to the as built.
As far as cables they had both and they matched my vin. I bought them. 29.00 total.
Monday I'm going to let my old dealer have one more stab at it and that's it. Now that I have the cables they refuse to try
I'm taking my truck back and trying the cables on the new ipma that Jesse and I programmed. If that doesn't work the new dealer is going to try to use the data off the old original ipma and do another pmi. Unless they tried to update the original. If that doesn't work I will need to side load the files.


This all would have been easier if they just followed the service bulletin.

At least I have a new path.

I can't believe they thought trying 3 ipmas would fix it. You would think a 29.00 cable would be the first thing to try especially when it's called for in the SB.

 

[ReverendQ]

Yes, you can side load an older version of the IPMA software. However, that won't fix anything if the issue is hardware related. Seeing as countless people are running the newer IPMA software, I doubt that's the issue. I can get you the files when I get back in a few days if you want to try that.

Welcome back.

 

[Spiffy]

Well i have an update. My dealer called me and said they can't figure out why three different ipmas won't calibrate.
They have given up. Can ford just do that when I have a Warranty?
They said the engineer thought it might be a software issue.
I'm picking it up tomorrow.

Here in this group we started a conversation about the possibility that the new ipma update broke it.

The old original ipma when installed worked to calibrate. No dtc. It had other issues that kept it from working like no rear sensor support.
The old ipma had older software.
The new ipmas were PMI using AS Built from servers.

Dealer tried three different ipmas and in the end said they jumped new cables as well.
They didn't replace the camera as outlined in the service bulletin.

So that leaves me with a law suit or attemp to try to work with the software.

I'm not sure if the old original ipmas software is still intact. I'm hoping they didn't try to do PMI on it. If not I have a ipma with software that works.

Rugdraw if you reading this , you said you have the old version.
Can I try to side load that?
Or can I try to do another module swap process but click that I have the original installed and not have fdrs pull the new software version but use the saved data from the old one? Can a PMI even be done again?

It looks more and more like it's a software issue and I hope with the awesome wisdom here i can get thus fixed.

 

[rugedraw]

Well i have an update. My dealer called me and said they can't figure out why three different ipmas won't calibrate.
They have given up. Can ford just do that when I have a Warranty?
They said the engineer thought it might be a software issue.
I'm picking it up tomorrow.

Here in this group we started a conversation about the possibility that the new ipma update broke it.

The old original ipma when installed worked to calibrate. No dtc. It had other issues that kept it from working like no rear sensor support.
The old ipma had older software.
The new ipmas were PMI using AS Built from servers.

Dealer tried three different ipmas and in the end said they jumped new cables as well.
They didn't replace the camera as outlined in the service bulletin.

So that leaves me with a law suit or attemp to try to work with the software.

I'm not sure if the old original ipmas software is still intact. I'm hoping they didn't try to do PMI on it. If not I have a ipma with software that works.

Rugdraw if you reading this , you said you have the old version.
Can I try to side load that?
Or can I try to do another module swap process but click that I have the original installed and not have fdrs pull the new software version but use the saved data from the old one? Can a PMI even be done again?

It looks more and more like it's a software issue and I hope with the awesome wisdom here i can get thus fixed.

Yea, I have the files. @ReverendQ is having a similar issue where his IPMA won't calibrate and is going to flash the ACJ files on his to try it out.

 

[Spiffy]

I don't have a cule how to do that. Can it be done remotely?

 

[rugedraw]

I don't have a cule how to do that. Can it be done remotely?

Yea, I can help you with it if you want. You will need to have the truck connected to a 20amp power supply like with FDRS updates and it will take three hours to do. Is your truck a 5.5" or 6.5" bed? Do you have tow mirrors or the regular ones?

 

[Spiffy]

I'm very familiar with fdrs. I have tow mirrors and 6.5 bed. Im picking up the truck in the morning.
It has the original ipma that is defective in it now. I'm hoping it still has the original files but I won't know until then.
I have a ipma that Jesse had me buy. We did a PMI on it . ASbuilt files. What would be the best ipma to have in it?

 

[rugedraw]

I'm very familiar with fdrs. I have tow mirrors and 6.5 bed. Im picking up the truck in the morning.
It has the original ipma that is defective in it now. I'm hoping it still has the original files but I won't know until then.
I have a ipma that Jesse had me buy. We did a PMI on it . ASbuilt files. What would be the best ipma to have in it?

In that case, I need to get some different files for you. I would go with Jesse's IPMA. Just message me and we'll get it set up. May be good to wait a bit and see how it goes for the other guy before taking the dive, too.

 

[Spiffy]

Im pretty much against a wall with no other options. Even the ford engineer has finally admitted that it's a software issue. Really ticked me off when they said I would have to wait until they come up with a solution. That sounds like a long time unless they start seeing this issue more.
We have tried 3 ipnas, new cables (says them) and we know the bad original ipma has no issues calibrating. (Old software)
Let me get the truck back and pop in the new ipma. I will send you a message.

How many files does that version have? I also want to be sure I'm not seeing the pscm error any more.

 

[rugedraw]

Im pretty much against a wall with no other options. Even the ford engineer has finally admitted that it's a software issue. Really ticked me off when they said I would have to wait until they come up with a solution. That sounds like a long time unless they start seeing this issue more.
We have tried 3 ipnas, new cables (says them) and we know the bad original ipma has no issues calibrating. (Old software)
Let me get the truck back and pop in the new ipma. I will send you a message.

How many files does that version have? I also want to be sure I'm not seeing the pscm error any more.

It's 11 files if I remember correctly.

 

[MrT]

@rugedraw or @Jesse-Infotainment , could I get a VIN check please. Last update I got was Jan 5, 2025. I'm a BC early adopter and paid thru 1/2027. As far as I know 1.4 should be compatible for me but so far no luck, as far as I know.

 

[rugedraw]

@rugedraw or @Jesse-Infotainment , could I get a VIN check please. Last update I got was Jan 5, 2025. I'm a BC early adopter and paid thru 1/2027. As far as I know 1.4 should be compatible for me but so far no luck, as far as I know. Thanks.

Unfortunately, Ford limited my PTS access and I can no longer see what software version the individual modules are on. You would need to check the module details of your IPMA with FORScan to see what strategy it is on to see if you can enable it with FORScan or not..

If you need your VIN checked for pending updates, please remove your VIN from the post and message it to me. I do not do public VIN checks anymore.

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