Acceptable weight for full-time payload?

[Flexin_Chunsik]

I've been thinking about my overland build and if my math is correct, I will have about #1500 of full-time payload (including driver) for the build. I couldn't find a maximum payload for MY2024 specific to each trim levels, but the technical spec sheet for MY2021 says that the RCLB 4x4 has a maximum payload of #2300. Essentially, my full-time payload will be about 70% of the maximum payload capacity. It would be nice to have HDPP to increase the payload capacity but MY24 doesn't offer that option and I'm not sure if I can find a used one with the exact cab/bed size and options that I want. I would like to hear firsthand experiences from those who have carried this much full-time payload in their trucks.

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[Popplemer]

I've been thinking about my overland build and if my math is correct, I will have about #1500 of full-time payload (including driver) for the build. I couldn't find a maximum payload for MY2024 specific to each trim levels, but the technical spec sheet for MY2021 says that the RCLB 4x4 has a maximum payload of #2300. Essentially, my full-time payload will be about 70% of the maximum payload capacity. It would be nice to have HDPP to increase the payload capacity but MY24 doesn't offer that option and I'm not sure if I can find a used one with the exact cab/bed size and options that I want. I would like to hear firsthand experiences from those who have carried this much full-time payload in their trucks.

I am not at full payload (maybe?) but I do have a tonneau, rack, RTT, awning, most of my camping stuff and my large self in my truck at all times. I don't have a garage to put this stuff in so I'm that guy driving around with his tent on all the time. I have changed my rear shocks to Bilsteins (haven't had the fronts installed yet) and added a Steeda sway bar. I have the stock tires still and I find the ride to be great with the weight in the back.

I do find the front a little floaty still with the stock FX4 shocks but once the new shocks are in I'm sure it'll be even better still. Don't forget that trucks are designed to be driven weighted down. As long as you adjust your driving style to account for the weight you'll be just fine.

 

[Unicorn]

I have a 2022 F-150 HDPP, with a max GVWR of 7850 lbs. I weighed it on a scale with GF, dog, camper, gear, full of gas, water, propane, etc. It came up to 7650 lbs, just 200 lbs below max. I made absolutely no mods to my truck suspension at all.

Since one year of ownership, most of my driving has been with the load (approx 15,000 miles of travel through America). I barely feel the truck has anything on board

I mentioned true weighed load here. Any payload from a brochure is useless. BTW, the payload on the door jamb sticker says 2500 lbs with occupants. After taking delivery of my pickup, I fueled it and weighed it right away. I did the math, sure enough, it came to 2500 lbs available.

 

[Mtnman1]

I've been thinking about my overland build and if my math is correct, I will have about #1500 of full-time payload (including driver) for the build. I couldn't find a maximum payload for MY2024 specific to each trim levels, but the technical spec sheet for MY2021 says that the RCLB 4x4 has a maximum payload of #2300. Essentially, my full-time payload will be about 70% of the maximum payload capacity. It would be nice to have HDPP to increase the payload capacity but MY24 doesn't offer that option and I'm not sure if I can find a used one with the exact cab/bed size and options that I want. I would like to hear firsthand experiences from those who have carried this much full-time payload in their trucks.

Every truck has a different max payload depending on what options are ordered.

You will never find max payload for a specific model, since it does not exists.

You need to wait and look at your door sticker when you get the truck.

There is a payload post here somewhere. Of all the stickers posted, i do not recall seeing thr same value, even on same model truck.

Fyi- i do not recal seeing anyone with a payload ar 2300 lbs...... must were under 1800. That is "dry". Before mods and people.

Mine is 1789. 22 RCSNB 4x4. 1500 of everyday payload is a lot.

 

[Flexin_Chunsik]

Thank you all very much for your inputs.

This is the max payload info I found on MY2021 tech spec sheet.

I know these numbers are probably based on bare minimum options. But MY24 XL trim doesn't really offer a lot of options to add anyway, so my guess is I can get as close as #2300.

@Popplemer @Unicorn

I'm curious what MPG you are getting. There was a guy who purchased an F150 with a flatbed camper and he reported that the MPG with a dry camper he was getting was around 16 MPG.

 

[Popplemer]

Thank you all very much for your inputs.

This is the max payload info I found on MY2021 tech spec sheet.

I know these numbers are probably based on bare minimum options. But MY24 XL trim doesn't really offer a lot of options to add anyway, so my guess is I can get as close as #2300.

@Popplemer @Unicorn

I'm curious what MPG you are getting. There was a guy who purchased an F150 with a flatbed camper and he reported that the MPG with a dry camper he was getting was around 16 MPG.

I've never hand calculated my MPG. But, if I drive like my grandpa to my second job I can average 22-22.4 according to the trip calculator. That's mixed highway surface streets (16~ miles) with all that crap strapped to the truck. Have gotten as high as 24.5 and as low as 17 but those extremes are rare. I believe having reasonable sized tires are the determining factor.

I previously owned a 21 RCLB with the 2.7L and NITTO Recon Grapplers and my MPG was awful. The max I ever achieved was 19 MPG. That truck weighed far less and I had a bed height rack with same tent. So do what you will with that info.

EDIT: I'm not sure if you're going for a Powerboost or not but there are tricks and adjustments you can do to attempt to increase your MPG. If you pay attention to the Hybrid battery state of charge you can, at times, coerce the truck to run in electric only mode when it otherwise wouldn't. Also you can prolong the miles spent in electric mode if you keep the battery topped up which will exponentially improve your MPG. I would also like to reiterate that driving style will be the number one factor in your fuel economy. Most of the time I like to play a game and do everything I can to get maximum MPG. It keeps me focused on driving.

 

[Unicorn]

My pickup truck has the V6 EB engine (twin turbo). I average 16 miles per US gallon WITH the camper on board, driving at approx 65 miles per hour.

Assuming you wish to respect maximum approved truck capacity, table found on tech spec sheet is unreliable. Correct payload is on the door jamb sticker, and ultimately by substracting the weighed vehicle figure from the maximum GVWR. Generally speaking, when this is not exceeded, a pickup truck will behave well when loaded. Over time, suspension components will likely wear a bit faster compared to driving unloaded.

Cheers,

 

[Flexin_Chunsik]

Thank you for the additional inputs!

I'm considering RCLB with 5.0. With a 70% full-time payload, minimal lift, and 35s, perhaps I can expect around 15 MPG on the highway. I've been debating between F150 and Super Duty. I like that Super Duty offers more than enough payload capacity and the front solid axle is a plus for off-road capability but the high initial investment and fuel mileage are the biggest drawbacks. Transitioning from a mid-size truck, a 3/4 or 1-ton truck feels a bit overwhelming.

 

[Popplemer]

Thank you for the additional inputs!

I'm considering RCLB with 5.0. With a 70% full-time payload, minimal lift, and 35s, perhaps I can expect around 15 MPG on the highway. I've been debating between F150 and Super Duty. I like that Super Duty offers more than enough payload capacity and the front solid axle is a plus for off-road capability but the high initial investment and fuel mileage are the biggest drawbacks. Transitioning from a mid-size truck, a 3/4 or 1-ton truck feels a bit overwhelming.

Have you considered a F250 6.7 with an 8 ft bed? Great truck and no matter what trim you choose you'll never end up with that stupid console shifter

 

[Flexin_Chunsik]

Have you considered a F250 6.7 with an 8 ft bed? Great truck and no matter what trim you choose you'll never end up with that stupid console shifter

Great truck but I am not considering diesel… too heavy for the trails and I do a lot of short drives for daily use. Probably will ruin the engine quickly.

 

[Popplemer]

Great truck but I am not considering diesel… too heavy for the trails and I do a lot of short drives for daily use. Probably will ruin the engine quickly.

Are you wed to a specific wheelbase and/or engine?

 

[Mtnman1]

Thank you for the additional inputs!

I'm considering RCLB with 5.0. With a 70% full-time payload, minimal lift, and 35s, perhaps I can expect around 15 MPG on the highway. I've been debating between F150 and Super Duty. I like that Super Duty offers more than enough payload capacity and the front solid axle is a plus for off-road capability but the high initial investment and fuel mileage are the biggest drawbacks. Transitioning from a mid-size truck, a 3/4 or 1-ton truck feels a bit overwhelming.

Well, with a lift and 35's, there is zero chance your payload will be 2300#. Your door sticker will be useless.

And 15mpg may be pushing it.

I have yet to see a 21 and up 5.0 F150 with a max payload of 2300#. And with a lift and 35's, you will be no where near.

 

[HammaMan]

24s come with more standard features. I'd be surprised if a 4x w/ no options can reach 2klbs payload. W/ full time camper the 250 will be a better fit. Not sure why you'd think the 150 would do better mileage given all of your variables are going to be close to the same.

 

[Bossharp]

Just tonight I was comparing a 2024 F-150 XL regular cab to a F-250 XL but 2×2 both gas base engine. For your intended use the F-150 5.0 will do the job but the F-250 payload would be better. The 12" screen and dash is only available for the F-150 but IF you are carful with options and speck it very very carefully a F-250 is just not that much more. Granger IS 2% back of invoice on Super Duty's last I heard also.

 

[Polo08816]

I have a 2022 F-150 HDPP, with a max GVWR of 7850 lbs. I weighed it on a scale with GF, dog, camper, gear, full of gas, water, propane, etc. It came up to 7650 lbs, just 200 lbs below max. I made absolutely no mods to my truck suspension at all.

Since one year of ownership, most of my driving has been with the load (approx 15,000 miles of travel through America). I barely feel the truck has anything on board

I mentioned true weighed load here. Any payload from a brochure is useless. BTW, the payload on the door jamb sticker says 2500 lbs with occupants. After taking delivery of my pickup, I fueled it and weighed it right away. I did the math, sure enough, it came to 2500 lbs available.

I wish you could apply the HDPP to all trims (and even to 2024+ F150s).

I'm seriously consider retrofitting the HDPP rear leaf springs onto a (future) 2024 F150 Platinum along with Load Range E highway all season tires for a better towing experience. (I know it will NOT increase your LEGAL towing limit because what's printed on the data/trailering plate is final.)

I'm not looking to overload the truck either, but I figure it would be able to handle a 7-8k flat tilt bed car trailer (to include car) better.

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