yeah I really wish someone would come out with a hybrid turbo. Keep tq similar but let her breath up top.Funny how the tuned powerboost swaps HP/TQ. Runs out of turbo at 5500 RPM though.
Different crankshaft, rods, pistons, and turbos. This comparison is the same as comparing the stock 5.0 to the 800 HP 5.2L in the Mustang GTD. Same lineage, different engines.
Yeah, the top-end of the 3.5s kinda sucks in a 'what's possible' realm, but ford focuses on the power band which really has no equal. I've seen better results short-shifting vs winding out the RPM. It's hard to compare aftermarket dyno sheets due to the fact that when dyno'd, the vehicle is already at ~2k RPM with the wheels rolling in a steady state with ~30hp worth of air flowing resulting in an unloaded turbos. An engine dyno provides notably different results in the low RPMs as seen here due to the amount of gas flowing through the turbine. 'Idling' at 2k RPM and then mashing the throttle results in numbers being skewed due to the limiting factor being turbos spooling up. This can be seen in almost all of the turbo'd motors showing the same torque power ramp which is really just idle turbos coming online. The spike/dips of the wheel dyno looks like some type of flutter is going on, either BOV or WG related.
I finally found a set that didn't cost me my right arm...Now you just need a set of the 2023 STX black bucket headlights to darken up that front end and you have a mean beast
NICE, it’s amazing how much more aggressive the black bucket halogens look. Ford should have been using these since 2021 on the STX.I finally found a set that didn't cost me my right arm...
Definitely! When I first saw them I said "that figures"
The automakers do it on purpose because they know we'll sell/trade our year old model just for the headlights ?
These limits are highly dependent upon the efficiency islands of the turbos and wastegate management of boost level. Employing an electronic, rpm-based two-stage wastegate would resolve the starvation at higher rpms when combined with the right fuel and spark mapping.
Did you do the Ford Performance or did you buy your supercharger straight from Whipple? I think my birthday gift to myself this May is the 3.0 Liter Whipple. Whipple lists it for $8,795 and Ford Performance lists theirs for $9,500. Curious the $800 savings from Whipple or if there is missing parts from Whipple that I’d need to get. The Ford performance one seems milder….but that’s not necessarily a negative.Definitely! When I first saw them I said "that figures"
Sorry to hijack a little here...
The FP and Whipple kits are identical except for the badge on the lid, the tuning, and engraving on the pulley. I think they both did away with the decal though, I didn’t get one I lot of care went into packaging! The kits are incredibly complete, organized, and meticulous! I chose the FP primarily for the tune, which Whipple wrote. It’s basically a Whipple Stage 1 with the factory safeties (for drive shaft, tires, speed limiter, etc.) The FP kit comes with the 3/36 warranty whereas the Whipple it’s optional ($600?).
appreicat that!!!!!!Don't get a Stage 1 anything. Get a Stage 2 or nothing. I personally recommend @beefcake when sourcing these parts. He is a GREAT guy to work with and I always patronize vendors who not only sell parts, but use them as test beds to show us what they do in real life. Hit up Terry and no, he didn't pay me to say this.
