2022 F150 Lariat Wiper Motor Dead from factory

[Mikey5556]

I still find it hard to believe the Ford can send out of brand new truck from the factory with the wiper motor DOA. The dealership says the motor is on a national backorder and I have to wait a month and a half before it can be repaired. Good thing rain season is after that fingers crossed. I know the 2021 had a recall of possible motor failure, but my VIN being a 22 wasn't included in any recall. Seems Ford is just slapping orders together to get them out and not doing quality control. MSRP of $68k and I can clean bugs or drive in the rain.

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[hotrodmex]

but my VIN being a 22 wasn't included in any recall.

Pretty sure it was (or rather, the latest recall) for trucks with build dates to March 23rd, 2022.

I remember because I put the pieces together between my truck being produced on March 28th then being held for a month, and a Ford employee posting about trucks being held for wiper motors at that time.

 

[Pedaldude]

Does anyone know where the wiper motors are sourced from?

Is it a new design, or the same bevel gear wiper motor style that is around a century old?

 

[Drburka]

Does anyone know where the wiper motors are sourced from?

Is it a new design, or the same bevel gear wiper motor style that is around a century old?

I'd be interested in knowing the answer to this as well.

 

[Buyer2021]

Is it a new design, or the same bevel gear wiper motor style that is around a century old?

Just FYI wipers haven't used the basic 'stone-axe' motors for a long time. On my 2014 Ford Escape the driver's side wiper motor assembly was the 'master' with an integrated logic-module containing the 'sweep-sync' for both sides (keeps the blades in-sync so they don't hit each other in the middle of the windshield where they overlap); the passenger side was a different 'slave' assembly. The motors are a 'servo' type, has nothing to do with any associated gears. Nope, those logic-modules integrated in the motor assembly are not separately replaceable / serviceable.

All of this stuff in the motor assemblies is completely separate from the various 'interval wipe' and 'rain-sensing' controls / options which are managed by the BCM.

If you've got access to the Motorcraft Subscription Service Manuals this system is explained at great length in the section about wiper controls, components, and operation.

In the 'old days' (e.g. my 2005 F150) when wipers overlapped, they used a single 'stone-axe' motor with a mechanical linkage to operate / coordinate the two sides. In the 'really old days' they were vacuum operated and each blade did whatever it wanted whenever it wanted with no overlap and little coverage (all easily within the last century but maybe before your time).

Probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is.

 

[Mtnman1]

I still find it hard to believe the Ford can send out of brand new truck from the factory with the wiper motor DOA. The dealership says the motor is on a national backorder and I have to wait a month and a half before it can be repaired. Good thing rain season is after that fingers crossed. I know the 2021 had a recall of possible motor failure, but my VIN being a 22 wasn't included in any recall. Seems Ford is just slapping orders together to get them out and not doing quality control. MSRP of $68k and I can clean bugs or drive in the rain.

Do you actually think they tested the wipers at post build inspect, they didnt work, but they shipped it anyways?

Or do you think it is more logical that the truck passed inspection, and the wiper motor failed at a later time?

 

[Buyer2021]

Or do you think it is more logical that the truck passed inspection, and the wiper motor failed at a later time?

I'm betting ^this^, that some single but critical electronic component in one of those logic-modules is a defective batch and failed early during 'burn-in' as such electronic components can sometimes do. It could easily not happen until the instant of the second or third+ time it's switched 'on' / 'hit' with power.

It's an unfortunate reality of imperfect human endeavors, but once those things get through a relatively short burn-in period they tend to be robust for a very long time.

 

[Snakebitten]

Not an excuse, but the PRESSURE on component sources for the manufacturing sector, especially automotive, is probably insane right now. And I think quality is on the back burner VS delivery agreements.

This isn't just a Ford F150 thing.
Although a fully dolled up F150 is NOT yesterdecades truck. Instead it's a rolling display of how many chips can be stuffed in 157" of coach with a bed. It only takes ONE of those chips to fail and a thread like this one is born.

 

[Buyer2021]

Not an excuse, but the PRESSURE on component sources for the manufacturing sector, especially automotive, is probably insane right now. And I think quality is on the back burner VS delivery agreements.

I agree that the pressure to deliver timely is huge for everyone in the automotive supply chain, but personally I doubt that long-established QA/QC protocols are being abandoned, shortcut, or compromised. IME big-ticket end product manufacturers (e.g. Ford) push rigorous QA/QC requirements very far down the tiers of sub-vendors that supply components for their products.

When it's eventually found, as it inevitably is, that any supplier's particular product is 'defective', the ripple-down business impact of that is usually very significant (financial penalty, loss of favorable contract terms, etc). Methinks there's very little incentive, in fact a lot of dis-incentives, for companies to play fast-and-loose on the QA/QC side of things when dealing with Ford or any other major manufacturer.

In business it's very difficult to beg delays up front but ultimately a lot better than dealing with defects later, and most know that. Just one opinion, BTDT in (non-automotive) industry.

There have always been, and always will be, a certain % of defects slip through QA/QC systems. My general sense (no statistics to go with that) is that % has not particularly 'jumped' lately. I think we're just hyper-sensitized to that in the overall context of other current supply-chain issues.

 

[Pedaldude]

...Probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is.

Before I ordered my F-150, I also checked the prices of major components, I never thought to look at the windshield wiper motor/s.

It looks like the F-150 has the old school linkage, however it answers the confusion over LH and RH wiper motor fuses in the fuse box description, despite the fact that the F-150 only has a single motor.

The Escape dual motor setup is over 4X the cost of the F-150 motor, which is crazy to think.

One of the things I notice is the bare Motorcraft motor isn’t on backorder but the Ford linkage/motor assembly is. The other thing that I notice is how light the assembly is.

The bare motor/gearbox is 2.5lbs

and the entire assembly including the motor is listed as 6.3lbs

I tried finding the linkage for previous generation trucks but no dice.

Ford might be following the Colin Chapman engineering ethos of building parts lighter and lighter until they fail.

Do you actually think they tested the wipers at post build inspect, they didnt work, but they shipped it anyways?

I wouldn’t put anything past Ford or any big corporation. I could totally see an upper level decision maker with the news that now not only do they have the chip shortages to worry about but also bad wiper motors and linkages. Then a triage happens where they send out the DOA wiper assemblies to Arizona, New Mexico and SoCal. Ford has made worse decisions before.

 

[Lippy]

Doubt it. They probably tested it well but then a supplier may not have manufactured the parts to spec.

 

[KJ018]

Good news, my part did finally come in today. Appointment for Monday. Hopefully you all should get yours soon.

 

[Tomatoboy]

Oh man, you guys reminded me of the time our Escape’s wipers got out of calibration for some reason and wouldn’t park themselves. That was fun. I hate that particular wiper design.

 

[Joe W]

2022 Powerboost

My wiper motor died at 500 miles.
Actually after only two wiper washes!

Just replaced today.

Our trucks have gotten so expensive partly so we can pay for Fords numerous recalls and failures.
You don't believe Ford is paying for it, do you.
You may think it is the warranty paying for it but no......
you already did when you bought the truck.
An extended warranty is just a punch in the face as opposed to a slap from the original warranty.

My 19 F150 had the Cam Phaser issue @ only 6000 miles. Couldn't get it fixed until 22,000 miles.
This was an issue for how many generations?

I have had a-
2001 crappy 5.4
2011 3.5 Eco
2014 3.5 Eco
2016 3.5 Eco
2019 3.5 Eco

All had multiple issues of some sort. The 19 cam Phaser was the only real engine issue besides the obvious 5.4 known fails.

I simply didn't put enough miles on them to enjoy the issues beyond warranty except the 2001 5.4 which I bailed on at 130,000.
All of the others I didn't go past 35,000.

Too many problems were simply handed down from the previous generations and new ones introduced.

And now I have a 2022 Powerboost with the 7.2 KV gen. This one has me VERY nervous. it is loaded and there is a lot going on in this truck electronically and mechanically. A lot more plumbing too.

When they are working they are generally great. But....

I trade them in with very low mileage. I don't have much faith in longevity. In any manufacturer today really.

I prefer to bail on them before the bills start and they won't be a viable trade in.

But I can't do this forever. Nor do I have the interest.

Will have to settle with a bare bones truck when I retire.
At least as bare bones as I can get nowadays. Not going to spend retirement money on ridiculously overpriced trucks and parts.

 

[F150Carpenter]

Has anyone had any luck getting a new wiper motor? I have a 2022 XLT Powerboost and mine have been acting up for a few weeks and just now during a big rainstorm they are just about dead. I talked to the dealership a few weeks ago and they are saying my order has been place but not sure when it will arrive. They literally told me there's nothing they can do to help me, didnt even offer a loaner car. Meanwhile they have 3 new F150's sitting on their lot with wiper motors that i'm sure work better than mine. Seems sad that they would rather make their money then make sure a returning custom is safe on the road.

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