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[Snakebitten]

I wouldn't buy a truck with a battery pack that has 80k on it

Did you buy one with 0 miles?
If not, then it isn't mileage you are objecting to.

Note that the battery cost a lot less than a set of wheels/tires, which folks often purchase without blinking.

I always wondered this. Because of the hybrid battery wouldn’t in theory the 3.5 engine have less miles on it since it’s not always using the ICE

80k powerboost has less “engine” miles than an 80k ecoboost?

True.
My 2022 has ~36,000 miles, yet almost 7000 of it was electric.
And I might have the highest number of hours using ProPower? I use it DAYS at a time. The hour-meter on this truck would be amazing for calculating the average speed the truck has traveled.

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[Davexxxx]

I wouldn't buy a truck with a battery pack that has 80k on it

Would you buy a truck with 20% left on the original drive train warranty?

 

[gappmast]

Did you buy one with 0 miles?
If not, then it isn't mileage you are objecting to.

Note that the battery cost a lot less than a set of wheels/tires, which folks often purchase without blinking.




True.
My 2022 has ~36,000 miles, yet almost 7000 of it was electric.
And I might have the highest number of hours using ProPower? I use it DAYS at a time. The hour-meter on this truck would be amazing for calculating the average speed the truck has traveled.

An when you need the engine to charge the battery it goes from a cold start to full bore in a couple seconds. Talk about hard on an engine, no thanks I'm not convinced. See the attached link

 

[gappmast]

I always wondered this. Because of the hybrid battery wouldn’t in theory the 3.5 engine have less miles on it since it’s not always using the ICE

80k powerboost has less “engine” miles than an 80k ecoboost?

Does it see the attached liink

 

[Snakebitten]

An when you need the engine to charge the battery it goes from a cold start to full bore in a couple seconds. Talk about hard on an engine, no thanks I'm not convinced. See the attached link

You know less about the Powerboost than I suspected. (no offense intended, but the Powerboost isn't a Prius, although most wish it did have a battery fitting a Hybrid)

The HV battery is charged at idle rpms, same as your regular Ecoboost idling. Takes about 1 minute. Sometimes a few seconds more. The incredibly short charging interval is because it's the tiniest HV battery ever. Oh the irony considering the size of the vehicle.

You can increase the charging rpms to 1300, if you so choose to. It's a setting in Sync4. I personally like that setting because the idle seems smoother and the charging is accomplished even quicker.

Unlike the typical petrol powered generator, the engine doesn't increase in rpms proportional to load. The Powerboost is a quiet, efficient, 7.2KW generator with a 30 gallon tank. It'll run my tiny houses (RV's) for days!

The Powerboost is in its 5th year of production. Soon to be 6th. It's not an unknown at this point. I'm just saying.

 

[gappmast]

You know less about the Powerboost than I suspected. (no offense intended, but the Powerboost isn't a Prius, although most wish it did have a battery fitting a Hybrid)

The HV battery is charged at idle rpms, same as your regular Ecoboost idling. Takes about 1 minute. Sometimes a few seconds more. The incredibly short charging interval is because it's the tiniest HV battery ever. Oh the irony considering the size of the vehicle.

You can increase the charging rpms to 1300, if you so choose to. It's a setting in Sync4. I personally like that setting because the idle seems smoother and the charging is accomplished even quicker.

Unlike the typical petrol powered generator, the engine doesn't increase in rpms proportional to load. The Powerboost is a quiet, efficient, 7.2KW generator with a 30 gallon tank. It'll run my tiny houses (RV's) for days!

The Powerboost is in its 5th year of production. Soon to be 6th. It's not an unknown at this point. I'm just saying.

I'm happy for you that you like it

 

[Snakebitten]

I'm only one of many 10's of thousands.

I have a couple of F150s and an F350.
They are all great vehicles. But the Powerboost has a utility punch that the others just can't match.

 

[JExpedition07]

This is why I’m done with half tons. You can bybass all this crap by leaving the passanger truck market entirely .

Half tons are becoming a joke, don’t stuff a hybrid down my throat. Matter of fact don’t stuff anything at me, PowerStroke inbound. EPA forced me to pollute about double with their bullshite. One ton land here we come!

 

[Tilstad]

I ordered mine with the 5.0, already on the lot people we're eager to buy it from me, before I even got it in my name. There's been a steady stream of random people walking up asking where I managed to find it, if they can buy it, and so on.

I'm anticipating the resale value to be quite good on these, judging by the crazy interest already just these first few months. At 100k, I would assume there to be a large difference in resale value vs a powerboost, unless Ford start pumping out 5.0's as the standard engine nationwide soon.

 

[JumboJVT]

And there's a Wyoming Powerboost here with well over 100,000 miles. Nothing but a new 12V AGM. Don't know how cold it is there, but it ain't tropical.

This isn't Ford's first Hybrid

They've actually got a long history of building them, at this point, and are pretty solid at it. We had a near flawless Cmax for 10 years. (12V batteries and a couple of rear wheel bearings are the only issues ever)

There is some additional complexity to the Powerboost over the 3.5 Ecoboost. But the Hybrid portion of the Powerboost is far from the only complexity in a dolled up KingRanch/Platinum Ecoboost.

Cold? Sure, that will impact a battery some. But touting a trouble free 100K? WTH did the owner pay $60K for then? Only 50K of trouble free use? Miles isn't the only measure, you need to add time. Time for connections to wear and corrode. Time for multiple seasons of cold winters to impact battery effieciency. Time for things to go to hell. Now add miles. Show me an 8 y/o 200K PB used exclusively north of the 44th parallel. Now show me 200 more. You can't because they don't exist...yet. Which is all I am saying.

I knew someone would bring up Ford's experience with hybrids. I get it. But in my view, unibody installations are different than body-on-frame installations. 1) The use of unibody vehicles is typically vastly different than a pickup...at least for those of us that actually use a truck as a truck: signficant payloads, uneven ground, rough terrrain, mud, dirt and dust. 2) A BoF vehicle isn't, generally, as torsionally rigid as a unibody. Add the two and there is alot more opportunity for connections between components to wear or become susceptible to corrosion. Hence my premise: the more parts, the more opportunity for failure. That someone chooses a KR just to have more parts, changes nothing in my estimation...I don't.

I have no expectation that any new vehicle will be flawless for 10 yr/200K. But it would be nice to know that SOME have been

 

[Snakebitten]

How can I mention a Powerboost with 200k miles and 10 years of ownership?

While I admit to being a huge Powerboost ambassador, I can't travel into the future and see if I'm eating crow or not.

Still, I haven't seen any evidence that the truck is fragile. I tow and I camp and I tow and I camp.... and it just keeps on doing its thing. Wickedly good at the role I am using it.

 

[Davexxxx]

When people keep moving the goal posts, its a futile exercise.

First it was concern over the battery life, then a mistaken concern over the engine and didn't even watch to the end of his own link. Then concern about connections shaking loose and corroding, rejecting high mileage as a proving point and now, demanding a literally impossible time in service.

 

[Snakebitten]

If the gentleman lived in Texas, I could blame it on August Heat.

It's about this time of year when it's obvious (to me) that most folks down here have been held hostage in indoor HVAC prison for 3 months. Their fuses have been widdled down to a nub and their cup of joy is empty.

Alas, we are just DAYS from such hell breaking, and we'll be having our morning coffee ON THE PORCH!!!

Our whole world outlook will change and our fuses will lengthen and doing a little troubleshooting on our truck will be an excuse to be outside.

(We DO get rewarded for surviving Texas Coastal Summers with 9 continuous months of outdoor (camping ) weather)

 

[Davexxxx]

I wonder if the 10yr requirement mark, is demanded of other vehicles, or just the PB? Not an auto trivia / historian, so I don't know but I wonder how many modern vehicles could claim to have a > 10 yr run of unchanged engine / trans / drivelines?

I suspect very few.

 

[Snakebitten]

I wonder if the 10yr requirement mark, is demanded of other vehicles, or just the PB? Not an auto trivia / historian, so I don't know but I wonder how many modern vehicles could claim to have a > 10 yr run of unchanged engine / trans / drivelines?

I suspect very few.

I can't answer the question, but I can almost 100% guarantee you that this Powerboost I currently have owned near 4 years WILL still be in the family at 10 years. Or put another way, while I personally would never declare my own commitment to acquiring or not acquiring another vehicle, I have lots of kids and grandkids that have dibs on my cars/trucks/lawnmowers/tractors/tools.

Somebody close WILL be driving this 2022 KingRanch Powerboost.

And again, I see no evidence whatsoever that it's not just as worthy as my other trucks are at keeping on keeping on. It's not fragile. And there's nothing about it that is rare or unrepairable.

It's the most impressive truck I've ever owned for the first 3.5 years.

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