2023 Super Duty has Digital Temperature Gauge Option on Instrument Cluster

[dhrandy]

I was watching a TFLoffroad video today and saw that the F-250 digital cluster has the option to select the digital readouts for the temperature gauges. Must be nice... must be nice... I'm aware we can do it through forscan (I haven't touched forscan), but it would be nice for it to be an option in the dash settings. Seems like it would be an easy software update.

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[Tomatoboy]

Yeah, I don’t understand why Ford doesn’t make it a selectable option. I can understand not making it the default (clutter, etc), but if it’s available to the system and can be enabled via Forscan, it seems silly not to offer it as a selection.

But then I‘ve also always thought It was silly vehicles couldn‘t display their DTCs on the dash menus ever since vehicles have had digital screens in the dash, and manufacturers don’t seem to have agreed with me on that one, either.

 

[crazywayne311]

i might be in the minority but i prefer the cluster without the numbers. muddies up the screen in my opinion. as mentioned, if it was a selectable option through the menu, that might be nice if someone was towing and wanted a more detailed reading

 

[dhrandy]

i might be in the minority but i prefer the cluster without the numbers. muddies up the screen in my opinion. as mentioned, if it was a selectable option through the menu, that might be nice if someone was towing and wanted a more detailed reading

I'd like for it to be switchable so I could have it on when towing my travel trailer and off when I'm not.

 

[crazywayne311]

I'd like for it to be switchable so I could have it on when towing my travel trailer and off when I'm not.

yes, exactly!

 

[9663mu]

I may be in minority here but I’m not a fan of digital gauge cluster on the F150. Just don’t like the layout. I do love the new GM cluster. More info and little more truck like to me. I know

 

[dhrandy]

I may be in minority here but I’m not a fan of digital gauge cluster on the F150. Just don’t like the layout. I do love the new GM cluster. More info and little more truck like to me. I know

With the Super Duty you can select it to be on or off.

 

[HammaMan]

I watched the vid particularly of the IPC and was curious as to what's powering it. Ford is supposed to be moving the better hardware in and this may be what functionality it allows for. I can say from usage of both sync4 and 4a that the current hardware is at its limits, and in the case of the larger display used in 4a, its requirements are beyond the hardware's capability. This is at least pointing to the new qualcomm chip being present. Given the commonality of parts, here's to hoping we can retrofit brains

The only hope for those who don't wish to undergo the brain transplant is that they're able to get competent programmers in and streamline the code which is likely inefficient and bloated causing unnecessary stutters.

 

[Snakebitten]

The only reason I INSIST on the digital temps being displayed is because the graphical gauge is so FAKE.

The whole point of having a gauge cluster is for monitoring the various parameters of the vehicle. Equipping it with gauges that are INTENTIONALLY gimped is a head scratcher.

I'm thrilled that the REAL information is available regardless of whether it requires a Forscan edit or a simple sequence of button selecting.

If only that oil pressure data wasn't a Raptor exclusive.

 

[JExpedition07]

The only reason I INSIST on the digital temps being displayed is because the graphical gauge is so FAKE.

The whole point of having a gauge cluster is for monitoring the various parameters of the vehicle. Equipping it with gauges that are INTENTIONALLY gimped is a head scratcher.

I'm thrilled that the REAL information is available regardless of whether it requires a Forscan edit or a simple sequence of button selecting.

If only that oil pressure data wasn't a Raptor exclusive.

You would think Ford learned their lesson with the 5.4 Triton. Sure would have saved a lot of engines if people could have seen those chain tensioners were hemorrhaging all their oil that was supposed to be making it to the heads. 8 psi and it goes to the middle, total BS.

 

[Snakebitten]

You would think Ford learned their lesson with the 5.4 Triton. Sure would have saved a lot of engines if people could have seen those chain tensioners were hemorrhaging all their oil that was supposed to be making it to the heads. 8 psi and it goes to the middle, total BS.

The current oil pressure gauge is literally a graphic that represents nothing more than the oil pressure sensor reading 7psi. It couldn't be more fake. 7psi is represented exactly the same as 70psi. It's shameful, in my opinion.
But similar to Engine Coolant Temperature and Transmission Fluid Temperature, I would be OK with the fake gauge if the actual digital values can be enabled. The PID exists! The PCM knows the oil pressure. But for whatever reason Ford doesn't want to expose it, and none of the smartphone apps have the PID mapped.

My old discontinued Ngauge (HPTuners) reads the oil pressure just fine. So does Forscan, full version. And then of course the Raptor has it natively in its IPC.

Argggghhhh ?

I want it! It's a basic lifeblood gauge for an internal combustion motor.

 

[powerboatr]

I was watching a TFLoffroad video today and saw that the F-250 digital cluster has the option to select the digital readouts for the temperature gauges. Must be nice... must be nice... I'm aware we can do it through forscan (I haven't touched forscan), but it would be nice for it to be an option in the dash settings. Seems like it would be an easy software update.

i bet the ford engineers watched all the forscan threads and said...dayum we should do that ??????
and to piggy back on what bruce wrote
my 21 f250 had oil TEMPS, in real numbers but oil pressure was that obscure number
the 6.7 has a variable output oil pump that can be full PSI at low idle or low PSI what ever the pcm demands
our eco boost has a vary oil pump...the pcm knows what it is..please let us see it
maybe they dont want us freaking when we see 12 psi or 80 psi at same rpms???

 

[Snakebitten]

I have spent countless hours monitoring the variable oil pressure pump on the 3.5 Ecoboost. It's a beautiful dance and you can easily determine that it is load based. The Gen14 3.5 Ecoboost is the 3rd iteration of the motor and it has a noticeable different oil pressure strategy on coldstarts and ICE resuming after an ICE off event. The higher pressure stage is in play more often, from what I have observed on my Ngauge.

I simply want to see the same oil pressure data when using a smartphone app since the Ngauge firmware is previous to the Powerboost and doesn't have the latest PID support.

 

[Big Dog Daddy]

I think the biggest reason the car companies are reluctant to use digital numeric gauges is because it causes controversy. Most people just don't understand there are tolerance variances in mechanical assemblies, and environmental variables that result in different readings all of the time, people don't understand "acceptable range" as an answer. It then becomes a pissing contest as to why is this 5 psi less or 10 degrees more then the other truck. The companies simply don't want to deal with this.
If you have an understanding of this, I think digital numeric is great! But I think most people are better off with the simple dial gauges.

 

[HammaMan]

You can find the gauge smoothing in forscan -- aka the fake "everything is great" values for all sorts of things.

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