Debating reordering my truck in a PB- few questions

[gooby]

I have a '22 XL 2.7 that I love. However, I should have gone PB. First off, I have a tiny cargo conversion trailer and the ability to instantly power it via the PB would be nice. Second, I idle a lot more than I thought here in the FL heat, thus I would save a lot of gas presumably with the PB. I think I've been idling in the heat and probably costing myself 7-8mpg as a result.

I barely smell exhaust fumes out of my 2.7, and I am really sensitive to them given my asthma. How are the fumes from the 3.5 PB? For example, if I had my trailer hooked up to the PB and my 6k btu AC running, would I run the risk of having exhaust fumes enter the trailer or is it a non-issue?

While I absolutely love my truck and it is pretty much perfect for me(22mpg+ with 87 octane), I definitely would like the PB. The issue will be recouping losses from selling it and upgrading. I'm gonna estimate and say it's gonna cost 7k total to do so. At which point, it might be better to just get a high end solar system for the trailer and keep the 2.7. What do you all think? I do own my truck outright, I paid it off immediately in cash due to the interest rates being atrocious.

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[JahWolf]

In my experience hooked up to a camper running around 3000 watts of power the truck turns on for 2 minute intervals every 15-25 minutes. And if you’re not using much say 1000 watts maybe 2 minutes every 30-45 minutes. I love it and have used it way more than I ever would have thought. Wouldn’t choose any other configuration for the f150. Ps it’s wicked fast too!

 

[Snakebitten]

I'm a huge Powerboost fan.
But if you are going to calculate the economic value equation and then subject it to receiving a return or break even at some point?
I don't think that's in the realm of possibility.

Do it because it's awesome and you will enjoy it. And yea, you'll have a quieter and more fuel efficient generator. But you paid for that!

 

[Ryan74]

A PB can open a whole can of worms, just look at some of the threads on here. If you’re not having any issues and are happy why change.

 

[PowerGoosed]

To be honest and up front, I did not look at any other truck but the PB. I wasn't in the market for a new truck and I had a '13 Raptor that I loved. My buddy showed up in his new PB one day & I fell in love. I have medical issues that make it difficult to get in and out of the taller Raptor and I used that as an excuse to start doing research on the PB. I quickly found that the PB outshined the '13 in every category that mattered to me. more HP, more torque, waaaaaay better mileage (averaged 11.3 on premium fuel). I only tow a 21' ski boat and rarely a flatbed trailer with a '37 chevy truck on it for shows. While the Raptor did just fine, the PB makes it a non-issue. I got my PB with the max tow package since that's how it was ordered and delivered to the lot. I technically bought mine while it was on its way to the dealership.

I am just scratching the surface with all that the PB can do, and I scour this forum for as much info as I can for education. Honestly, some of the things that come up with other trucks make me worry that it'll happen to mine too, but I keep driving and enjoying it. If something breaks, that's what the warranty is for. So far my only warranty issue was that the front cup holders "fell apart". In the long run, better the cup holders than the transmission! And yes, it is a kick in the ass to drive! Is it a race car? No. Will it make people look twice when you take off faster than most other trucks out there? Yes.

I can't testify to the generator since I haven't even touched it yet. I imagine it will work great on a blender for margaritas though.

Also, as far as "money lost", maybe factor in what the resale on the PB will be versus the 2.7? I'm no math guy and it might be a dumb decision, but it seems from what I have seen and read, the PB is the hot ticket right now and that it will maybe stay that way.

just my 2 cents.

 

[Snakebitten]

A PB can open a whole can of worms, just look at some of the threads on here. If you’re not having any issues and are happy why change.

You must know that this forum (and most forums) represent less than 1%, literally, of the vehicles regarding?

And of that tiny slice/sample, by its very nature it attracts those that DO have a problem. Similar to how a mechanic might perceive things since they ONLY see broken examples.

I have a fleet 2021 Powerboost XL (work) that is worked every day now for just short of 2 years.
I have had 2 Powerboost personal trucks, a 2021 Platinum for 50 weeks, and now a 2022 KingRanch for 6 months.
Not any of the 3 Powerboost trucks have ever seen a dealership service department.
Not a single issue.

I'm not saying that an auxiliary transmission pump couldn't go on the fritz tomorrow.
Of course it's statistically possible. I'm not being naive. But I am saying that there's somewhere north of 150,000 Powerboost F150's out there and I'm guessing MOST are just like the 3 I've experienced?

 

[dolsen]

I'm not saying that an auxiliary transmission pump couldn't go on the fritz tomorrow.
Of course it's statistically possible. I'm not being naive. But I am saying that there's somewhere north of 150,000 Powerboost F150's out there and I'm guessing MOST are just like the 3 I've experienced?

I have to agree, if they weren't "acting right" you'd have 150000 more PB members on here haha

 

[Tosh]

I think a "high-end solar" installation will be more than the cost of the 7.2 Propower in a Powerboost F-150. Panels, controller(s), batteries all add weight that the truck must pull. You might be able to get a 400 watt system for about $4K. I can't imagine how large and expensive a 7,000 watt system would be. When I was looking at solar for my old house, 15 years ago, a 6,000 watt system would've run me about $30K. However, it wouldn't be portable at all, and didn't include batteries.

 

[jcaspar]

I wouldn't change to the PowerBoost for mileage. I average about 17.8 mpg and am not lead footed. It is a great option if you want more power and can use the generator.

 

[Snakebitten]

I wouldn't change to the PowerBoost for mileage. I average about 17.8 mpg and am not lead footed. It is a great option if you want more power and can use the generator.

Just curious..... But what's the average distance for your coldstart trip?

I get EPA or better on my daily commute of 23 miles one way. But both on the way there and back I am starting with a "cold" truck and it's obvious to me that until I get to about 10 miles, it isn't any better than my previous 3.5 Ecoboost.
But at around that distance it begins to shine and quickly surpasses the ICE only truck that I compare it to.

Now once it's warmed up real good, a short trip is an opportunity for CrAzY high mileage, especially if you happen to catch it with a full SOC at the beginning of the trip.

 

[erixgix]

For the most part you already know your answer when you say you ‘should have’, the rest of it is primarily a question of swinging the $$$ or justifying it. The feedback in a Ford F150 forum is a forlorn conclusion, pseudo logic of bias groups.

What you most need is the real number to base your decision on opposed to an estimate. Look at it as a percentage of your initial purchase price. That is the happiness factor versus occasionally coming back to the desire to have it. Over the period of time you plan to own out, is it worth it to you?

Your truck is going to be worth more now than at any other time in the future. If you give in and buy one 2 years from now you’ll be worse off.

Really comes down to this. Are you someone that tends to look back and regret vs make a decision and never look back. Life is to short for regrets.

 

[mbouck3]

Just curious..... But what's the average distance for your coldstart trip?

I get EPA or better on my daily commute of 23 miles one way. But both on the way there and back I am starting with a "cold" truck and it's obvious to me that until I get to about 10 miles, it isn't any better than my previous 3.5 Ecoboost.
But at around that distance it begins to shine and quickly surpasses the ICE only truck that I compare it to.

Now once it's warmed up real good, a short trip is an opportunity for CrAzY high mileage, especially if you happen to catch it with a full SOC at the beginning of the trip.

Just curious..... But what's the average distance for your coldstart trip?

I get EPA or better on my daily commute of 23 miles one way. But both on the way there and back I am starting with a "cold" truck and it's obvious to me that until I get to about 10 miles, it isn't any better than my previous 3.5 Ecoboost.
But at around that distance it begins to shine and quickly surpasses the ICE only truck that I compare it to.

Now once it's warmed up real good, a short trip is an opportunity for CrAzY high mileage, especially if you happen to catch it with a full SOC at the beginning of the trip.

I must agree I just 20 minuts ago completed a 100 mile trip 80% highway at 70 mph and av. 25.3 mpg

 

[jcaspar]

Just curious..... But what's the average distance for your coldstart trip?

I get EPA or better on my daily commute of 23 miles one way. But both on the way there and back I am starting with a "cold" truck and it's obvious to me that until I get to about 10 miles, it isn't any better than my previous 3.5 Ecoboost.
But at around that distance it begins to shine and quickly surpasses the ICE only truck that I compare it to.

Now once it's warmed up real good, a short trip is an opportunity for CrAzY high mileage, especially if you happen to catch it with a full SOC at the beginning of the trip.

Most all my driving is commuting about 8 miles each way back and forth to work. 1/2 freeway 1/2 in town. I'm sure the short distance does not help. This is on 87 regular gas. I sometimes get in the low twenties for some trips in town and can maybe get 20 on freeway but hard to drive less than 75 here.

 

[Snakebitten]

Most all my driving is commuting about 8 miles each way back and forth to work. 1/2 freeway 1/2 in town. I'm sure the short distance does not help. This is on 87 regular gas. I sometimes get in the low twenties for some trips in town and can maybe get 20 on freeway but hard to drive less than 75 here.

Thanks for the reply.
Admittedly 75mph is pretty much an equalizer between a Powerboost and an Ecoboost, strictly considering fuel economy.

 

[gooby]

54600 out the door(includes tax) is the number I got from chapman for a PB. Seems that prices have gone up quite a bit.

I paid 50k OTD locally in August(for the 2.7).

What is the best way to go about finding out a realistic sale price for a 2200 mile mint condition '22 4wd XL? Rough spread.. looking like 9k for the PB upgrade would be a 'good' deal.

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