B&O 8 Speaker Sound Quality/Volume mod using FORScan

[bhom]

Watching this thread. @js312 did you notice any difference in bass roll off in different songs? Some songs the bass is great and others its lacking. I have it 1 click from maxed.

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[cnitty76]

Wow, I didn't expect that kind of difference out of "1B" - definitely sends more power to the subwoofer and rear speakers. I had to turn the bass down a click because the sub makes the rear window rattle now, and with it lowered it's still stronger than before.

I can confirm that the Super Duty settings and the Unleashed settings do not work. Well, technically they do but they sound like a 1980s work truck radio.

I had Spotify playing while I made the change and as soon as you hit write, you can hear the change and it's significant.

What system do you have?
I'm looking for changes to the 18 speaker Unleashed system.

 

[js312]

Watching this thread. @js312 did you notice any difference in bass roll off in different songs? Some songs the bass is great and others its lacking. I have it 1 click from maxed.

I don't think it changes any of that - I think this basically just changes where the bass goes. More to the sub, less to the front doors.

I'm still torn on which setting to leave. The problem with this setting is lower volume listening is worse since there's not much bass from the front doors and while there is more from the sub, it's too far away to be effective at low volumes. It makes the lower volume sound flat in comparison to the stock config.

For higher volume listening, the SuperCab setting is definitely better - the sub is noticeably stronger and the overall low end is improved over the SuperCrew config.

The logical question is why didn't they just do both - some low end to the doors like in the SuperCrew config plus extra to the sub like in the SuperCab config. I suspect it's a compromise due to limitations in amplifier power.

What system do you have?
I'm looking for changes to the 18 speaker Unleashed system.

I have the 8-speaker "standard" B&O.

 

[KYT]

DUDES YES.. I tried a couple other options, but the 1B is definitely way better than the 1C on my 2023 Lariat 3.5EB SuperCrew with the regular B&O. I just got the Forscan going today. Remove the double honking nonsense first, messing with the DSP/EQ was second. With 1B there's actually audible sound coming from the rear speakers, like there should have been all along.

For testing I reset fade center-center, and recentered all tone adjustments.
Amazing? no. Definite improvements to sound volume from the rears though. Not sure what it's done to the sub in the rear wall, but what is that piddly thing gonna really do anyway? meh..

 

[js312]

DUDES YES.. I tried a couple other options, but the 1B is definitely way better than the 1C on my 2023 Lariat 3.5EB SuperCrew with the regular B&O. I just got the Forscan going today. Remove the double honking nonsense first, messing with the DSP/EQ was second. With 1B there's actually audible sound coming from the rear speakers, like there should have been all along.

For testing I reset fade center-center, and recentered all tone adjustments.
Amazing? no. Definite improvements to sound volume from the rears though. Not sure what it's done to the sub in the rear wall, but what is that piddly thing gonna really do anyway? meh..

I've switched back and forth a few times. I'm currently trying 1B again, but the bass just doesn't blend well to my ears - no matter how I set the EQ or fade it's extremely obvious that all the low end is coming from one precise location far from the driver's seat and it can be fatiguing to listen to depending on the music I'm playing. Usually, a subwoofer will fill in the low end and it's not obvious where that sound is coming from, but no so with the 1B setting.

1C has less low end and sends less power to the rear speakers, but sounds so much more balanced to me.

The other challenging thing with this system in general is it's heavily impacted by temperature. I'm reasonably happy with the stock config of this system on warm days, but cold days = no bass. Those cold days make the 1B setting appealing because it helps with that issue.

 

[KYT]

I've switched back and forth a few times. I'm currently trying 1B again, but the bass just doesn't blend well to my ears - no matter how I set the EQ or fade it's extremely obvious that all the low end is coming from one precise location far from the driver's seat and it can be fatiguing to listen to depending on the music I'm playing. Usually, a subwoofer will fill in the low end and it's not obvious where that sound is coming from, but no so with the 1B setting.

1C has less low end and sends less power to the rear speakers, but sounds so much more balanced to me.

The other challenging thing with this system in general is it's heavily impacted by temperature. I'm reasonably happy with the stock config of this system on warm days, but cold days = no bass. Those cold days make the 1B setting appealing because it helps with that issue.

to me, there's so much bass with 1B, I have the sliders turned down from where they were before. it's crazy how different people's hearing can be. it doesn't sound like the bass is coming from under the Driver's seat. On a flat EQ it's pretty alright, but if I change it to [ high+0. mid+1, low+2 ] it's damn near making my head ring and eyes cross lol
I'm still playing with the EQ values, all 000 isn't ideal, and my current 012 isn't exactly right either. I might need to sort something out in Spotify EQ first, since it has more frequencies. If only Ford would give us more bands in the EQ... <ahemfordcough>

 

[js312]

to me, there's so much bass with 1B, I have the sliders turned down from where they were before. it's crazy how different people's hearing can be. it doesn't sound like the bass is coming from under the Driver's seat. On a flat EQ it's pretty alright, but if I change it to [ high+0. mid+1, low+2 ] it's damn near making my head ring and eyes cross lol
I'm still playing with the EQ values, all 000 isn't ideal, and my current 012 isn't exactly right either. I might need to sort something out in Spotify EQ first, since it has more frequencies. If only Ford would give us more bands in the EQ... <ahemfordcough>

I agree that there's too much bass from 1B. It isn't coming from the driver's seat, it comes from under the rear window behind the rear seat.

I typically have the 1C setting at low +2 or +3, and to me that's overpowering with 1B - primarily because I can pinpoint exactly where all that sound is coming from. However, if I lower it to 0 it's not enough because it seems like no low end goes to the door speakers anymore and I'm relying on the sub that's far away from the driver's seat for everything.

 

[KYT]

I agree that there's too much bass from 1B. It isn't coming from the driver's seat, it comes from under the rear window behind the rear seat.

I typically have the 1C setting at low +2 or +3, and to me that's overpowering with 1B - primarily because I can pinpoint exactly where all that sound is coming from. However, if I lower it to 0 it's not enough because it seems like no low end goes to the door speakers anymore and I'm relying on the sub that's far away from the driver's seat for everything.

ooooh, gotcha ok.
I was just listening to some Anti-Flag, Yellowcard, and BabyMetal on a ride earlier. I set every to center and 000. I had no trouble very clearly identifying the bass line, or bass drum and low toms.
I didn't try all the options, only 4? think I tried. The flat one (0) is definitely not good; unless maybe you need that one for using exogenous amps or something. It might have a use, or I would assume it wouldn't be there if someone somewhere didn't use it for something.

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To anyone reading this later besides me and @js312 this does not mean YOU will be able to hear what I can/can't or @js312 can/can't. Yes I would agree with anyone, these speakers are not as clear as they could/should be. I wouldn't argue with anyone that claimed a speaker replacement could make the soundstage better; yeah probably would with some cost. I would argue, you should definitely start with the subject matter of this thread before sinking money into changing hardware. I might still replace my speakers, it's not a dire need, but I personally feel making some tweaks with Forscan has definitely altered the situation.
I would suggest trying the options available, before replacing the hardware. Unless you just wanna, or because that's what you like to do, then yeah cool go for it!

 

[js312]

I've decided to stick with "1C" with these settings:
Treble +2
Midrange -1
Bass +4
Fade/Balance Centered (stock setting)

I've never upped the bass so much on a sound system before. I think I had it at +1 on my 2020 B&O system. The "1B" setting does help with the bass, but as I mentioned it just doesn't sound balanced to me no matter how I adjust it.

 

[MoodSwing]

I’ve been trying to change mine to both 1B and the 1C but when I click write, it reverts back to the default. The sound quality is horrible at the default but it won’t hold either of the changes.
any idea?

 

[PPK]

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to share and contribute to the forum with something I tested on my truck.
After reading through numerous threads, it became clear that simply swapping out the stock speakers wouldn't drastically improve the sound quality without investing in an external AMP. Adding a subwoofer would also require more parts and money, which I wasn't prepared for given other OEM upgrades (refer to my signature) I had planned for my truck.

So, I decided to tinker with the DSP values in Forscan.
After some trial and error, I stumbled upon a value 783-02-01: XX-- replaced with 1B that "seems" to enhance the system's power and/or sound quality to "my ears". It's a minor improvement, but it's free and makes a difference.

I've been using this tweak for over 2 months now without any issues. While it worked for me, I can't guarantee it'll have the same effect for everyone. Specifically, this tweak is for the B&O 8 Speaker and Supercrew setups. Give it a shot if you're looking to try something to enhance your sound system without spending extra cash.

JBL GTO939... what i change my fronts and another jbl in the back.. took out the center speaker.. all five originals.. in the trash. they were just philco cheap. cheap. junk. you pull them out and you will agree with me. the jbls were 2 ohm. much improved sound. quality is so much better... the original units are probably two bucks a piece if that. very cheap.... i sat in an 18 speaker unit testing with super tramp.. what crisis.. my modified system was way better... anyway.. good luck.

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