5 Star Tune on 2022 Ecoboost compared to JB4

[Csu87]

I've got a 2022 Lariat SCREW 3.5 Ecoboost with 3.31 gears for reference. All runs in Auto 4WD

Been running the JB4 since I got the truck back in August, with fuels ranging from 91octane to full e85. This is for those that are between using a piggyback that is easily removable and easy to switch maps with, vs full flash tuning that is somewhat of a pain.

I finally got my 5 star tunes after a bunch of back and forth figuring out issues with my initial tunes. Something to do with some wrong tables on my strategy code that 5 star needed SCT to address. 5 Star was great and was very responsive and kept me in the loop with the issues they were having.

The flashing process is my biggest gripe with it. Have to go under the hood, similar to the LMS tune, and flash directly to the ECU. Wish there was a way to flash from the OBDII, but right now there isnt unless you go Cobb and send them your ECU. This is where the JB4 shines, especially with the bluetooth adapter. Switching maps is easy, creating custom boost curves is easy, logging is easy. Just dont get the tranny tuning or limiter removed (my limiter is right around 102mph so it really limits your 1/4 mile times.)

Currently running a 91 performance tune. Will be working my way up to the e30 then e50 tunes as i get through this tank of gas.

after a couple days, i can already tell a big improvement over using the JB4 only. And that big improvement is almost all in the tranny. With the JB4, since you cant tune the tranny, shifting was rough 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd, Im guessing it had something to do with the torque management system.

Dragy results
0-60 JB4 - Low 5s. 5 Star - Mid 4s. I was in the low 5s on 91, regardless of where I was shifting. Ive only done 2 dragy runs with the 5star so far, but even with not hitting the correct shift points, running mid 4s.
1/8 mile - JB4 8.8 to 8.9 @75-80mph with 2.1-2.2 60ft and ~5.8 330ft. 5star only 1 run, but 8.2 @85mph with a 1.8 60ft and 5.3 330ft.
1/4 - JB4 was pretty consistently in the 14-14.1 range, but would bounce off the speed limiter so couldnt tell you an accurate time. The one run i did with the 5star, ran out of room to be going 100+ so let off towards the end, but finished at 13.2 @101mph Update: Was able to work my way down to 12.97 w/ 1.8 60ft and 8.2 1/8 mile. Had to adjust launch rpm, as I was building too much boost and the truck wouldnt hook up well.

Overall, pretty pleased with the 5 star tune so far. IMO, from a dig, it is significantly better than the JB4. Once youre moving, and in the 50-100mph range, still a slight improvement, but if thats where you want the speed and power, and dont want to go the flash route, JB4 might be the way to go for you. Over the next few months, I'll be messing around with the stock 5 star tunes and doing some of my own as well and will post updates as I get them.

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[Csu87]

Dragy results for JB4 on full E85. I apparently didnt label my e30 and e50 runs, so this is the best i have. Hoping to be through enough gas to get 5 star e30 times tomorrow.

0-60mph - Pretty much always landed in the 5.0-5.1 range. Had a couple in the 4.9s, but over a dozen in the 5.0-5.1 range. 1st to 2nd shifts being rough killed the times.
1/8 mile - 8.6-8.7s @ 81-82mph. 2.05-2.15s 60fts pretty consistently. Again, with the JB4, those 1st to 2nd shifts were brutal, and the 2nd to 3rd wasnt great either.
1/4 mile - 13.5ish @101-102. Every run hit the limiter, so that affected overall times. But even with that, the 1/8 mile times line up with a 13.5ish 1/4 mile time so cant say how much of an affect it had. However, once you got past the 1st couple rough shifts, the truck is moving and should be finishing in the 105-108mph range.

 

[Csu87]

5 star e30 results. Filled up last night and got a few runs in last night/today. Will probably stop doing 1/4 mile runs after this. Truck isnt very planted at 110mph and id rather not wreck.

0-60 - Best 4.22, average of another 4-5 runs 4.3.
1/8 mile - Best 8.04 w/ 1.8 60ft. Had an 8.10 and 8.14 w/ 1.83 and 1.91 60fts
1/4 mile - Best 12.59 @ 108mph. This was on the 8.04 1/8mile. Also had 12.67 @ 107mph and 12.68 @ 108mph

I've noticed with the e30 tune, I can build a little too much boost when launching and the truck will spin the tires too much to get a good time if I dont launch in the 2200rpm range. Its pretty cold here, teens and 20s, so I'm sure that isnt helping with the grip, so once it starts warming up, i'll try these again. Also need to work on the 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd shift points. Just putting in auto, 0-60 runs are netting about 4.4 ish. Manually shifting, I can knock that down some, but I'm not hitting my shift points consistently.

Overall, pretty pleased with the e30 tune. Was hoping for lower 12s, but I think with some better driving/shifting and road conditions, that is possible.

 

[Csu87]

Last of the e30 runs before I move on to e50 this weekend.

Pretty happy with the results so far. My normal spot had a cop sitting nearby so had to switch it up and found a new spot with a road in better condition. Temps were also in the upper 30s. It definitely helped with launching as I was able to build more boost.

0-60 - 4.19s
1/8 - 7.95s @ 87mph
1/4 - 12.49s @ 108mph

 

[Mortonsk9s]

I still haven't used my e-50 because I have heard stories of people burning up plugs and cylinders on the last gen body 3.5. I plan on doing some revisions on the e-30. Let us know your results. I disagree with you on high speed pass and being planted. My old sport cars including my last ls1 T/A felt less planted at over 100 then these trucks with aftermarket tires no float at all which is surprising. I have done some high speed runs around 130 in Mexico in my last gen and it stuck to the ground and would navigate the lanes well. 118 is what I hit in the this one and still firm before I let off because I was worried about damaging the factory brakes. All done in safe conditions without traffic. Now cornering is another animal I would not corner these trucks hard at all. Drive shaft is a major concern at those speeds.

Keep up the good work and let us know how that e-50 turns out.

 

[Csu87]

I still haven't used my e-50 because I have heard stories of people burning up plugs and cylinders on the last gen body 3.5. I plan on doing some revisions on the e-30. Let us know your results. I disagree with you on high speed pass and being planted. My old sport cars including my last ls1 T/A felt less planted at over 100 then these trucks with aftermarket tires no float at all which is surprising. I have done some high speed runs around 130 in Mexico in my last gen and it stuck to the ground and would navigate the lanes well. 118 is what I hit in the this one and still firm before I let off because I was worried about damaging the factory brakes. All done in safe conditions without traffic. Now cornering is another animal I would not corner these trucks hard at all. Drive shaft is a major concern at those speeds.

Keep up the good work and let us know how that e-50 turns out.

I'm more used to sporty sedans than a truck at those speeds so could be part of it.

I agree though my trans am doesnt feel planted at 100+

Now my old 335 or current genesis g70, those feel planted at 150+

Should be through enough of the e30 today to move on to e50 tomorrow. Installing a new ethanol measuring gauge this weekend as well (innovate) so i don't have to use the Fuel-It app for e content.

Will be doing a lot more logging on e50 to make sure everything is running right as well.

 

[nomarhits400]

I'm more used to sporty sedans than a truck at those speeds so could be part of it.

I agree though my trans am doesnt feel planted at 100+

Now my old 335 or current genesis g70, those feel planted at 150+

Should be through enough of the e30 today to move on to e50 tomorrow. Installing a new ethanol measuring gauge this weekend as well (innovate) so i don't have to use the Fuel-It app for e content.

Will be doing a lot more logging on e50 to make sure everything is running right as well.

Nice. Still have my ‘07 Cobb tuned E92 335. Still pulls like a tank after 15 years and runs low 12’s all day. Crazy to think you can actually get a 6000 pound truck anywhere near that…. Kind of scary actually.

 

[Mortonsk9s]

I'm more used to sporty sedans than a truck at those speeds so could be part of it.

I agree though my trans am doesnt feel planted at 100+

Now my old 335 or current genesis g70, those feel planted at 150+

Should be through enough of the e30 today to move on to e50 tomorrow. Installing a new ethanol measuring gauge this weekend as well (innovate) so i don't have to use the Fuel-It app for e content.

Will be doing a lot more logging on e50 to make sure everything is running right as well.

Keeps us updated on that as well so you have a link of gauge. I am interested.

 

[Csu87]

					Keeps us updated on that as well so you have a link of gauge. I am interested. Here's the Guage kit https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/mtx-d-ethanol-content-percentage-fuel-temp-gauge-kit.html

 

[Mortonsk9s]

					Here's the Guage kit https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/mtx-d-ethanol-content-percentage-fuel-temp-gauge-kit.html

Thank you, I think on the gauge itself I remember using a gm flex fuel module i put inline with the fuel line. Kinda wish i would of kept it back in the day.

 

[Csu87]

Looks like i never updated my e50 results. This is after 1 revision. Need some more revisions, as its not quite where I think it should be, but life, and a lot of road construction in my area, has hindered my ability to get any good runs/logs.

e50
0-60 - 4.09
1/8 mile - 7.92 @ 88mph with a 1.8 60ft
1/4 mile - 12.42 @ 108 with a 1.8 60ft

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