Axles replaced now what?

[TarnishedCopper]

I was looking at Walmart and they list the H-6 battery, the H-7 battery, but NOT a H-8 one. Of course I was using their look-up. They list several batteries with no H number.

I was looking at Walmart only because they are in every one-cow town in the country.

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[Henfield]

The Ford pass app changes and evolves over time like any other app out there. Its not to blame for any battery issues on the truck.

@Porpoise Hork says, if the BMS isn't reset when the new battery is fully charged, then you are never going to get the best out of any new battery. FWIW, no battery off the shelf is likely to be fully charged, so trickle charge to build the battery to full strength before resetting the BMS.

BMS exists in large part to protect the battery so it can start the vehicle despite the lack of usage.

 

[Buyer2021]

I was looking at Walmart and they list the H-6 battery, the H-7 battery, but NOT a H-8 one. Of course I was using their look-up. They list several batteries with no H number.

That's because the H8 is not an OE size for Gen 14 ICE F150s (so Walmart considers it "incompatible" when you search their database by make-model-year).

However, the battery tray, hold-down bracket / strap, and cable lengths on all Gen 14 ICE F150s easily accommodate an industry standard H8 battery. Many of us have done this swap with no problem.

Yes, the BMS must be reset when, and only when, a NEW battery is installed. This does not require any external tool, the procedure is in the 2022 F150 Owner's Manual in the "Maintenance" section under "Changing the 12V Battery". Here it is clipped verbatim for your convenience:

Battery Sensor Reset​

When you install a new battery, reset the​

battery sensor by doing the following:​

1. Switch the ignition on, and leave the​

engine off.​

Note: Complete Steps 2 and 3 within 10​

seconds.​

2. Flash the high beam headlamps five​

times, ending with the high beams off.​

3. Press and release the brake pedal three​

times.​

The battery warning lamp flashes three​

times to confirm that the reset is​

successful.​

Finally, addressing another 'concern' you've expressed, if you do a battery-swap in reasonably prompt fashion (I.e. a normal typical working procedure and pace) you will not 'lose' any presets or other info relating to any infotainment / navigation / etc. All of that 'volatile' data is supported by various system capacitors which provide power to preserve that data for the time needed to do a typical battery swap.

I've "been-there, done-that", have first-hand personal experience, for all of the above, I've got no reason to lead you astray, just trying to be helpful in the spirit of the forum.

As a matter of curiosity: What is the trim level, engine, and drivetrain (2WD/4WD) of your 2022 F150?

 

[FirstFord]

I replaced my battery out of my own pocket while the truck was under warranty. It solved virtually ALL of my power related issues. There are many threads on this topic in this forum. I'd just add to make sure the battery is truly fully charged (don't accept the notion that it is fully charged when you get it off the shelf), then install and reset BMS.

 

[Billflangjr]

My factory AGM is 4 years old. No problems. I’ll replace it before winter. I have an XLT. Might make a difference.

I have had 16,18,20 all FX4s no battery problem's and a new 24 Tremor the Battery seams to go to sleep on that truck a lot !! Real power drain some where. It's is loaded 402A. and I don't drive it a lot. Just a heads up !!

 

[Billflangjr]

Save yourself
Save yourself a ton of time and effort and just go buy an upgraded/larger battery from NAPA (or wherever you want). I went NAPA H8 and it solved so many of the low power issues.

And I just disconnected the ford pass app and don’t miss it at all. Not worth the data harvesting ford does. Not that ford probably isn’t doing it anyways.

So what's the deal with the Axle's being replaced ?

 

[Buyer2021]

FWIW, no battery off the shelf is likely to be fully charged, so trickle charge to build the battery to full strength before resetting the BMS.

Just FYI, the BMS can be reset at any battery state of charge with no ill effect whatsoever, short-term or long-term. I recommend doing the BMS reset immediately upon installation of a new battery, so the task is not forgotten. There is no reason for delay, the BMS will self-recalibrate to an accurate SOC during the next 'rest period' of the vehicle (this self-recalibration occurs with regularity during 'rest periods' of sufficient duration).

I agree, it's a good idea to use a charger on a newly installed battery to bring it to full capacity, but that can be done after BMS reset with no ill effect as long as you connect the charger in the proper fashion (negative lead from charger to the negative ground-bolt on the fender adjacent to the battery, NOT to the battery terminal itself).

 

[Snakebitten]

So what's the deal with the Axle's being replaced ?

Ford redesigned the rear axle on Max-Tow equipped F150

 

[TarnishedCopper]

Save yourself
Save yourself a ton of time and effort and just go buy an upgraded/larger battery from NAPA (or wherever you want). I went NAPA H8 and it solved so many of the low power issues.

And I just disconnected the ford pass app and don’t miss it at all. Not worth the data harvesting ford does. Not that ford probably isn’t doing it anyways.

Thanks to everyone for the input. I am going to get an H-8 battery. It the BMS that little module attached to the necative battery connector?

 

[TarnishedCopper]

That's because the H8 is not an OE size for Gen 14 ICE F150s (so Walmart considers it "incompatible" when you search their database by make-model-year).

However, the battery tray, hold-down bracket / strap, and cable lengths on all Gen 14 ICE F150s easily accommodate an industry standard H8 battery. Many of us have done this swap with no problem.

Yes, the BMS must be reset when, and only when, a NEW battery is installed. This does not require any external tool, the procedure is in the 2022 F150 Owner's Manual in the "Maintenance" section under "Changing the 12V Battery". Here it is clipped verbatim for your convenience:

Battery Sensor Reset​

When you install a new battery, reset the​

battery sensor by doing the following:​

1. Switch the ignition on, and leave the​

engine off.​

Note: Complete Steps 2 and 3 within 10​

seconds.​

2. Flash the high beam headlamps five​

times, ending with the high beams off.​

3. Press and release the brake pedal three​

times.​

The battery warning lamp flashes three​

times to confirm that the reset is​

successful.​

Finally, addressing another 'concern' you've expressed, if you do a battery-swap in reasonably prompt fashion (I.e. a normal typical working procedure and pace) you will not 'lose' any presets or other info relating to any infotainment / navigation / etc. All of that 'volatile' data is supported by various system capacitors which provide power to preserve that data for the time needed to do a typical battery swap.

I've "been-there, done-that", have first-hand personal experience, for all of the above, I've got no reason to lead you astray, just trying to be helpful in the spirit of the forum.

As a matter of curiosity: What is the trim level, engine, and drivetrain (2WD/4WD) of your 2022 F150?

Thanks again!! Mine is the LTD with the Max-Tow Package.

 

[Buyer2021]

It the BMS that little module attached to the necative battery connector?

That is what is known as the Battery Monitor Sensor, only one of several sources of data used to control the charging system.

Perhaps of interest are the attached just FYI / for your reading enjoyment.

Thanks again!! Mine is the LTD with the Max-Tow Package.

Actually, per the Order Guide, the "Max Tow" package code 53C was not available on the 2022 Limited; it came standard with the "Trailer Tow Package (incl. Pro Trailer backup Assist)" code 53A.

Given your mention of going for the H8, we'll assume yours is the 3.5EB, not the PowerBoost, correct? Is yours 4x2 or 4x4?

So, with the feature-laden Limited, yours is likely among the most power-hungry models available. I can almost assure you that if your driving does not include regular and reasonably long-duration non-stop stints, your battery SOC (State of Charge) is taking a beating no matter how large (IOW, driving short trips, especially frequent short trips, is killer).

The H8 upgrade will likely be beneficial, but only to the extent that your driving habits give it a chance to maintain a good charge. You've made it clear you don't want to hear this, but a weekly overnight on a NOCO Genius 10 charger would be a truly beneficial habit for you and your battery, IMO.

Are you a FORScan user? I ask because you might see some additional benefit in increasing your default target SOC% parameter. If your 2022EB is like my 2022EB, that's the only battery / charging related 'tweak' available to you (that model year) using FORScan. I can explain further but won't go there unless you are a FORScan user.

 

[TarnishedCopper]

Yes mine is the Ecoboost. I am Not yet a Forscan user, but it looks like I am going to be soon. I have the laptop. I only need the program and cable and some using it. I retired from the I.T. world so it should not be too difficult. I program and re-program amateur and commetcial radios, scanners etc. Thanks again for the info!!

 

[Powerboost_Law]

What does TFL stand for? is it a web site or what?

TFL = The Fast Lane's it's a YouTube channel, it's actually quite informative when they act normal and not goofy.

 

[Ghurst]

Nice skew, I might add!

I’d like to see my battery at 100% lol! Usually mine is anywhere between 66-78% according to my monitor

 

[Snakebitten]

I’d like to see my battery at 100% lol! Usually mine is anywhere between 66-78% according to my monitor

The HammaMan inspired LFP Auxiliary cheat.

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