8/2 Build Week

[upslash]

I did some extensive research on this before I bought my powerboost:

Here are my findings:

If you get a powerboost, you already have standard (regardless of Regular Trailer Tow package)

- Same heavy duty front sway bar as Trailer Tow (https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...-vs-tow-vs-max-tow-updated-doc-v4.1188/page-9)
- Same 7350 GVWR frame (all powerboosts)
- Same 3.73 Rear locking differential
- Same 9.75 (non HD) rear axle as regular & Max Trailer tow package Powerboosts (https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/2021-f-150-weights-specs-pdf.10601/ pg 20 & 32)
- Same largest radiator (https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/2021-f-150-weights-specs-pdf.10601/ pg 20)
- Same lack of aux trans oil cooler. You cannot get an auxilliary trans oil cooler on 2021 non-Raptor (https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/...-guides/2021_Ford_RVandTrailerTowingGuide.pdf pg 20)
- Same brake disc size (https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/2021-f-150-weights-specs-pdf.10601/ pg 33)

The only difference I found between a Powerboost with Class IV and Tow Tech compared to Trailer tow:
- Trailer Tow gives larger parking brake (pg 33 https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/2021-f-150-weights-specs-pdf.10601/)

So you have same cooling, same chassis, same capacity hitch, and same disk brakes as trailer tow + brake controller.

The only thing you don't have is the larger parking brake.



I think if you use blocks and are smart when parking, you should be good to tow to the Regular Trailer Tow package rating with Tow Tech + Class IV on a Powerboost.

Also note that ford's subnote in their tow rating guide says "without Trailer Tow and only the Class IV hitch, do not exceed 7K..." They make no mention of Tow Tech, so the above may assume you don't have a brake controller.

Very informative post. Thanks for sharing your collection of research and sources.

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[someday]

And I don’t plan on towing 11k lbs, just like knowing I have a large buffer.

This is exactly why I went to the Towing Package and not Tow Tech. My current boat and trailer is just over 5k lbs. If I go up a few feet (which is always a possibility with boats) I'm looking at maybe a 3k overall increase. I don't want to be told by Ford that I was over trailer weight if there's a problem then, even though it's the same equipment. They state 11k with Tow Package.

 

[dmac]

I did some extensive research on this before I bought my powerboost:

Here are my findings:

If you get a powerboost, you already have standard (regardless of Regular Trailer Tow package)

- Same heavy duty front sway bar as Trailer Tow (https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...-vs-tow-vs-max-tow-updated-doc-v4.1188/page-9)
- Same 7350 GVWR frame (all powerboosts)
- Same 3.73 Rear locking differential
- Same 9.75 (non HD) rear axle as regular & Max Trailer tow package Powerboosts (https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/2021-f-150-weights-specs-pdf.10601/ pg 20 & 32)
- Same largest radiator (https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/2021-f-150-weights-specs-pdf.10601/ pg 20)
- Same lack of aux trans oil cooler. You cannot get an auxilliary trans oil cooler on 2021 non-Raptor (https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/...-guides/2021_Ford_RVandTrailerTowingGuide.pdf pg 20)
- Same brake disc size (https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/2021-f-150-weights-specs-pdf.10601/ pg 33)

The only difference I found between a Powerboost with Class IV and Tow Tech compared to Trailer tow:
- Trailer Tow gives larger parking brake (pg 33 https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/2021-f-150-weights-specs-pdf.10601/)

So you have same cooling, same chassis, same capacity hitch, and same disk brakes as trailer tow + brake controller.

The only thing you don't have is the larger parking brake.



I think if you use blocks and are smart when parking, you should be good to tow to the Regular Trailer Tow package rating with Tow Tech + Class IV on a Powerboost.

Also note that ford's subnote in their tow rating guide says "without Trailer Tow and only the Class IV hitch, do not exceed 7K..." They make no mention of Tow Tech, so the above may assume you don't have a brake controller.

Correction: I went under my truck just now. The part number on my parking brake is for the medium/heavy duty one here:
https://parts.sunsetford.com/p/Ford...r/75155709/JL3Z2B712B.html?partner=googlebase

So I guess I do have everything...

 

[Pixie]

This is exactly why I went to the Towing Package and not Tow Tech. My current boat and trailer is just over 5k lbs. If I go up a few feet (which is always a possibility with boats) I'm looking at maybe a 3k overall increase. I don't want to be told by Ford that I was over trailer weight if there's a problem then, even though it's the same equipment. They state 11k with Tow Package.

I just don’t feel comfortable pushing a truck to its total capacity. Knowing my actual capacity is much higher than my stated capacity makes me feel better about being around that 7k mark. I think I’m gonna keep her ? I also don’t want anything longer than 25’, but if I was to go bigger I would probably trade up to a bigger truck for peace of mind if nothing else.

 

[Yardsail]

Well, you can take me off the list. We found one elsewhere and are in the midst of a dealer transfer. Should be here by the weekend, and hopefully by the end of next week it's ready to pick up. Had to make a few changes as its slim pickings right now.

Black, Lariat, 5.5 box, sport package, 502A, 3.5 Eco, moon roof.

Hopefully it's smooth sailing now.

 

[someday]

I just don’t feel comfortable pushing a truck to its total capacity. Knowing my actual capacity is much higher than my stated capacity makes me feel better about being around that 7k mark. I think I’m gonna keep her ? I also don’t want anything longer than 25’, but if I was to go bigger I would probably trade up to a bigger truck for peace of mind if nothing else.

Yeah, 8k is about as high as I'd go even if Ford says 11. And that's with a boat, with 5-7% recommended tongue weight.

 

[emersonloyd]

whats everyone seeing as far as fuel economy so far? Ive got about 600 miles on my lariat powerboost 4x4, and am averaging right at 19.0 mpg. Most of my mileage is in the city, and is stop and go, but about 20-25% of those miles are highway.

 

[someday]

whats everyone seeing as far as fuel economy so far? Ive got about 600 miles on my lariat powerboost 4x4, and am averaging right at 19.0 mpg. Most of my mileage is in the city, and is stop and go, but about 20-25% of those miles are highway.

23.4 over 540 miles. It had ~55 miles on it when I picked it up and was less than 20 at the time, so I think I'm probably doing near 24 myself. Maybe 60% highway 40% city. My electric miles were just under 25% of total at 500 miles

 

[johnbisme]

Not much going on, though I'll post an 'update' because it's been a few days.

Yardsail looks like they'll be buying off the lot, but I'll keep them on the list until they get their new truck... you never know what will happen. I'm also taking Segev2110 off the list as it looks like they were a drive-by visitor to this thread. If they return with updates, I'll stick them back on!

Finally, my data started showing an ETA of '10/27', but the tracker still says ETA 'TBD'. My dealer's heard nothing, and my FordPass hasn't shown anyone in the truck, so until I hear more, I'll assume this is the latest in a long line of spurious delivery dates.

... but you never know!

EDIT: Dmac, did you get your truck? It sounds like you have, but didn't see a 'Here's my truck!' post, so didn't want to move you off the list prematurely


The 8/2 Limbo List

Built & More!
dmac___________ ('Delivered! Pick up the Pickup ??')
Fquinn47_________('Shipped!' ETA 10/15)
poorredman________ ('Shipped' ETA 10/29)


Still in Limbo
Pixie (Hypothetical ETA 12/31)
Johnbisme (Hypothetical ETA 'TBD')
Yardsail (Getting Truck Off Lot in Next Week or So)


(Got Their Truck!: Leadfoot21 09/14, Dresdie 09/25, Bangheadhere 09/25, PFD664 09/29, DuckDuckGreyDuck 09/29, F150_Steve22 09/30, emersonloyd 10/01, CK.Mecha 10/02, Cbaka27 (10/07), GripworksCo (10/08), Hebed118 (10/08), someday (10/08), Motosapien (10/08), SQLariatPB (10/08), Littlefield82 (10/09), SpikerS (10/09), catfishkid1986 (10/13), Josh35 (10/16))
(Got a Different Truck: Victimofareload 8/27, Chief Bast 9/2, JosephSchott 9/3, Jloyd98 9/16)

 

[dmac]

Dealer has been unresponsive since truck was delivered Saturday. Making me nervous... Hopefully they haven't sold it!

 

[Fquinn47]

Well. It came. Dealer called Monday and I picked it up Tuesday. Doesn’t feel real. But it’s a huge upgrade from my 2003 explorer sport trac. Couldn’t be happier. Good luck to those who are still waiting.
Anyone have any recommendations on ceramic coatings?

 

[Pixie]

Not much going on, though I'll post an 'update' because it's been a few days.

Yardsail looks like they'll be buying off the lot, but I'll keep them on the list until they get their new truck... you never know what will happen. I'm also taking Segev2110 off the list as it looks like they were a drive-by visitor to this thread. If they return with updates, I'll stick them back on!

Finally, my data started showing an ETA of '10/27', but the tracker still says ETA 'TBD'. My dealer's heard nothing, and my FordPass hasn't shown anyone in the truck, so until I hear more, I'll assume this is the latest in a long line of spurious delivery dates.

... but you never know!

EDIT: Dmac, did you get your truck? It sounds like you have, but didn't see a 'Here's my truck!' post, so didn't want to move you off the list prematurely


The 8/2 Limbo List

Built & More!
dmac___________ ('Delivered! Pick up the Pickup ??')
Fquinn47_________('Shipped!' ETA 10/15)
poorredman________ ('Shipped' ETA 10/29)


Still in Limbo
Pixie (Hypothetical ETA 12/31)
Johnbisme (Hypothetical ETA 'TBD')
Yardsail (Getting Truck Off Lot in Next Week or So)


(Got Their Truck!: Leadfoot21 09/14, Dresdie 09/25, Bangheadhere 09/25, PFD664 09/29, DuckDuckGreyDuck 09/29, F150_Steve22 09/30, emersonloyd 10/01, CK.Mecha 10/02, Cbaka27 (10/07), GripworksCo (10/08), Hebed118 (10/08), someday (10/08), Motosapien (10/08), SQLariatPB (10/08), Littlefield82 (10/09), SpikerS (10/09), catfishkid1986 (10/13), Josh35 (10/16))
(Got a Different Truck: Victimofareload 8/27, Chief Bast 9/2, JosephSchott 9/3, Jloyd98 9/16)

That’s exciting to see a date change. I hope that means they’re getting ready to ship it!! Mine still shows 12/31. Just got home from dealer and am strongly considering a SD instead. I really don’t want to white knuckle across the country and I’m afraid Pixie will seriously limit my towing capability. I thought the 250 would be too much truck for me but it felt pretty good on my test drive, not too big at all! Kinda made me feel like a boss bitch. Now I don’t know what to do? Just for reference I am a solo female nurse planning to travel with RV. I really like the PB for daily driver while on assignment, and the dry camping potential while traveling. But I need to feel comfortable towing long distance and through mountains etc. I’m torn…

 

[ib_jigged]

If you are planning to tow a fair amount of the time, I would not hesitate to go with a F250. Much better for towing in the long run!

 

[johnbisme]

I'd say if you're buying mostly for towing, an F250 is far superior, while the F150 is going to be much more economical as a daily driver. If you don't mind the (lack of) gas mileage from the SuperDuty, then it'll tow pretty much anything recreational-related you can hitch it to. But I'm not saying anything you don't already know or haven't already learned researching. I guess it just comes down to what priority you put on economy vs. capability. Good luck in your decision!

 

[dmac]

Dealer has been unresponsive since truck was delivered Saturday. Making me nervous... Hopefully they haven't sold it!

Welp.. Dealer finally called me back.

Said only now they will not accept X plan I got for my neighbor who's going through a leukemia battle right now. Threatened to sell the truck to 2 other customers EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A DEPOSIT ON THE TRUCK. They came back and offered MSRP and I said no.

We decided we're going to order with X plan from a more local dealer. Angry because my family has purchased 8 cars through these guys and my buddy was so fired up to get this thing this week.

I told them a month ago when I took delivery of my first order that he was going to take the second truck and gave them the X plan pin, and only now they are straight with me after not responding for a week.

I will not disclose the name of the dealer but will be happy to do business with better people here in the great state of Nevada.

Hope yall are enjoying your trucks!

 

[johnbisme]

The big news is that Fquinn47 has taken delivery of their truck at last, a nice grey one (a popular color in this thread). Congrats, Fquinn47! So now we're down to two built and waiting. Dmac, however, is pretty fed up with a dealer bait-and-switch, and it looks like they may be going elsewhere for now. For now, I'm leaving them on the list for the satisfaction of removing them when they are able to secure a truck from a friendlier dealer.

Yardsail is also looking, and Pixie may be looking soon. If they buy off the lot, then I'll be alone in Limbo. But I'm not giving up... my truck is coming... maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday.... and I'll be there to sign the check. You're out there somewhere, truck!

(That's me down at the dock staring out to sea looking for a container ship full of microchips to appear)


The 8/2 Limbo List

Built & More!
dmac___________ ('Delivered!' Buying from a Different Dealer due to Difficult Dealer)
poorredman________ ('Shipped' ETA 10/29)


Still in Limbo
Pixie (Hypothetical ETA 12/31, considering her options!)
Johnbisme (Hypothetical ETA 'TBD')
Yardsail (Getting Truck Off Lot in Next Week or So)


(Got Their Truck!: Leadfoot21 09/14, Dresdie 09/25, Bangheadhere 09/25, PFD664 09/29, DuckDuckGreyDuck 09/29, F150_Steve22 09/30, emersonloyd 10/01, CK.Mecha 10/02, Cbaka27 (10/07), GripworksCo (10/08), Hebed118 (10/08), someday (10/08), Motosapien (10/08), SQLariatPB (10/08), Littlefield82 (10/09), SpikerS (10/09), catfishkid1986 (10/13), Josh35 (10/16), Fquinn47 (10/20))
(Got a Different Truck: Victimofareload 8/27, Chief Bast 9/2, JosephSchott 9/3, Jloyd98 9/16)

 

[antimatter_plat]

Well. It came. Dealer called Monday and I picked it up Tuesday. Doesn’t feel real. But it’s a huge upgrade from my 2003 explorer sport trac. Couldn’t be happier. Good luck to those who are still waiting.
Anyone have any recommendations on ceramic coatings?

I got a front-end PPF wrap and am hitting it with CQUK 3.0 next weekend.

 

[Cbaka27]

I think I posted that my truck was missing the sensor that should have come with it for the trailer backup assist. After several trips to the dealer, they finally admitted that it should have come with it. They said they are going to order it today. Its a $528 part so I am glad they finally stepped up.

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