OBD Fusion PIDs

[bb12]

Hey Folks,

Does anyone happen to have the OBD Fusion PID equations for OAR (Octane adjust ratio) and Knock?
Any other recommended PID's that are helpful to monitor while towing a travel trailer?
Thanks,

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[Snakebitten]

I have this PID working for OAR

KR should already be available in the Ford pids available

 

[bb12]

I have this PID working for OAR

KR should already be available in the Ford pids available

Thanks! Got the OAR working
For the Ford specific PIDs, is that a purchased extra within the OBD fusion app?

 

[Snakebitten]

Thanks! Got the OAR working
For the Ford specific PIDs, is that a purchased extra within the OBD fusion app?

I honestly don't think I was charged for it, but maybe you get the first vehicle that you choose free?
I don't remember specifically because I am bad about TRYING them all. At least any of the ones that have a decent following.

I have so many OBD adapters and devices and apps and...... Lol

I'm an old man from the analog Era so you would think that I would complain about all this modern whiz-bang technology. But I'm fascinated by it and my kids would use terms like obsessed to describe how their dad is found sitting inside his cars and trucks late at night staring at a phone/tablet/laptop.

Guilty as charged.

 

[Snakebitten]

By the way, I'm one pid away from having everything I need for retiring my trusty Ngauge.
I purchased the Ngauge 6 years ago in order to tune my 2018 3.5 Ecoboost F150. It's a fantastic device for monitoring the truck because HPTuners did a great job of including everything you could possibly want to monitor in its firmware. However it was discontinued and nothing like it has ever come along to replace it.

Surprisingly it still works perfectly with the Gen14 F150 with the Gen3 3.5 Ecoboost even though HPTuners does not yet support the new pcm.

The one pid that I have not been able to discover anywhere is Oil Pressure. I don't think I am willing to live without it, so I have until the Ngauge dies on me to figure out how the Ngauge reads oil pressure, OR I will need to install an aftermarket oil pressure sensor/gauge kit of some kind.

Interestingly Forscan also has the pid, but I have no intention of using a laptop as a monitoring device. I wish I was smart enough to reverse engineer things like Forscan in order to sniff out those pid parameters. I'm surprised that oil pressure isn't desired enough for the gurus to have cracked it by now. (Like they did for OAR)

And since we're discussing things like pids, (and now Forscan) I also wish I better understood the method that the Forscan gurus use to figure out the various "mappings" of each module and then the potential edit-values to get the altered results. Those geniuses have already mapped out the VDM module on the trucks with CCD suspension. But nobody has worked on potential edits that would allow you to alter the damping settings that Ford has buried in that AsBuilt strings.

For example: one string represents the weight of the wheel and tire combination. So theoretically you could edit those values to falsely state the wheel/tire weighs more than it actually does! Wouldn't that possibly lead to the damping being increased as a result? Effectively allowing you to "tune" the damping curve accordingly?

All I really am wanting is to fool the VDM into giving me the suspension settings that Ford programmed into Sport Mode, but for when I'm in Normal Mode. CCD is a fantastic concept, but Ford is way too conservative with it, especially in Normal mode. I don't want it to ride like a Buick. I'm not THAT old. ?

 

[bb12]

Ya, pretty crazy the tech that goes into these vehicles. Hopefully someone can get you the PID equation for oil pressure soon

 

[erixgix]

@Snakebitten between all the various obd devices and apps you’ve sampled, have you arrived at a ‘short list’ that you’d recommend for folks wanting to monitor some basics like KR, OAR, and boost psi?

Something phone based versus a separate proprietary device would especially be good.

Iirc you use an android which I assume opens up more doors compared to iOS devices. I’m currently in the iOS ecosystem until next renewal but wouldn’t mind picking up some Android thing until then.

Appreciate any input.

 

[Snakebitten]

@Snakebitten between all the various obd devices and apps you’ve sampled, have you arrived at a ‘short list’ that you’d recommend for folks wanting to monitor some basics like KR, OAR, and boost psi?

Something phone based versus a separate proprietary device would especially be good.

Iirc you use an android which I assume opens up more doors compared to iOS devices. I’m currently in the iOS ecosystem until next renewal but wouldn’t mind picking up some Android thing until then.

Appreciate any input.

Let's just say that I committed to one of the choices enough to invest substantial time in editing the default gauge graphics.

I'm still one PID shy of my Ngauge tuner that I am going to retire. (oil pressure) I'm sure that it's probably a complicated calculation, but it's obvious that it exists because both the Ngauge and full version of Forscan has the PID.

But here is my current dashboard in Obdlink on an Android phone. The top portion is all ICE related and follows the factory instrument cluster color motif. Or at least I'm still tinkering with it towards that goal. (the vacant spot is for an A/F ratio gauge to replace the Lambda gauge I have been using there.

The bottom half is all Hybrid/EV information and it's fascinating once you become intimate with the relationship between HV current and SOC. You can easily learn to milk the driving conditions that you see out the windshield that the blind truck's logic can't.

 

[BlueFalcon]

Let's just say that I committed to one of the choices enough to invest substantial time in editing the default gauge graphics.

I'm still one PID shy of my Ngauge tuner that I am going to retire. (oil pressure) I'm sure that it's probably a complicated calculation, but it's obvious that it exists because both the Ngauge and full version of Forscan has the PID.

But here is my current dashboard in Obdlink on an Android phone. The top portion is all ICE related and follows the factory instrument cluster color motif. Or at least I'm still tinkering with it towards that goal. (the vacant spot is for an A/F ratio gauge to replace the Lambda gauge I have been using there.

The bottom half is all Hybrid/EV information and it's fascinating once you become intimate with the relationship between HV current and SOC. You can easily learn to milk the driving conditions that you see out the windshield that the blind truck's logic can't.

Wow. Awesome work!!

 

[erixgix]

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But here is my current dashboard in Obdlink on an Android phone. The top portion is all ICE related and ….
The bottom half is all Hybrid/EV information and it's fascinating once you become intimate with the relationship between HV current and SOC. You can easily learn to milk the driving conditions that you see out the windshield that the blind truck's logic can't.

Great! thanks for sharing. Very nice set-up

A quick search shows a number of odblink adapters that vary from $60 to $140, is there a particular one you can reference as the go to?

Glad to see there is an iOS version of the app,

 

[Snakebitten]

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Great! thanks for sharing. Very nice set-up

A quick search shows a number of odblink adapters that vary from $60 to $140, is there a particular one you can reference as the go to?

Glad to see there is an iOS version of the app,

I'm not saying there aren't cheaper ones that MIGHT get the job done, but the co$t of the Obdlink MX+ is representative of its quality, speed, range.....

I have both the MX+ (Bluetooth) and their EX for Forscan (USB)

They are the real deal and their refresh rate is outstanding.

Warning, can be addictive

 

[FrankThompson]

I honestly don't think I was charged for it, but maybe you get the first vehicle that you choose free?

If you get the obdlink mx+ you get one set of extras free. If you just get the obdlink mx (no plus), it's the same features minus the free extra model features.

I bought my obdlink mx a while ago for a different car so just ponied up the $15 for the '22 Ford extra stuff.

 

[Snakebitten]

Thanks Frank
That explains why I didn't remember having an in-app purchase of any kind to get the Ford/Lincoln/Mercury extras

Pretty happy with the way the dashboard is managed and the gauges are very easy to customize almost infinitely

 

[FrankThompson]

They need to let you change the radius of the corners. If you make a graph for across the screen it looks bad, otherwise, i agree.

 

[jflottawa]

their EX for Forscan (USB)

do you know if this adapter also works for FDRS or should I really look at the mongoose?

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