Heated Steering Wheel Retrofit - updated with information

[spiritrider1]

That doesn’t really answer my question though, when forscan asks you to load a profile, make sure you select no (or whatever the command prompt is, it’s been a bit since I’ve used forscan) and make it reload all of your modules

Suddenly the bulb went off. ?So DO NOT pick my truck from the saved list when starting Forscan?
What does it do to mess up the works? I'm seeing the value changes still set the way I saved them.
Does it have something to do with loading the "as built" to the new HVAC?

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[dolsen]

Suddenly the bulb went off. ?So DO NOT pick my truck from the saved list when starting Forscan?
What does it do to mess up the works? I'm seeing the value changes still set the way I saved them.
Does it have something to do with loading the "as built" to the new HVAC?

It absolutely does, if you’ve been loading an old profile your changes don’t get programmed to the modules like it should.

 

[Nicknasty22]

I'm sooooo frustrated! I installed HSW, SCCM, Wire to BCM Pin 15 & grounded to dash chassis, replaced HVAC with Heated/Cooled seats & HSW buttons, and all the Forscan programming to enable the buttons to display, "Unreal" theme to see the climate controls on screen...
But the HSW still doesn't heat even with the button and screen showing it "on". Plus - now my heated seats don't work!! I have an XLT 302A that came with 3 stage heated seats (not cooled).
Is the HVAC I installed not compatible?? I've checked ALL fuses for anything blown, but specifically anything remotely related to the heated seats & wheel: Under the hood # 30, 31, & 38. In the cabin: #13 & 36.
I have not yet looked for power at the SCCM connector but that's my last ditch effort. Is it possible the ground needs to be elsewhere? Do I check for voltage across the two pins or one pin and one to chassis?
It seems most of you guys have Lariat or above. Does anyone have an XLT 302A and can share all the codes you changed? Some of you already shared codes (THANKS!) but again, those appear to be for higher trim levels and I only have heated seats (not cooled). I think it's causing a conflict between my seats/HSW/HVAC and the codes I'm trying are not compatible.

HELP!

Personally, I would reload all the as-built modules and start over.

Use SuperFordman's sig excel sheet as the list of codes you need to change.


I'd use the asbuilt explorer to get your current feature list for each one of those codes from your asbuilt backups. or do it live in FORSCAN.
https://www.compulsivecode.com/Project_AsBuiltCompare.aspx

Find the corresponding code that matches all your features but adds the HSW.

Reload the code changes module by module.

If you're heated seats aren't working I'd guess you used a wrong HVAC module code. Not sure on the compatibility of a loaded module on a lower trim truck but I'd think it would work.

If it all still doesn't work after that, I'd start tracing voltages at various connection points and make sure you're actually getting power from the fuse block all the way to the HSW. I believe the 2 pins to the SCCM connector are power and ground so you should be able to measure voltage across them.

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[tony72cutlass's']

IF i can get this HVAC to work, my original has just the heated seats buttons without HSW or cooled seats. Is that what you are looking for?

yeah exactly man, no rush I got years before I actually get to tackling any project just thought I would throw it out there!

 

[spiritrider1]

Ok. In response to all you fellas that provided comments and help, this is a "Reply to all". Too many to tag!
I FINALLY got the HSW to work. I backed out ALL Forscan changes and reloaded each module codes in efforts to make the "replacement HVAC" (with HSW button and Heated & Cooled seats). It still proved to be in vain. I reinstalled my stock HVAC (with only the 3 stage heated seat buttons) and once I did this my seats began working again, AND the HSW now works!
I am NOT saying the replacement HVAC is not compatible with the XLT 302A. I may still have not set all module parameters correctly. But I did everything everyone suggested and in different orders.
I can only share that if you have an XLT with ONLY heated seats, trying to make an HVAC with heat & cool buttons work may be futile. ?‍
Moving on... I loaded the Superduty climate screen to access the HSW soft button and played with the heat all the way to work - even if it was in the 60's this morning. It doesn't feel as warm as my Mustang's wheel though. I'll have to play with the SCCM temp settings now.

Thanks again for all the responses and help!

 

[spiritrider1]

Well, since I've ascertained my truck does NOT like the HVAC with HSW button, I'm just going to sell it. Everything worked except the HSW & heated & cooled seat buttons lit up, but the seats and wheel wouldn't heat. It was purchased new on E bay. Anyone interested?

 

[astro]

I finally got around to performing the heated steering wheel retrofit on a my23 platinum this weekend. All went well and my goodness the heated steering wheel is so nice.

Thanks to all in this thread who shared information and made the job easy.

A couple of notes & personal opinions:

1. Even with the recent "Performance Upgrade 22G06", I'm still pleased to have done this myself. It forced me to purchase forscan and have a deeper understanding of what I can do with my truck both programming and physical.
2. I much prefer the LED temperature knobs over the on screen hvac temperature indicators. I removed the on screen hvac temperature indicators via forscan and the top bar is now less visually cluttered. I care mostly about time & outside temp and now those are easier to see at a glance. This is my own opinion on this matter and respect others who disagree.
3. Thanks to all who messed up and didn't back up their as-builts first and had to go back. I made sure to backup the as-built first and appreciate the humility sharing the mistake so others don't repeat.
4. I did have the rain-sensing wiper not working properly issue. Setting it on for the guest profile solved it...so thanks for sharing that information in this thread.
5. The steering wheel bolt is a Torx plus size 50. I picked up one local at NAPA. Thank goodness they carried it local as I didn't plan in advance for ordering online. https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHTS38TP50

 

[HammaMan]

I much prefer the LED temperature knobs over the on screen hvac temperature indicators. I removed the on screen hvac temperature indicators via forescan and the top bar is now less visually cluttered. I care mostly about time & outside temp and now those are easier to see at a glance. This is my own opinion on this matter and respect others who disagree.

I think it's funny those who add the climate controls to the screen. Anyone who uses ford's 15.5" screen where it's the only way to access climate would disagree with someone unnecessarily adding them. The 15.5" is a hot mess and leaves much to be desired. As for HVAC temp on-screen, it's redundant with it in the controls of which I've come to prefer, mostly likely due to having to put up with the mach-e's 15.5" screen which I would happily trade for the F150's dash config.

Truck looks good with all of the ambient in-place!

 

[superfordman]

I finally got around to performing the heated steering wheel retrofit on a my23 platinum this weekend. All went well and my goodness the heated steering wheel is so nice.

Good job! Glad to hear.

I think it's funny those who add the climate controls to the screen.

Ya, I didn't think I would be a fan of them at all, but getting use to it now and don't mind it as much as I thought I would, but definitely clutters up the status bar for sure. I turned off the temp repeater and that helped out a good amount, I really don't need to see the temperature on the screen twice while I change it...

I kinda have a suspicion why Ford nixed the dial readouts permanently though, more due to a safety issue, as looking down there to change the temp could be a safety hazard depending how to look at it, as I image some lawyer they have stashed away did exactly that. Having them on the status bar is about half the distance for you eyes to travel to look at it.

 

[HammaMan]

I kinda have a suspicion why Ford nixed the dial readouts permanently though, more due to a safety issue, as looking down there to change the temp could be a safety hazard depending how to look at it, as I image some lawyer they have stashed away did exactly that. Having them on the status bar is about half the distance for you eyes to travel to look at it.

Go test drive a ford with the 15.5" screen and play with climate and what not while android auto is on (particularly the MME where the screen is located lower). Then realize everyone with them have to undergo the same nonsense process to adjust basic things. To turn off a seat heater you must first locate it in the bottom left of the screen and then proceed to push that screen location 3 times. Unlike a button where you can press press press, on a screen you must come off of it and re-index your finger's location. Oh, and it lags so it may read 2 of them, maybe you accidently hit the steering heat instead so you're now hunting for 2 more single presses in different but close locations.

To say it induces an unnecessary amount of unsafe complexity is and understatement. Everything being gated behind a screen is on the cusp of needing legislation to prevent the attention-sink that it is. It's bad, and of course the lags for looking at simple things is annoying as it glitches audio too. The computer behind it is 8 years old and like a turd laptop without proper resources it's glitchy / laggy / slow, and of course everything you'd need to adjust as the driver is in it.

 

[spiritrider1]

I'd rather take a 1/2 second peek at the digits on a physical temperature dial when I rotate it, than need to use multiple touches on a touch screen that I have to focus on for several seconds.

I tried the climate controls on the bottom of the 12" screen. It looks nice, but I don't like having to hit the "Home" button to get back to my other selections. I'd have preferred if it would have added a "Climate" button like on the Sync 3 in my Mustang that I can tap and get a full screen of climate menu which will disappear after using it.

And while I'm on my soap box, why couldn't there be a small HSW soft button on the top bar where the Alexa, WiFi, & time icons are?? I have to exit wide screen to get the climate side screen to get to HSW. Needless to say, I've put it back to stock.

 

[JScaro]

Shameless plug so please forgive me.

Heated steering wheel harness ready to go.
Shipped USPS in the US only - Message me if interested.

 

[Technician117]

Finally made time to install the heated wheel to my truck. I surprised myself by getting everything done without breaking/scratching/damaging any plastic and got it coded correctly the first!

2023 501a Lariat

Installed:
steering wheel
SCCM
HVAC panel

A few interesting notes:
-I did NOT need to add any wiring. My truck was "prewired".
-The wheel I bought came with slightly different buttons than my truck has, so I just swapped the entire trim piece over from my wheel.
-the SCCM I bought came with the controls for power tilt, which my truck doesn't have. Fortunately, this "button" is easily unbolted from the SCCM and does not/did not affect anything else.
-The HVAC panel isn't hard to change but it's a PITA dealing with removing all the trim panels and ensuring you don't scratch anything.
-the Forscan changes were pretty easy. I also changed some other stuff "while in there". First time using the program. Very straight forward!

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

CHeers!

 

[AntimatterJoe]

Well guys, thanks to the harness from @JScaro and his detailed changes and diagram (as well as a few cuss words here and there) I was able to successfully get my heated steering wheel in and functioning! I also got the rain sensing wipers working as well

 

[Micho523]

Wanted to give everyone a heads up on price changes. As of today, 01-Dec-2023, the SCCM ML3Z-3F791-BB is $59 from Tasca, sub $100 everywhere else. Unfortunately the HVAC module WITHOUT lcd screens NL3Z-19980-S has jumped up drastically to $350.

I was checking yesterday and they were $200 and $100 respectively. Wish I would have jumped on the HVAC module then. Guess I'll just add the HSW button to the climate side screen.

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