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I want to start by saying I am not complaining or blaming Cobb or any tuner. For all I know I could be doing something wrong and be the cause of my troubles. I am writing this to document the issues I've been having and hope to find a solution.

Background: I have a 2021 F150 XLT/FX4 3.5L Ecoboost, 6.5' bed, extended range tank. It has an S&B intake and Nitto Recon Grapple 295/70/18 tires on TIS wheels. Nitto lists the tire height on their website as 34.29". I strictly run top-tier 93 octane fuel from Mobil.

I installed my Cobb Accessport tuner on July 8th 2023 with a custom tune. Began the datalogging process and eventually came to final revision. When first driving the truck with the tire height set to 34.3" I noticed my speedometer was pretty far off. Ended up playing with the sizing and landed on 33.2" tire height which made my speedometer match my GPS speed all the way up to 95mph exactly.

Occurence #1: July 11th, while driving the truck, the transmission made a horribly violent aggressive clunk and the whole truck momentarily lost power and rebooted while driving. Check engine light and wrench icon on. I pulled over and read codes P05AE and P061A (Internal Control Module Torque Performance). I cleared the codes and continued on without issue.

Occurence #2: July 23rd, again while driving under normal conditions, truck momentarily lost power, rebooted along with the AP, trans made a horrible violent aggressive bang, and I got code P061B (Internal Control Module Torque Calculation Performance). Cleared code and continued again without issue.

Occurence #3: August 4th, I had just driven over 8 hours from NY to Chicago, and while pulling into the Chicago airport, the same thing happened. This time I specifically remember I was pulling into the departure zone and not even on the gas. The truck again made a horrible violent clunk and got a CEL again. I did not take a picture of the code this time.

Occurence #4: August 19th, again normal driving, same thing, code P061B (Internal Control Module Torque Calculation Performance). I had a passenger in the truck this time and the clunk was so violent, she yelled "OMG Did you just hit something?!?" Pulled over, cleared code and reset ECU, still in limp mode, reflashed tune, decided to try a canned Cobb tune instead of my custom tune to see if it would make any difference.

Occurrence #5: August 26th, I was traveling at 78mph on the highway, had been on the road all day, visited some people, and was heading home at 10pm. Out of nowhere, horrible violent clunk, wrench light and limp mode. Code this time was P161C (no description available) I had to pull over on the side of the highway in the dark. Tried clearing CEL and truck was still in limp mode. Decided to just reflash to factory and reach out to Cobb directly this time.

Occurence #6: Sept 2nd, Just happened again, with the Cobb OTS stage 2 tune on the truck and tire height set to 33.5" per Cobb's instructions. This time though no trouble codes however did get violent trans clunk with momentary loss of power to truck and to tuner, error message on dash said "drive mode not available." Reset to factory flash and awaiting further from Cobb.

Cobb requested a copy of the diagnostic file off the AP which I sent over. They replied that this code is attributed to tire size being slightly off. I find this weird because my speed was consistently perfectly matching my GPS speed (still on the 33.2" setting). And even if that last code is attributed to a tire size issue, it still doesn't explain the rest of the codes. So I called Cobb on the phone and spoke directly with a tech while verifying I was entering the exact tire size they wanted. I parked in a level parking lot, had a level on top of my tire and a tape measure. Rear tire height measured 33.5" and front tires measured 33.25". Being that the truck is rear wheel drive, they wanted me to set the tire height to 33.5". This was yesterday. Driving around today, something just doesnt feel right and I can tell its going to do this again. Part of me is dreading it because its so violent, I'm sure it will eventually cause some damage to something, but at the same time I want it to happen again so I can try to capture it in a datalog and get to the bottom of the issue.

Does anybody have any advice/input/suggestions, anything to help at all???

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Just happened again, with the Cobb OTS stage 2 tune on the truck and tire height set to 33.5" per Cobb's instructions. This time though no trouble codes however did get violent trans clunk with momentary loss of power to truck and to tuner, error message on dash said "drive mode not available." Reset to factory flash and awaiting further from Cobb. Ordered a Forscan module today
 

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PCM P161C:00

Description: Automatic Engine Shutdown Mismatch with Vehicle Configuration: No Sub Type Information

Fault Trigger Condition:

Sets when the IPC detects a mismatch in configuration data and programmable parameters between the PCM and the IPC. Reprogram or update the calibration. If the PCM already has the latest calibration, carry out the relearn vehicle data procedure on the scan tool. Check for other Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) or drive symptoms for further action. Check for aftermarket performance products. If it is necessary to install a new PCM, refer to Flash EEPROM, Programming the VID Block for a replacement PCM.


PCM P061A:00

Description: Internal Control Module Torque Performance: No Sub Type Information

Fault Trigger Condition:

Sets when the PCM detects an internal calculation error. The presence of this DTC may indicate that the vehicle is operating in failure mode and may experience a loss of power. Check for sensor and circuit related Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs). Do not install a new electronic throttle body for this DTC.

PCM P061B:00

Description: Internal Control Module Torque Calculation Performance: No Sub Type Information

Fault Trigger Condition:

Sets when the PCM detects an internal calculation error. The presence of this DTC may indicate that the vehicle is operating in failure mode and may experience a loss of power. Check for sensor and circuit related Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs). Do not install a new electronic throttle body for this DTC.

PCM P05AE:00

Description: Active Grille Air Shutter "B" Performance/Stuck Off: No Sub Type Information

Fault Trigger Condition:

When the lower active grille shutter actuator senses it is unable to move the active grille shutter, it sends a message to the PCM via the LIN. The PCM sets this DTC when the fault is communicated for a predetermined amount of time.
 

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Have you sent these problems to the tuner?? I had almost the same.. Mine was tire size and been running great now.. I have a Goose Tune and Cobb was great with technical
 
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Have you sent these problems to the tuner?? I had almost the same.. Mine was tire size and been running great now.. I have a Goose Tune and Cobb was great with technical
Yeah Cobb and goose have been great. But I even changed tire size in forscan and it was still doing the engine off/clunk. So Cobb sent me a test file with pedal control and “some other custom features” disabled and it hasn’t done it yet. So idk…

what exactly did you change? I’m assuming by changing tire size in forscan, I would leave everything alone on the Cobb as far as tire size adjustment? Because I wouldn’t want it to double-adjust for a larger tire. Or does the Cobb size have to actually match the tire size!??
 
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Still hasn't happened again on the Cobb test tune I've been running for several weeks now. I've heard that I'm not the only person that's been experiencing this issue, Cobb is well aware of it, and apparently it is due to some of the options such as dynamic pedal control and/or adjust tire size. Cobb is working on a firmware update that should fix the issue across all tunes, including my custom goose tunes
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