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I am trying to figure out a vibration, or what feels like a vibration in my 2023 F150 2.7 4x4 crew cab 5.5 box, 3.55 rear end. I have been reading the transmission threads for over 3 weeks now I don't think what I am about to describe is transmission related but understand I am not a mechanic. One other thing is that I had the rear blocks (they were square not tapered) removed by the dealer prior to taking delivery. I did not notice any vibrations when I test drove the truck nor did I recall feeling anything for about the first 1000 kms but I didn't use the M mode either. My truck now has 2800 km's (1740 miles) on it. I have two sets of factory rims/tires for my truck, 18s and 20s and I don't believe I have a tire issue since the truck is very smooth up to it's speed limiter. Anyways...

I will do my best to be concise in the description of the problem which I discovered while playing with the "M" manual mode. In 3rd gear at approximately 2800-3000 RPM under heavy to full throttle the truck obviously accelerates and does so very well but in and around 3800-4200 RPM I "sometimes" get a slight shake - it's hard to describe, sometimes I think it's slightly audible and I can always feel it ever so slightly. It is similar to the tires scrambling for traction but I don't believe that is it. Under low to moderate pedal pressure this thing is pure butter - zero complaints.

I have felt this when the transmission downshifts but it is harder to replicate because speed and pedal pressure need to be precise so that the correct RPMs are hit. I can duplicate this rumble sensation (sort of like hitting a rumble strip but much milder) in 4th 5th and 6th with what I would describe as diminishing results. 7th it will do but it is barely noticeable. I have not been able to duplicate the sensation in any of the other gears, higher or lower. If I floor it from a standstill it obviously winds through first gear and then shifts but the RPMs do not fall back very far ( I can't recall but they may fall to 4500-5000) and therefore there is no rumble. It seemingly stays above the normal rumble point of about 4200 rpm. I count myself as lucky because my shifting at full throttle is very quick, very smooth, and overall just fantastic.

It is only under very specific circumstances that I can duplicate the rumble like sensation. I have only run 91 octane. I don't hammer it until it's nice and warm.

Things I ponder: driveshaft improperly balanced. Pinion angle off due to rear block removal which would require shims. Maybe the combustion chamber does not like full throttle at those RPMs under that type of load (therefore possible "normal"). I have had numerous automatic and manual transmission vehicles over the years and I know what lugging is. This resembles that very slightly and maybe that is what is actually happening. I have a 100lb stall mat in my bed (don't think this has anything to do with it). As well I thought maybe a bad plug or coil but I think I would be experiencing issues most of the time, correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe if I had a bad driveshaft I would feel this in every gear and would feel it most, if not all, of the time. If I had unbalanced tires then I would feel this at most highway speeds from 40mph all the way to 100mph but I don't. I don't have any other akward sounds or shimmies or vibrations, it's very specific.

I will hook a trailer to it next week to see if this is exacerbated under load as I have not done this yet. I tow a 4000lb boat and 1500lbs of gear/kids during the summer. I have not been to the dealer, that will unfortunately be my next move to see if this might be a programming issue.

Wondering if anyone has any knowleadge regarding this or maybe has felt something similar?

Thanks for listening.
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I'm inclined to say harmonic resonance. Factory pinion angle is set about negative 2 degrees so the pinion is slightly below the trans angle. Does it happen at other gears under load at similar rpms? I think I may have gone over 3k rpms like once ever lol.
 
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I'm inclined to say harmonic resonance. Factory pinion angle is set about negative 2 degrees so the pinion is slightly below the trans angle. Does it happen at other gears under load at similar rpms? I think I may have gone over 3k rpms like once ever lol.
I can duplicate this rumble sensation (sort of like hitting a rumble strip but much milder) in 4th 5th and 6th with what I would describe as diminishing results. 7th it will do but it is barely noticeable. I have not been able to duplicate the sensation in any of the other gears, higher or lower.

I just started my first oil change (I like doing a couple early ones) and noticed the flimsy diaper. I'm going to remove it while I'm underneath and see if it may be flapping around enough to cause a slight rumble sound and vibration. I realize it's a looooong shot but it's free .

I do agree with your comments. Thanks
 

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I can duplicate this rumble sensation (sort of like hitting a rumble strip but much milder) in 4th 5th and 6th with what I would describe as diminishing results. 7th it will do but it is barely noticeable. I have not been able to duplicate the sensation in any of the other gears, higher or lower.

I just started my first oil change (I like doing a couple early ones) and noticed the flimsy diaper. I'm going to remove it while I'm underneath and see if it may be flapping around enough to cause a slight rumble sound and vibration. I realize it's a looooong shot but it's free .

I do agree with your comments. Thanks
For reference, I seem to have a roughly similar issue where I get an oscillating vibration in any gear between 50-60mph. I think mine is driveline. Yours is starting to sound like driveline too if it isn't gear dependent.
 
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I have my old SCT tuner from my last truck. Would it be a bad idea to plug into the OBD port? Would this be traced by Ford? I don't want them to point their finger at me if/when I bring it in for this vibration saying I used an unauthorized scanner blah blah ...
 

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So a little update. I was able to pull a 2000lb enclosed trailer about an hour ago on some secondary highways. The trailer is a square nose, stands very tall as my 6'5" friend can stand in it with room to spare. I varied my speed and rate of acceleration several times between 0-80 mph. I used "tow mode". Unfortunately my vibration worsens when towing this light load. I would describe it as a night and day difference from loaded to unloaded and if I had to assign a value I would say at least 50% worse. Under medium to high acceleration the vibration took place as high as 5k RPM. So it was happening around 3-4k RPM, then seemed to go away, and then come back for just a moment around 5k RPM. I stayed mainly in tow mode but did use the "M" manual mode to try specific gears, no change in the vibration. Very odd, it would be better if it was constant from a diagnostics standpoint.

I'm curious if this could be a bad plug (cracked, non functioning), a plug that is lose, a plug that is not gapped properly? Maybe a bad COP?

I will have to book an appointment unfortunately.
 
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Was able to duplicate my issue with the service advisor in the passenger seat. He stated it was minor, I didn't want to get into it with him, good guy, glad that he came for a ride and listened. Truck goes in for a couple of days the week after next. Hoping they will at least check the plugs/gap/cop's. Apparently my truck has the latest software. He didn't have any idea where to start unfortunately.
 
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Truck was at the dealer all day Thursday, got a call this morning to pick it up. Advisor said the sensation I am feeling is the wastegate opening and closing to relieve the boost. I drove another 2.7 in a 2024 STX from the same dealer and there was a hint of it during the test drive. Took a buddy (fellow enthusiast) for a rip in my truck and he didn't think anything of it. I'd put mods on hold thinking if this was the start of something larger I would trade my truck in but I am going to hang on. Hunting a 4 pack of coil overs next, leaning on the Eibachs!
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